Men Flee Russia To Avoid Being Drafted Into Putin's War On Ukraine - Alex Wagner - MSNBC

[Rhiannon12866]

Alex Wagner reports on the exodus from Russia to escape Vladimir Putin's "mobilization" to boost troop levels in his invasion of Ukraine, while territories Putin hopes to annex conduct fake votes on becoming part of Russia. - Aired on 09/23/2022.

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. Russia's Viet Nam moment?

A commitment too much to Putin? I'm thinking the world's richest man is not going to enjoy it Too bad, maybe if he had transferred a few hundred billion USD's back to State Reserves in order to finance a proper war......oh well. Turns out he's as stupid as Trump is.

[Rhiannon12866]

3. He's got to be pretty desperate by now, losing his war badly and now facing this exodus

He's losing control of everything. State-TV is no longer convincing the people of his propaganda.

[twodogsbarking]

6. Project 100,000, also known as McNamara's 100,000, McNamara's Folly, McNamara's Morons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_100,000

[KS Toronado]

2. From $300 to $8,730

They must be adopting our capitalist policies of supply & demand.
Let's pray we don't adopt how they vote, at the point of a gun.

[OAITW r.2.0]

4. Total fucking delusional desperation by Putin.

Call up 300,000 draftees? How? Pay for their tactical gear, how? What weapons? Feed them....how? Integrate them into your current fighting forces....how?

[NCjack]

7. No barracks, trainers, winter kits for them. Just send them directly to Ukraine to be slaughtered.

[Lovie777]

5. At the beginning of Russia's unprovoked attack on Ukraine .....

Georgia, whose another country in the region that has no love for Russia took in approximately 40 thousand Russian refugees and now this.

Overall, the region hates Russia.

[Kyesha]

8. It's always the poor people first

I couldn't help noticing the videos of crying mothers and children saying farewell to their 40-year-old cab driving fathers were all shot in Chuvashia, Yakutia, and Tuva Republic, all places where a $2,000 ticket to Turkey is three months income. Sending one country's poor to fight pointless wars seems to be the MO of crumbling empires worldwide.

[Rhiannon12866]

10. Agreed, heartbreaking.

But Putin is desperate. And sending sons, husbands and fathers to became cannon fodder will not change the trajectory of his unprovoked and lost war.

[Kyesha]

9. What does the average Russian think?

It really depends. You think a Russian will blast Putin during a TV interview? He won't post anything on Facebook, either, because the FSB has been known to check in. I know people who have lost their jobs because they like or unlike a post. So publicly voicing your opinion leads to consequences, and it's not like they can pick up and move to LA to start a new life. Even your best friend could change his mind on things depending on company. I remember my Russian roommate talking about Stalin one day and he said the country needs a strong man like him (this was during the Yeltsin years). The next day he wondered why so many people long for a brutal dictator like Stalin.
So it's hard to get a read on people.

[Rhiannon12866]

11. Of course they can't, thousands have been arrested for less - for simply protesting.

As for "Facebook," or whatever it's called now, they don't have the advantage of the Cambridge Analytica or whistleblower news like we have here, confirming that it's a dangerous place to be - serving only as a moneymaker for its founder. And, as you said, it's gotten to the point that they can't trust anybody, reverting to the days of Stalin.