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(204,325 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 04:45 AM Jan 2023

Former top FBI counterintelligence agent arrested - The 11th Hour - MSNBC

Retired top FBI agent Charles McGonigal was arrested for alleged money laundering and violating Russian sanctions. Frank Figliuzzi and Barbara McQuade tells us what it means for the agency and our national security. - Aired on 01/23/2023.

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Former top FBI counterintelligence agent arrested - The 11th Hour - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 OP
For 4 years we have had True Blue American Jan 2023 #1
I have no doubt that TFG's administration was corrupt from the top down Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #2
I am also sure there have been many placed in our FBI and JUSTICE DEPARTMENT True Blue American Jan 2023 #3
And don't forget about Jeff Sessions. The Civil Rights Division suffered under him. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #4
Yes! True Blue American Jan 2023 #8
I watched a Traildogbob Jan 2023 #5
Name was Robert Hanssen Traildogbob Jan 2023 #6
Fascinating movie but chilling. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #11
Every point is spot on. Traildogbob Jan 2023 #12
The problem was not with the original vetting. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #13
Thank you for your insightful info Traildogbob Jan 2023 #14
YW Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #15
All he needs to round out his persona mysteryowl Jan 2023 #7
The NYT and the NY City office of the FBI helped TFG win in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #9
Marci Wheeler says the timing is not quite right waddirum Jan 2023 #10

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
1. For 4 years we have had
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:39 AM
Jan 2023

Corruption from the top of our Government, including the 3 Lindsey Graham forced through the Supreme Court. They were already corrupt, loyal to the Federalist Society.

Why would anyone be surprised the grift flowed down like mud after a landslide.

Monkey see, monkey do.


(204,325 posts)
2. I have no doubt that TFG's administration was corrupt from the top down
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:44 AM
Jan 2023

And in many cases this inexperienced and uninterested POTUS left those that didn't personally concern him completely on their own to do whatever they wanted to.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
3. I am also sure there have been many placed in our FBI and JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 07:52 AM
Jan 2023

That are corrupt. He had that with JEdgar Hoover., HWBush. He did Reagan’s dirty work in Iran.

But, at least some are being exposed now with Bill Barr gone. Our Justice Department was a joke under him.


(204,325 posts)
4. And don't forget about Jeff Sessions. The Civil Rights Division suffered under him.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 07:59 AM
Jan 2023

I read about that in Mary Trump's book. Both DOJ and State saw a lot of resignations and few applications under TFG. And Jeff Sessions was a known segregationist, was once rejected for a federal judgeship for exactly that reason.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
8. Yes!
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 11:23 AM
Jan 2023

This arrest is going to show the connection Trump, the FBI, retired Generals and Russia shared. Trump has been hip deep in Russian money laundering most of his life. Probably when he was married to Ivana who made a good share of hhis fortune that is now dribbling away.


(8,670 posts)
5. I watched a
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 09:45 AM
Jan 2023

Documentary movie last week, sorry I forgot the title, an out a 20 plus year high level FBI agent in counter Intel. He was around 2001. I think his name was Hasson. The agency did an inside sting with a new super star agent and caught him selling top secret info. He is currently in prison, 23 hour a day isolation for life. Trump et al need the same. Fuck that can’t charge Presidents or congress. Fill GITMO with these terrorist. And tax the hell out of billionaires to pay for the upkeep. Most are in it as well.


(8,670 posts)
6. Name was Robert Hanssen
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 10:05 AM
Jan 2023

Arrested 2001, Convicted in May 2002. Millions in cash, Bank funds and diamonds. And who was he selling to………wait for it…….Russia. The movie “Breach”.


(46,308 posts)
11. Fascinating movie but chilling.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 08:01 PM
Jan 2023

Hanssen is sitting in a Supermax prison, yes solitary confinement for most of the day.
He sold thousands of classified docs to the Russians.

He was responsible for the deaths of many CIA agents and the extent of the damage he did is not known
to this day.

To avoid the death penalty he confessed to espionage and will spend his life in prison.


(8,670 posts)
12. Every point is spot on.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 09:11 PM
Jan 2023

You would think 21 years ago they may have developed a much better way of vetting agents. And kept a close eye out for the exact. If trump got life in fed prison, 23 hits solitary a day, I may consider justice was served.


(46,308 posts)
13. The problem was not with the original vetting.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 09:24 PM
Jan 2023

They probably passed with flying colors at time of hire.

It is down the road where there were not as many checks and balances as needed.

It is later on when these guys get angry, jaded, seduced, whatever.
And have access to more sensitive information because of their seniority.

Today the FBI does much more in terms of continual financial examination for all agents.
Many more safeguards were put into place after Hanssen.

I also assume that the FBI has had psych profilers do more work in identifying
potential spies. Maybe there is a psych profile they know correlates with
selling out your country. And being easily bribed.

I seriously doubt Trump will go to prison. I think house arrest is the best we can hope for.
And I am not even sure about that.

I assume Trump would negotiate some sort of deal. He agrees not to run for office.
And give up some of his social media. In return no trial.


(8,670 posts)
14. Thank you for your insightful info
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 10:10 PM
Jan 2023

I agree, there will be no real justice. Flynn et al walk freely still.


(46,308 posts)
15. YW
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 10:25 PM
Jan 2023

I just don't see the DOJ having the stomach to put an almost 80 yr old ex POTUS in prison.
And it would be a security nightmare with SS and prison guards.
No one wants a blue on blue clash.

Heck maybe Trump refuses to negotiate about the classified docs, and that is why the
FBI is all of a sudden searching the basements of current and ex leaders. Documents all
over the place. Maybe to take the pressure off of DOJ.
Timing is fishy.

We shall see, time will tell.

Maybe some of the other guys will go to jail.
Flynn is a particular disgrace and dangerous. He needs to go prison.


(144,775 posts)
9. The NYT and the NY City office of the FBI helped TFG win in 2016
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:03 PM
Jan 2023

I was at a law firm doing a video conference for voter protection when this announcement was made. I had an associate with me who was getting some CLE for this training and I saw that he was upset during the course. On the way back to the office, I was told about Comey announcing the reopening of the Clinton email investigation. That reopening with the NYT article that the FBI found no connection between Russia and TFG were the final nails.

The NYT is not a real news organization and the NYC office of the FBI was full of Clinton haters some of whom were working directly for Russia

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