Did Steven Crowder Deserve it?

[rdubwiley]

[limpyhobbler]

1. yes he did

[notadmblnd]

2. I believe it was a staged act a la James Okeefe

This was a protest against a bill not a rally in support of it. The group whose tent was torn down had no business being there other than to provoke the protesters. Crowder jumping into the fray instead of minding his own business and reporting the news ensured the tussle. Yeah, he got exactly what he went there to get.

[Great Caesars Ghost]

3. no, he deserves worse.

[backscatter712]

7. I tend to prefer terms like whining crybabies.

The "sissies", or shall I say, members of the GLBT community, that I know personally, are incredibly courageous. As are so many women I know who've had to deal with a hell of a lot of violent shit.

Crowder is not. Just a subhuman little cowardly violent cockroach that squealed about his tiny little cut after the fisticuffs were done.

[digonswine]

10. Copy/Paste this to the Yahoo news comments section

Seriously-this is the type of comment I look at and wonder at why ignorant fucks feel like their opinion matters.
When you can communicate like an adult, please come back. Fuck off-

[JeffHead]

5. Is a fat baby heavy?

He got what he came for. By provoking that guy to punch the little prick in the mouth and getting it on tape in order to promote their whole "union thug" meme. He hasn't been on Fux so called news in 6 months he get this tape and Bang He's on with Hannity.

[winterwar]

18. He is lucky

I was there and dozens of union members were in "peace teams" to break things up. The unions had every intention of having this be an incident-free event. He has the union "peace teams" to thank for having legs that work. Me? If he pushed me down, I don't know how far it could have went. But he got less than he deserved. Dare someone to call that old man lazy!

[backscatter712]

6. Of course Crowder fucking deserved it.

Yeah, that's me applauding and justifying violence again.

But shoving a person to the ground is violence itself, and certainly a threat of violence., and the video shows that Crowder or one of his thugs initiated the violence with the shove.

Sorry, but if you shove me to the ground, you risk receiving a right hook.

[AlexSatan]

24. Did you see him push the guy to the ground?

I didn't.

I saw the guy on the ground. I didn't see if they were bumped together and the guy tripped or what. I'd need to see the FULL unedited video before naking a determination.

The only time people should resort to physical violence is in defense.

Otherwise you have cases as in the stereotypical high school movie where the protagonist is walking down the hall, accidentally bumps the jocks and the jock then threatens a fight or just hauls off and hits the protagonist.

[grasswire]

8. Fact: Crowder is NOT a news man -- he is a professional COMEDIAN

Self described career comedian and sometimes blogger.

Ergo: an ENTERTAINER.

[Crowman1979]

29. Well he's a pretty lousy comedian if you ask me.

IMO conservative comedians always come off as condescending pricks.

[KansDem]

31. And they're just not funny, either...

Reminds me of this clip from Monty Python:

[standingtall]

9. If this aired on Hannity faux news screwed up

Fake news network that lie all the time have to remember their lies. This video clearly shows the guy getting off the ground before swinging. He was probably pushed or even punched by Crowder. Which means Crowder initiated the assault. Hopefully someone has the fully unedited footage of this event other than faux news.

[secondvariety]

11. Of course.

And a swift kick in the jimmies.

[mtasselin]

12. work

This crowder asshole I am thinking has never worked a day in his life, he looks just like a pretty boy.

[alp227]

14. Do you count voicing a cartoon character as work?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0189589/

I never realized that the voice behind The Brain from Arthur would grow up to be a right wing turd.

[heaven05]

13. yes

[Dawson Leery]

15. Yes.

He put himself in the face of these peaceful protesters. The protesters were right to defend themselves from Crowder's aggression.

[NickP]

16. Of course he did

It appears he pushed someone to the ground, so the man reciprocated and punched him square in the face. I think he should have pulled a few more instead of letting the idiot get away.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. He's lucky he didn't wake up tied to a chair in an empty warehouse.

[Third Doctor]

19. He came looking for a fight and he got one.

They keep sensationalizing this like this was the true ass beating he deserved and it wasn't.

[DeSwiss]

20. Ultimately, the only one who can judge what we deserve, is ourselves.

- The only thing that I know we all deserve, is love.

"Violence is an admission that one's ideas and goals cannot prevail on their own merits." - Edward Kennedy

"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

''Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.'' - Isaac Asimov

[AlexSatan]

25. Yes, really

[Botany]

21. What I noticed after seeing these two tapes was that Crowder picked the smallest ....

.... guy to pick a fight w/ and if the man that punched crowder hadn't been pulled away
by another union person he would have gotten his ass kicked.

Crowder did not mess w/ the tough guy who told him to get the fuck out of my face.

[Theotherggirl]

22. Deserve it?

Yes he deserved every punch.

[hrmjustin]

27. Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site.

[rational_pi]

23. Deserved it!

He was obnoxious , getting on to faces of protesters! He was repeatedly told to get out of the way. Protesters were not there to give time to the bozo and debate him. They kept telling him get lost. They were not interested debating some random idiot.

Doubt many knew who he was. I had not heard of him before this.
He was probably counting on protesters to show self restraint and then later brag about confronting them. To some extent he did get what he wanted, as other protesters stepped in to save his ass from getting a real beating.

[kysrsoze]

26. Absolutely. Chump!

[Jack Rabbit]

28. I don't want to say yes, but Crowder did everything in his power to provole it

First, he represents FoxNews, which has been lying to the working class from its inception by telling their working class audience that their problems have nothing to do with the CEO, but with (starts with n and rhymes with triggers), latinos, especially illegal aliens, gays (somehow, their advancing equal rights has something to so with so many people being out of work), working women taking their jobs and then they slip in that it's really working people's fault because their wages are too high.

Working people ave figured something out about FoxNews since the market meltdown of 2008. O'Reilly, Hannity, Megan Kelly and Steven Crowder are corporate whores who lied to these people and manipulated them into voting for Reagan, voting for Bush the Frat Boy and supporting his stupid, imperialist wars. FoxNews is no friend of working Americans.

Second, Mr. Crowder, when interviewing the protesters, maintained a belligerent posture. "What's wrong with 'right to work'?" He practically shouted that question, in a tone that betrayed a feeling that any reasonable person, even a union member, should support the legislation passed by the Michigan legislature last week. What, don't these people want to work? Well, yes they do, Mr. Crowder, but what you don't seem to understand is that they expect to be paid for it. You and the rest of the market fundamentalist seem to miss that point. If your arguing that if employers had to pay their workers a wage they can live on that they wouldn't have a job at all because employers can't afford that, then you are arguing that the system doesn't work.

There was a time when workers were paid living wages for their labor. It might be worth reminding all the foolish market fundamentalist (I know, foolish market fundamentalist is a redundancy) that America's golden age was a time when the producers had an easier time joining labor unions. It might be good to remember that. Those who think capitalism is niftyneetokeeno might like to be reminded of a time when the system worked for more people than it does now. It wouldn't bother me to return to such an arrangement. However, be warned: the vision of the Koch brothers will not be tolerated. We will live in a world of democracy, with respect for human rights and where all people who work are compensated fairly. I don't think such a world is incompatible with free enterprise operating under common sense government regulations. If the right wing morons who listen to Rush Limbaugh and watch FoxNews continue to push their anti-democratic, plutocratic agenda and claim that liberty means nothing more than the freedom of the rich to oppress the rest of us, then it will be preferable to place the means of production in the hands of the people themselves with no further interference from rich people with a bloated sense of their value to the world.

Socialism is still better than a Koch brothers dictatorship fronted by puppets like Scott Walker or Rick Snyder or the poseurs at FoxNews. Let that be a further warning: we know who our enemies are, and they art not crooked politicians or right wing propagandists posing as journalists. Next time one of us strikes, pick a better target that a worthless FoxNews personality. Strike a corrupt Wall Street banker or a right wing industrialist instead.

[AProgressiveThinker]

30. Crowder is a liar

Crowder pushes the guy to the ground, which is clearly seen in the unedited version, the guy stands up to him and punches him and then Crowder has the audacity to go on Fox "News" and say that the guy better stand up and turn himself in to go to jail or challenge him in an MMA fight and he's an old man for god's sake! Crowder is an asshole who deserved it.