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"Working People Everywhere Have Had It": SEIU Pres. Mary Kay Henry on Unions Mobilizing for Midterms (Original Post) Uncle Joe Nov 2022 OP
I hope to high heaven SEIU has been working to GOTV in OHIO. Ohio has been written off by Ninga Nov 2022 #1
"Ryan hasn't received $$ from DC" BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #2
I get it.Ryan has said Nancy Pelosi told him just "win" - even if he distances himself from her. In Ninga Nov 2022 #3
It's an issue when attempting to "run as an outsider" BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #4
Thank you for taking your time to help me understand. To be able to finesse enough to win may Ninga Nov 2022 #5
I've had union jobs and non union jobs Warpy Nov 2022 #6

Ninga

(9,026 posts)
1. I hope to high heaven SEIU has been working to GOTV in OHIO. Ohio has been written off by
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:08 AM
Nov 2022

DC. We aren’t getting high profile surrogates to pump up voters, Ryan hasn’t received $$ from DC, and as well an outstanding gubernatorial candidate, Nan Whaley.

BumRushDaShow

(171,432 posts)
2. "Ryan hasn't received $$ from DC"
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:51 AM
Nov 2022

Perhaps because he seemed to have written off the party and has been distancing himself to get a more "indie" vote share as well as aligning to the Manchin wing.

I have been getting continual DNC solicitations for Senate races outside of my own here in PA, including Ryan's, Demmings', and Beasley's - and more recently Cortez-Masto's, so it's not like they are completely avoiding them.

Ninga

(9,026 posts)
3. I get it.Ryan has said Nancy Pelosi told him just "win" - even if he distances himself from her. In
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:12 PM
Nov 2022

my mind I’m ok if she’s ok, it what I am not ok with is him being written off by DC party money.

BumRushDaShow

(171,432 posts)
4. It's an issue when attempting to "run as an outsider"
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:28 PM
Nov 2022

although in his case, he is currently a Congressman, so not really one. And in a more recent case, he essentially threw Biden under the bus as well.

I had figured that given his stature there, he probably had one of the best chances to get that seat - particularly due to his name recognition. But then if one does what many did in 2010, who chose to "run away from Obama" due to the (faux) "unpopularity" of the ACA, then that apparently doesn't sit well with some of the more machine-types in the party.

I.e., you can't publicly and very vocally bat down your own party's platform and de facto head, and then have your hand out asking for $$. And if you do want to appear "independent" but still be considered part of a valid wing of the party, there are ways to do it (like how Fetterman has done it) that doesn't trash or undermine the party's platform and leadership.

In this very partisan atmosphere, it is very very difficult to be a "moderate" at this point.

Ninga

(9,026 posts)
5. Thank you for taking your time to help me understand. To be able to finesse enough to win may
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:33 PM
Nov 2022

be a double edged sword.

Warpy

(114,650 posts)
6. I've had union jobs and non union jobs
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:49 PM
Nov 2022

and union jobs were always better, even shitty jobs with shitty unions. Crummy bosses that made shitty jobs so shitty had to keep their bad behavior under control when they knew they'd have the whole union breathing down their necks if they didn't.

It's a matter of respect.

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