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Iranian Drones Could Have 'Significant Impact' On Russia-Ukraine War (MSNBC) (Original Post) ItsjustMe Aug 2022 OP
I read on a Ukraine expat site that I lurk in, that the Russians have been going after the HIMARS Bev54 Aug 2022 #1
Iran drones have been glitchy Warpy Aug 2022 #2
they are copies of us drones captured or shot down..... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #3
They can't duplicate a lot of the micro circuitry Warpy Aug 2022 #4
and even if it is.... a manpad will take it out before it does anything getagrip_already Aug 2022 #5

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
1. I read on a Ukraine expat site that I lurk in, that the Russians have been going after the HIMARS
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 04:39 PM
Aug 2022

but Ukraine has built a number of decoys out of wood and the Russians have been blowing them up. I have not confirmed that yet in a News source.

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
2. Iran drones have been glitchy
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 04:54 PM
Aug 2022
https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/russia-running-into-technical-problems-with-iran-made-drones-says-us-122083000108_1.html
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I have to wonder if they're any better than the Russian drones, kludged together with off the shelf camera, video, and optics.

I also wonder how high they fly and whether or not they can carry a payload. My guesses say "not very" and "nope."

I'm not surprised by this, Russia has lost a lot of theirs and can't get the electronics products to make more of them.

Making wooden HIMARS mockups sounds exactly like the sort of thing the Ukrainians would do. If my suspicions about the Iraninan drones are correct, the mockups will continue to fool them.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
3. they are copies of us drones captured or shot down.....
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:34 PM
Aug 2022

So yes, they can carry a payload. They aren't small retail quad copters that have been hacked to drop mortor shells or grenades

These are military grade systems.

But, they are not himar. They can be seen and fired at. They can be jammed by EW.

They will cause destruction, but the russians target civilian areas, not military. So they will give rus a capability they lack, but not in numbers or strength enough to make a real difference. Especially because they will be flown by russians...

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
4. They can't duplicate a lot of the micro circuitry
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 06:51 PM
Aug 2022

and they can't duplicate the optics. Plus, as the article said, they're glitchy.

I'm not saying they're useless, they're going to be as useful as the Russian made drones that have been shot down or have worn out and that Russia can't rebuild. However, that HIMARS they spot 3 miles ahead and a kilometer down will most likely not be the real thing.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
5. and even if it is.... a manpad will take it out before it does anything
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:19 PM
Aug 2022

My guess is that ukr operates the himars trucks outside of russian tube artillery range, so rus will have to rely on drones or other aircraft.

It won't up their chances for those targets.

It may help them harass troops on the ground, or regular artillery, but not the remote mobile systems.

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