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TexasTowelie

(127,346 posts)
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 04:40 PM Jun 2023

Special Prosecutor Asks For Massive Delay For Trump Espionage Trial - Ring of Fire



On Friday, the Justice Department asked for a massive delay in the trial of Donald Trump on Espionage Act charges, petitioning Judge Aileen Cannon to move the trial from August to December. As we discussed last week, a trial date less than two months out was far more damaging to the prosecution than to Trump's defense team, and that appears to be the case as the DOJ wants an additional four months to get their information together. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains what all of this means.

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*This transcript was generated by a third-party transcription software company, so please excuse any typos.

On Friday, prosecutors from the Special prosecutor's office filed a motion with Judge Eileen Cannon asking for a massive extension in the upcoming Donald Trump Espionage Act violation case. Now, cannon, as we talked about last week, had actually set a date of August 14th for that trial. And as I mentioned last week, what did I say? I said that that's actually not a problem for Trump's people. That's more of a problem for Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, because when she made that ruling, it was 55 days from when she made the ruling to when the trial started. We've now lost about a week of that, right? But I said at the time, I said, the prosecution is the one that has to get this case together in record speed. They have to put it together. They have to have their arguments, they have to have their counter arguments to anything the defense could bring up.

It takes a long time to do that. Most criminal trials, especially of this caliber, take about a year or more before they ever actually go to trial. The defense, on the other hand, they're given all of the evidence that the prosecution has. So all they have to come up with as reasons why that evidence isn't, you know, doesn't matter. It's an easier job for them. I'm not saying it's easier to be a defense lawyer than a prosecutor, I'm just saying with this particular set of facts, it would be easier for them to come up with their arguments quickly than it would be for the prosecution, which of course has now led us to this story because as I said, the prosecutors were gonna have a hell of a hard time doing that. And now they're basically admitting it in court, telling the judge like, this is not workable, judge, we need you to postpone this trial.

Not a month, not two months, but four months. The prosecutors are asking the judge to move the trial date from August 14th to December 11th. Now, there's a problem with that as well, cuz you know what else is scheduled for December? Donald Trump's criminal trial in Manhattan. So we would then have two overlapping trials. And of course that can't happen. You can't have a defendant be in two places at once, so December's not gonna work. So we don't know when this trial will be. It may stay in August, but this is one of those situations where I told you, I warned you that this was not good for the prosecution and now the prosecution is out there admitting it. And this of course could be one of the ways in which Judge Cannon ends up rigging the game in favor of Donald Trump. Because if she does not grant an extension, it doesn't mean that the prosecution is screwed, but it does mean that they've got a hell of a lot of work to do right in front of them. This is also another reason why I said that we needed two

Separate special prosecutors. One investigating the documents, one investigating the attempts to overturn the election because right now, Jack Smith, now that the documents thing, he's got his indictments and he's moved on, he's over here working on the attempts to overturn the election case. He's getting people flipping, he's doing some great stuff over there, but because of that, he can't focus on the documents. But if we had two separate special prosecutors, th this wouldn't be an issue. But it is because we set it up stupidly because the DOJ didn't even want to do it in the first place. So there's a lot of missteps here, by the way, none of which are coming from Jack Smith.
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Special Prosecutor Asks For Massive Delay For Trump Espionage Trial - Ring of Fire (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jun 2023 OP
4 months NOT 'massive.' elleng Jun 2023 #1
I try to use exact titles. TexasTowelie Jun 2023 #2
Gotcha, my complaint is with the 'creators.' elleng Jun 2023 #4
The other day when somebody complained about clickbait titles I did come up with an idea. TexasTowelie Jun 2023 #5
Some of the emotive language we see here is cartoonish and embarrassing. Magoo48 Jun 2023 #3
I agree. The Ring-of-Fire folks are frequently click-baity. (Annoying.) Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #6

TexasTowelie

(127,346 posts)
2. I try to use exact titles.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 04:52 PM
Jun 2023

I'm not going to take the artistic license of what the creators intended when they put titles on the videos. DU is not an English class or a journalism class.

TexasTowelie

(127,346 posts)
5. The other day when somebody complained about clickbait titles I did come up with an idea.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 05:13 PM
Jun 2023

I was going to change every title to "Let's talk about (my creative suggestion)" like Beau of the Fifth Column does. Meanwhile, I would leave off the content creators in the thread title. I suspect that after 6 - 8 hours of doing those changes everybody will be begging me to revert back to my current posting habits because once the video thumbnails drop off of the front page it would be impossible to know what the topics are for those videos, except from those creative titles. Therefore, instead of sporadic threads having clickbait titles, ALL of the threads would become clickbait. To make things even worse, I could also throw in a few duplicate threads to be especially annoying.

The moral of the story...be careful what you wish for, you might get it!

Magoo48

(6,721 posts)
3. Some of the emotive language we see here is cartoonish and embarrassing.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 04:53 PM
Jun 2023

Post you’re bit; I’ll decide whether it’s a bombshell or a belch.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
6. I agree. The Ring-of-Fire folks are frequently click-baity. (Annoying.)
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 05:24 PM
Jun 2023

I can spot it a mile away, and it makes me avoid clicking the clickbait hype videos. Then, over time, it makes me not want to click their stuff AT ALL regardless if the title is over-the-top clickbait.

Also... it's OLD NEWS. They're clickbaiting something that is more than 48 hours old. Which, I guess, has the clickbait effect of making it sound like NEW news or an ADDITIONAL delay on top of the original 4 month delay.

If the trial starts on Dec 11th and is expected to take 14 days... that means it ENDS ON CHRISTMAS EVE (or so!) What a lovely way to end the year and start the new year!

I have no problems with the delay.

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