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WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:33 PM Mar 2023

BOMBSHELL: Reagan Committed Treason To Rig Election Against Carter - The Kyle Kulinski Show

Last edited Wed Mar 22, 2023, 10:23 AM - Edit history (1)



The actual "bombshell" here is that someone with first hand knowledge has finally admitted that what we've known for 35 years is all true.
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Irish_Dem

(81,780 posts)
2. Just amazing that the press is pretending this is new information.
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:42 PM
Mar 2023

It was well known at the time.
No one cared except a few of us.

Deuxcents

(27,244 posts)
4. The media should had been doing their job instead of googling over him
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:46 PM
Mar 2023

A few did but maybe didn’t have the support from their editors/bosses.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,331 posts)
3. Not news to me.
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:43 PM
Mar 2023

That's why I've always been a Democrat. Democrats have never sold out this country to gain political office, AFAIK.

RockRaven

(19,537 posts)
5. Decades old information counts as a "bombshell" if you are a Youtuber...
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:49 PM
Mar 2023

Sounds like a good reason not to be one.

Deuxcents

(27,244 posts)
7. Maybe a good thing can come out of this bombshell report..
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:04 AM
Mar 2023

Those younger than us that weren’t here for those 8 miserable years will learn about this. Pretty sure they’ve not heard of it in their history classes

William Gustafson

(553 posts)
12. not if they are in a republican state...
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:18 AM
Mar 2023

They won't teach anything negative against Saint Ronnie... Hell, they won't even teach true history.

JT45242

(4,061 posts)
10. Not a bombshell, known in 1987
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 01:31 AM
Mar 2023

We knew in 1987;that Baker and other members of the inner circle met with Iranian officials and gave them literally millions of dollars to hold onto the hostages.

Democratic congressional leaders made the miscalculation to not impeach him for treason because he was a lame duck.

That this asshat is finally fessing up to his part in the scheme is news, but the deal with the Iranian leaders is 35 years old news.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
11. This just in: Generalissimo Ronnie Raygun Reagan...is still dead.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:07 AM
Mar 2023

(pretty sure it's only treason *after* someone has been found guilty?)

I still loathe him, though. President Carter and America deserved far better.

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,616 posts)
13. A Four-Decade Secret: One Man's Story of Sabotaging Carter's Re-election
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:24 AM
Mar 2023

Iran and the Reagan campaign conspired to cheat win the 1980 election. The hostages held by Iran was a major issue in that election and the failed attempt by President Carter to negotiate a release or rescue of these hostages was a major deal. Reagan promised the Iranian clergy to not make a deal with President Carter and that Reagan would give the Iranians a better deal. This is the same treasonous act that Nixon did in the 1968 with the Vietcong



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/18/us/politics/jimmy-carter-october-surprise-iran-hostages.html?unlocked_article_code=nVdsauiZTNp0fERHxsRn1JxxzIvw8LUvmmRHo2xwblDcu9TMpfdBOo1GncZsyN-8SwbCHlH6VdclbLcHL9eN4_6jynS7RRs-shtOrQu2TzIUe4Zt6GsuCYzwAh1sWWpFRLeE5JvCfdWIhi0Doph22mrZvRMaxQkGbVkFBE9oIz1DnR5ltnmjMpmW8v64YsJK9sSWBWtpG1wigJ3PtfHzxwLNheRnt5vXoB-z7kxwnY8-DuwSN0I5H7IiVVeC-8Oa_Sf-t92Ea6K_gjo0GkJjnLM15Vc4k_DvCGbCPbs7UlVki8VdppOlIFjOEKJEE-LxNpJL2bDXwHEfVESdr_xkmUZImRzAaeS_5ng_zts4f9RQAdf4nfLWJMs&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

It has been more than four decades, but Ben Barnes said he remembers it vividly. His longtime political mentor invited him on a mission to the Middle East. What Mr. Barnes said he did not realize until later was the real purpose of the mission: to sabotage the re-election campaign of the president of the United States.

It was 1980 and Jimmy Carter was in the White House, bedeviled by a hostage crisis in Iran that had paralyzed his presidency and hampered his effort to win a second term. Mr. Carter’s best chance for victory was to free the 52 Americans held captive before Election Day. That was something that Mr. Barnes said his mentor was determined to prevent.

His mentor was John B. Connally Jr., a titan of American politics and former Texas governor who had served three presidents and just lost his own bid for the White House. A former Democrat, Mr. Connally had sought the Republican nomination in 1980 only to be swamped by former Gov. Ronald Reagan of California. Now Mr. Connally resolved to help Mr. Reagan beat Mr. Carter and in the process, Mr. Barnes said, make his own case for becoming secretary of state or defense in a new administration.

What happened next Mr. Barnes has largely kept secret for nearly 43 years. Mr. Connally, he said, took him to one Middle Eastern capital after another that summer, meeting with a host of regional leaders to deliver a blunt message to be passed to Iran: Don’t release the hostages before the election. Mr. Reagan will win and give you a better deal.....

News of Mr. Barnes’s account came as validation to some of Mr. Carter’s remaining advisers. Gerald Rafshoon, who was his White House communications director, said any interference may have changed history. “If we had gotten the hostages home, we’d have won, I really believe that,” he said. “It’s pretty damn outrageous.”
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