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riversedge

(80,808 posts)
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 04:13 AM Aug 2023

TONIGHT will go down in history as a turning point. August 14th, 2023. History is being made....now.

Something does feel different about this indictment.




@thejackhopkins
The United States of America is tired of Donald Trump’s bullshit. It’s about to come to a sudden halt. He can’t buy his way out of this. He can’t threaten his way out of this. Donald John Trump is DONE.

He won’t be the nominee. He will never again hold any office. His grasp on the GOP is slipping rapidly…and it will let go completely very soon.

You might not believe that. That’s okay. What I’ve laid out doesn’t require anyone to believe it,for it to happen. It will happen. Who will be the nominee? I don’t know yet. I just know who it won’t be: it won’t be Donald Trump.

TONIGHT will go down in history as a turning point. August 14th, 2023. History is being made….now.







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@EdKrassen
Where is the line drawn for what constitutes potential witness tampering?


Trump, this morning, made this Truth Social post, attacking Former Georgia Lt. Gov Geoff Duncan who is reportedly testifying against him in front of Fani Willis' Fulton County Grand Jury.

"I am reading reports that failed former Lt. Governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury. He shouldn’t. I barely know him but he was, right from the beginning of this Witch Hunt, a nasty disaster for those looking into the Election Fraud that took place in Georgia. He refused having a Special Session to find out what went on, became very unpopular with Republicans (I refused to endorse him!), and fought the TRUTH all the way. A loser, he went to FNCNN!"

This is definitely not a threat but it does seem to be a push to intimidate Duncan?

Where should the line be drawn?


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TONIGHT will go down in history as a turning point. August 14th, 2023. History is being made....now. (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2023 OP
Thx for posting this...it gives me a lot of hope PortTack Aug 2023 #1
Interesting OP, how do GA Republicans wiggle out of this one? bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #2
Republicans in the state house were more than willing to pass laws to suppress voting and Lonestarblue Aug 2023 #6
And that pardon can only be considered after a sentence has been served in its entirety and... littlemissmartypants Aug 2023 #8
Well musclecar6 Aug 2023 #3
"He shouldn't." "This is definitely not a threat"? bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #4
I posted this yesterday before the news hit..... BigmanPigman Aug 2023 #5
"A loser, he went to FNCNN!" ShazzieB Aug 2023 #7
F_ _ _ IN CNN...? littlemissmartypants Aug 2023 #9
Could be. ShazzieB Aug 2023 #10

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
2. Interesting OP, how do GA Republicans wiggle out of this one?
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 06:13 AM
Aug 2023

Fire the DA?

Historically, do you see the trial more like O.J., or Nuremberg? Eichmann was described at the time as appearing so normal, the banality of evil, everyone just went along because it was the thing to do. Nazis were a cult too.

Lonestarblue

(13,477 posts)
6. Republicans in the state house were more than willing to pass laws to suppress voting and
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 07:07 AM
Aug 2023

ensure their future elections, but I don’t see that they have much wiggle room to do anything. The governor also does not seem to be a big Trump fan. Eventually Trump could be pardoned, but it would have to be by the State Board of Pardons and Paroles. It’s five members are appointed by the governor, so they may all be Republicans, but they’re not running for election so they’re less likely to be swayed by current politics or threats from Trump.

littlemissmartypants

(33,579 posts)
8. And that pardon can only be considered after a sentence has been served in its entirety and...
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 08:54 AM
Aug 2023
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/apply-pardon

Georgia State Pardon

There are two different pardon applications. Please review the information below to determine which application pertains to your situation.

● General Pardon and Restoration of Rights Application ( application )

● Registered Sex Offender Pardon Application ( application )

To qualify for a Pardon for offenses other than sex offenses which require you to be listed on Georgia’s Sex Offender Registry:

You must have completed all sentence(s) at least five (5) years prior to applying.

● You must have lived a law-abiding life during the five (5) years prior to applying.

● You cannot have any pending charges.

● All fines must be paid in full.

https://pap.georgia.gov/parole-consideration/pardons-restoration-rights

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
3. Well
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 06:25 AM
Aug 2023


Just going by the defendant’s recent and distant history, he is probably the last person that you could count on to not intimidate witnesses, jurors or judges, or prosecutors, etc. So with that in mind, if I were the judge, it would be no doubt in my mind I would put him in Jail until the completion of the trial.

Of course, as we know, and obviously by design, the defendant has been running for president again for quite some time to hopefully preclude a judge from doing that very thing, while he continues to do all the things the judge’s tell him not to do.

Seems to me the only effective way to handle the defendant is to put a muzzle on him by putting him in jail and censor every communication that he makes while he’s in jail. In addition, since he has to obviously meet with his lawyers for legal consultation while in jail, you have to tell all of his attorneys that they too, will be subject, to all kinds of criminal prosecution if they communicate any intimidations to the people that the judge has precluded him from intimidating.

Of course probably none of the above will happen, and we will all have a ringside seat to watch the non stop nonsense the defendant is constantly entertaining us with.

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
4. "He shouldn't." "This is definitely not a threat"?
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 06:47 AM
Aug 2023

More like a warning, and if a warning is not a threat it's news to me.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
5. I posted this yesterday before the news hit.....
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 07:05 AM
Aug 2023

Trump Suggested A Witness ‘Shouldn’t’ Testify In Georgia’s Grand Jury Proceedings—Critics Say That’s Witness Intimidation"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2023/08/14/trump-suggested-a-witness-shouldnt-testify-in-georgias-grand-jury-proceedings-critics-say-thats-witness-intimidation/?sh=32d8e07157be

"Former President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social, his social media platform, on Monday saying Georgia’s former Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan “shouldn’t” testify in grand jury proceedings this week regarding allegations that Trump attempted to overturn the 2020 election results in the state—and some legal analysts are saying the post could be witness intimidation or tampering."

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
7. "A loser, he went to FNCNN!"
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 07:12 AM
Aug 2023

What's FNCNN?

I swear, there's so much happening so fast, I can't keep up! (That's NOT a complaint, just a statement of fact. )

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
10. Could be.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 04:15 PM
Aug 2023

I never would have even thought of that, ha!

Is Duncan working for CNN now? (I wouldn’t know because I never watch them.) If so, it fits.


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