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TexasTowelie

(127,436 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 12:55 PM Feb 2023

Pence plans to resist special counsel subpoena in Jan. 6 probe - MSNBC Reports



Former Vice President Mike Pence and his legal team are planning to resist a special counsel subpoena for the Justice Department's investigation into former President Trump's role in the January 6 Capitol riot. NBC's Garrett Haake reports from Capitol Hill.

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Pence plans to resist special counsel subpoena in Jan. 6 probe - MSNBC Reports (Original Post) TexasTowelie Feb 2023 OP
Wants to run for President of the USA but refuses to honor a subpoena? I say no to you, sir! Lettuce Be Feb 2023 #1
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Wondering if Smith has to let Pence use the courts. Hope it's within his power to beat this faster ancianita Feb 2023 #6
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Fine. I'm still thinking he can knock this down by March, get Pence's grand jury testimony, then ancianita Feb 2023 #8
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Haven't you noticed the courts are fed up with being used? That one or more judges have called ancianita Feb 2023 #10
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Who are the parties that could be subject to injunctions? ancianita Feb 2023 #12
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Absolutely! Trump wiped his shoes on Pence. He assumed Pence was too weak housecat Feb 2023 #14
I think that's why Pence called Dan Quayle.. agingdem Feb 2023 #17
Immediate disqualification from ever running for office again. Under what grounds? onecaliberal Feb 2023 #3
Not even intimidated by a hangman's scaffold! madashelltoo Feb 2023 #4
What have you got to hide, pence ? republianmushroom Feb 2023 #5
Everything. He's enabled crimes all along housecat Feb 2023 #15
Yep republianmushroom Feb 2023 #16
Religious FREAK (not a normal religious person) running our country? bluestarone Feb 2023 #18
You can put Pompeo in the same category of religious freakos. The prospect justhanginon Feb 2023 #19

Lettuce Be

(2,355 posts)
1. Wants to run for President of the USA but refuses to honor a subpoena? I say no to you, sir!
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:00 PM
Feb 2023

What an ass

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ancianita

(43,308 posts)
6. Wondering if Smith has to let Pence use the courts. Hope it's within his power to beat this faster
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:23 PM
Feb 2023

than the Garland DOJ and Jan 6 Committee could.

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ancianita

(43,308 posts)
8. Fine. I'm still thinking he can knock this down by March, get Pence's grand jury testimony, then
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:47 PM
Feb 2023

proceed with indictments by summer, more than six months before next February's first primary. Which will then not stop the courts.

No election season can stop courts once the indictments are made. Campaign season has only been a norm for stopping investigations over issues of a conflict of interest.

Not this time. Not after the perfect "due process" the DOJ has afforded all plaintiffs to-date.

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ancianita

(43,308 posts)
10. Haven't you noticed the courts are fed up with being used? That one or more judges have called
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:04 PM
Feb 2023

Trump a vexatious litigant? It's not "largesse." It just seems like wealth shouldn't be able to buy so much damned "due process" because judges don't want trial rulings appealed.

Pence testimony will be done by end of March. The cases are almost built. Then it will all hinge on Garland. Who won't overturn his own Special Counsel pick after all the work that's been done. Smith's indictments could be before June, and pre-trial motions could take another month. Juries will be empaneled by September and full on trials by fall.







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ancianita

(43,308 posts)
12. Who are the parties that could be subject to injunctions?
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:25 PM
Feb 2023

We shouldn't have to suffer the pace of rule of law, in one sense. In the other, we are obliged to respect courts' "due process." I can't disagree that we have a national security issue, but that's on the FBI, not the courts.

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housecat

(3,138 posts)
14. Absolutely! Trump wiped his shoes on Pence. He assumed Pence was too weak
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:08 PM
Feb 2023

and too deep in the same shit to fold. They are both trying to protect themselves and each other

agingdem

(8,871 posts)
17. I think that's why Pence called Dan Quayle..
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:45 PM
Feb 2023

he was looking for any avenue to please his master but Quayle told me no.....Pence's outside counsel was so nervous Pence was going to cave to Trump he called Michael Luttig asking him for help...

Pence is no hero and I suspect if he complies with the subpoena and tells the real truth, the "Pence saved democracy" myth pretty much goes down the toilet.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
3. Immediate disqualification from ever running for office again. Under what grounds?
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:06 PM
Feb 2023

Telling the truth about pisswig will make people want to kill him, oh wait…

madashelltoo

(1,830 posts)
4. Not even intimidated by a hangman's scaffold!
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:07 PM
Feb 2023

How driven to power do you have to be to blow off a murderous mob directed by your president? Really? He should have been the first one standing on DOJ steps demanding King Magat be prosecuted. Alienating nut jobs should not have any leverage in the issue.

republianmushroom

(22,345 posts)
5. What have you got to hide, pence ?
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:14 PM
Feb 2023

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Heck, pence you can always declare the 5th amendment .

bluestarone

(22,225 posts)
18. Religious FREAK (not a normal religious person) running our country?
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 06:11 PM
Feb 2023

I hope the fuck not! Boy do i hope the fuck NOT!

justhanginon

(3,381 posts)
19. You can put Pompeo in the same category of religious freakos. The prospect
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 06:38 PM
Feb 2023

of any of these whack jobs running the country makes me shudder in both fear and disgust.

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