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Florida Man, Son Chase After 'Burglar' Who Was Returning Mis Delivered Package: Sheriff (Original Post) ruet Oct 2022 OP
My next door neighbor had an a'hole boyfriend staying there who threatened me through RING doorbell hlthe2b Oct 2022 #1
Too many damn guns in the hands of uninformed people. Deuxcents Oct 2022 #2
Agree and certainly with the paranonia --these available guns makes it extra dangerous. After riversedge Oct 2022 #3
I wonder if this sheriff would have held Bubba's and his accomplices' pictures cyndensco Oct 2022 #4
This sheriff is a wanna-be celebrity who never misses a chance to get on camera. Timeflyer Oct 2022 #5
I am curious. How was it racist? Was the sheriff racist. ?? Did I miss something?? .. riversedge Oct 2022 #7
Me, too. Deuxcents Oct 2022 #9
I focused immediately on the pictures and realized cyndensco Oct 2022 #13
Really? What race would that be? Warpy Oct 2022 #12
Actually, my first thought was "what did DeSantis do now?" plimsoll Oct 2022 #6
My husband has always conscientiously delivered misdirected mail and packages to neighbors Hekate Oct 2022 #8
We live in interesting times. A little too interesting. And fire arms play a part in too much of it. marble falls Oct 2022 #10
One hopes that felony attempted murder convictions Warpy Oct 2022 #11
"In Florida we have this wonderful Castle Doctrine Stand Your Ground law" (5:58), yeh-right. Tell 2live is 2fly Oct 2022 #14
Its easier to post the story than to list to 10 minutes of this guy Historic NY Oct 2022 #15
I think all three ( Sheriff and the two Giancolas) are crazy.. They are all nuts.. n/t TeamProg Oct 2022 #16
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Oct 2022 #17
Just the Chaos that comes with 400 Million Firearms in the United States. MagaSmash Oct 2022 #18

hlthe2b

(102,320 posts)
1. My next door neighbor had an a'hole boyfriend staying there who threatened me through RING doorbell
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 06:29 PM
Oct 2022

camera when I brought over a misdirected package. He told me he was armed and prepared to shoot even after I told him through the speaker what I was doing. My neighbor who I do like (but still under his spell, I guess) begged me not to report it. I told her I would only agree to ask the police not to act on it but to keep the report for six months, which my local police agreed to do.

I do not know what is wrong with people today but had that a'hole next door come out the door brandishing his gun, I would have done everything possible to see him face maximum consequences.

riversedge

(70,264 posts)
3. Agree and certainly with the paranonia --these available guns makes it extra dangerous. After
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 06:47 PM
Oct 2022

reading about these two instances I am not going to be delivering any mis-directed packages. Nope. I will put a note on it for the mailman to take the next day. Too damn many guns!!

cyndensco

(1,697 posts)
4. I wonder if this sheriff would have held Bubba's and his accomplices' pictures
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 07:02 PM
Oct 2022

during the entirety of an Armaud Arbery news conference.

The crime of course is senseless and the criminals must be punished. The news conference, as folksy as it was, felt VERY racist to me.

riversedge

(70,264 posts)
7. I am curious. How was it racist? Was the sheriff racist. ?? Did I miss something?? ..
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 07:20 PM
Oct 2022

I really want to know. I did listen to all of the video.

Deuxcents

(16,287 posts)
9. Me, too.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 07:49 PM
Oct 2022

I didn’t find it racist. I did find it a little too unprofessional.
The 15 year old was armed n not legally allowed to have a gun... these kids and their infatuation w/ firearms..even when the parents allow it...which, imo is nutz.

cyndensco

(1,697 posts)
13. I focused immediately on the pictures and realized
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 08:32 PM
Oct 2022

I had never seen a sheriff hold a picture as long as he held those. Further, if the perpetrators had looked like the bubbas that shot Armaud Arbery - white men - in my mind he would not have been as eager to show them.

I thought his delivery was cringe-worthy and it felt racist to me. My perception.

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
12. Really? What race would that be?
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 08:16 PM
Oct 2022

Last I heard, "violent dumbass" wasn't a race and certainly isn't addressed by any special protections.

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
6. Actually, my first thought was "what did DeSantis do now?"
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 07:19 PM
Oct 2022

My second thought was, "DeSantis has kids?" Then I looked at the picture.

marble falls

(57,136 posts)
10. We live in interesting times. A little too interesting. And fire arms play a part in too much of it.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 08:05 PM
Oct 2022

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
11. One hopes that felony attempted murder convictions
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 08:13 PM
Oct 2022

will keep both those brain trust bozos from ever owning any kind of a gun again, as long as they live.

Yeah, I know, it's way too much to ask of this gun addled country.

2live is 2fly

(336 posts)
14. "In Florida we have this wonderful Castle Doctrine Stand Your Ground law" (5:58), yeh-right. Tell
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 08:39 PM
Oct 2022

it to Treyvon Martin there Sheriff Peckerwood! WTF ever happened to Treyvons rights, his legal right to "Stand His Ground???" When you think about it, there's a huge difference between the concept of a Castle Doctrine and a Stand Your Ground law. With the one, you're defending your home, maybe your half asleep in a T-shirt & underwear or hung-over or whatever with the family sleeping close by to protect. It also covers (as it should), temporary home, like a hotel/motel room, a camper or other temporary home. But the other one, the Stand-Your-Ground law is (IMO) mostly bullshit. The law is too open for [mis]interpretation, especially after several cocktails.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
17. People Control, Not Gun Control
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 09:15 PM
Oct 2022

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

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