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Rhiannon12866

(255,159 posts)
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:01 PM Apr 2023

BREAKING: Trump-appointed judge makes most DANGEROUS ruling yet - Meidas Touch



A Trump-appointed Texas federal judge, Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk, just halted FDA approval of abortion pill mifepristone. Then, almost instantaneously, a federal judge in Washington state said in a dueling ruling that the FDA must keep medication abortion drugs available. Legal AF host Karen Friedman Agnifilo reports.


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BREAKING: Trump-appointed judge makes most DANGEROUS ruling yet - Meidas Touch (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Apr 2023 OP
But her emails..... madaboutharry Apr 2023 #1
I often think of how different things would be in this country if the 2016 election results reflected Rhiannon12866 Apr 2023 #2
I know. madaboutharry Apr 2023 #3
This asshole's ruling seeks to force the govt. to accept christianity as state religion LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #4
This is excellent, thanks so much for posting. Rhiannon12866 Apr 2023 #5

Rhiannon12866

(255,159 posts)
2. I often think of how different things would be in this country if the 2016 election results reflected
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:59 PM
Apr 2023

The choice of the people.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,548 posts)
4. This asshole's ruling seeks to force the govt. to accept christianity as state religion
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 01:30 AM
Apr 2023

The premise of this asshole's ruling is that a fetus is human life.

Under Jewish religious law, it is clear that life begins at birth and there is no prohibition in the Torah on abortion. According to my Rabbi, the life of a fetus is only potential life and the life of the mother is more important than the life of a fetus. Alito's proposed opinion elevates Christian beliefs over Judaism.



https://jezebel.com/jewish-leaders-banning-abortion-is-absolutely-a-violat-1848885645

Conservatives—namely, white evangelical Christians—have long weaponized religious values as a shoddy defense for their decades-long conquest to criminalize abortion in the United States. But after a leaked draft of the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down Roe v. Wade sent shockwaves through the public consciousness on Monday night, a different kind of group of religious text-swinging heroes has emerged.

Coalitions of Rabbis across different sects of Judaism and a contingent of Jewish abortion activists are defending Jewish pregnant people’s right to abortion access, raising what they claim is a valid legal challenge: A national abortion ban would violate their right to religious freedom as guaranteed by the First Amendment. And as the right to bodily autonomy for women and pregnant people is threatened—largely impacting low-income Black and brown people—by conservative justices’ arguments that we should simply rewind to the good old years when women didn’t have any rights because, you know, some 17th century witch-hunter said so, Jewish communities are putting their foot down to say, “Not in my religion.”......

For evidence, Rabbi Ruttenberg points to the Book of Exodus in the Torah, which discusses a case where two men accidentally knock over a pregnant person and cause them to miscarry:

“When men fight, and one of them pushes a pregnant woman and a miscarriage results, but no other harm ensues, the one responsible shall be fined when the woman’s husband demands compensation; the payment will be determined by judges. But if other harm ensues, the penalty shall be life for life.”

The Hebrew Bible, she says, does not regard the fetus as a person, for the Torah doesn’t specify how long the woman has been pregnant when the miscarriage happens. Another annotated text states, “If she is found pregnant, until the fortieth day it is mere fluid,” meaning the fetus does not have agency for at least forty days of pregnancy. For that reason, some interpretations of Jewish law say that personhood begins with the first breath. “It’s not murder, basically, and the Talmud lays that out really explicitly,” she says.

I like the idea of a lawsuit filed on the basis of the First Amendment. Alito's draft opinion favors conservative christian theology over the faith all all or most Jews.

Rhiannon12866

(255,159 posts)
5. This is excellent, thanks so much for posting.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 01:53 AM
Apr 2023

And I was just listening to both the attorney and the physician on The Last Word - who not only disagreed with the opinion that this medication is unsafe, but the doctor was very disturbed that someone with no medical training is making medical decisions that could harm so many women. And, of course, we have to go back to the original argument, that it is totally unacceptable for one individual to make such personal decisions for an entire population of people - and families - who he will never know.

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