Newsom May End DeSantis's 2024 Run With This

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

[Deuxcents]

1. Oh, please, please be bold Governor Newsome

[BlueKota]

2. Team Gavin

All the Way

[bucolic_frolic]

3. Newsom is wise to turn it over to CA State AG

This has to stop. A lot of people are involved in these operations, but someone is at the head too. Always involves TX and FL. You think Abbott and DeSantis talk about it? Ya think?

[ancianita]

4. Doubtful. DeSantis wasn't "found within the limits thereof," so no legal liability for him in CA.

DeSantis is covered by FL law that allows his Division of Emergency Management and its contractor Vertol Systems Co., to "transfer" migrants if TX says it's okay. So, whatever law Newsom quotes doesn't apply to DeSantis. And California's AG will probably not prevail. New Mexico law might cover this transfer business, though it could have been a "commerce" transaction on private property, but there's no news about that.

I'm no lawyer; this is just a layman's opinion.

[TeamProg]

6. Not DeSantis re: """found within the limits thereof,""" THE IMMIGRANTS being ""found within the

limits thereof," Those WHO were KIDNAPPED.

Right?

[InstantGratification]

8. Kidnapping?

Not a lawyer, but if they can make an actual case for that (our wishes and dreams don't count), then a kidnapping that crosses state lines makes it a federal case and makes the FBI lead agency in the investigation.

[TeamProg]

9. Yes + Yes State law + Yes Fed law.. But CA AG Rob Bonta can ONLY prsecue Calif law.. nt

[calimary]

10. Welcome to DU, InstantGratification!

Yeah, I wondered that, too. I'm not a lawyer either but it sure sounds like a case could be made for some sort of kidnapping charge.

[ancianita]

20. Wrong. Read the whole single sentence: "Every person who, being out of this state,...

abducts or takes by force or fraud [that would be DeSantis and agents] any person contrary to the law of the place where that act is committed],[that would be with the consent of Abbott IN Texas] and brings, sends, or conveys that person within the limits of this state, and is afterward found within the limits thereof,[neither DeSantis or agents were "found within the limits of this state"] is guilty of kidnapping."

What part of this only applies to the victims? This applies to DeSantis and his so-called lawful agents and actions from Florida.

Of course, the feds could see this as federally unlawful -- but they haven't acted yet because there doesn't seem, so far, to be a quoted federal law that affects governor-sanctioned actions. I'm just talking about a law against kidnapping. There might well be a federal law against "human trafficking," which is technically different.
Governors can get away with a shitton of stuff without federal accountability. This might be one of those times. Since DeSantis is a Harvard grad and lawyer, he might know something about both kidnapping and trafficking laws that we don't.

What we see as immoral might not be illegal.

[TeamProg]

5. K&R Thanks for posting. n/t

[WA-03 Democrat]

7. GO GAVIN GO!

Love him and it time to fry these fuckers

[calimary]

11. Still love him!

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Newsom ROCKS!!!

[MyOwnPeace]

14. BUT...........

Shouldn't we expect accountability regarding past judgments? He WAS married to Kimberly Guilfoyle, right?

OR, do we give him even MORE credit for NO LONGER being married to her?

(Well, there's some 'guy' the RWNJ's claim as 'theirs' who said something about 'casting the first stone....' )

[calimary]

17. Nobody's perfect.

I'll always wonder what on earth he saw in her. But I'm glad they're no longer together. Don't know who initiated that breakup but I think we can all be glad it happened.

[republianmushroom]

12. like it.

[dchill]

13. Oops. There's a law for that!

[PortTack]

15. This guy is a very respected attorney...here's his take

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRo316Xu/

[Rhiannon12866]

21. Thanks so much!

[PortTack]

22. Welcome!

[Rhiannon12866]

23. He told the whole story and I sure hope that DeSantis answers for all of his cruelty

[PortTack]

24. Me too! It is just so cruel!

[Upthevibe]

16. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin..............

I LOVE Governor Newsome.

I hope he's legally able to move forward with charges....

[malaise]

19. Yes

Yes! Yes!