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syringis

(5,101 posts)
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:18 PM May 2018

I missed you

Hello my friends. I abandoned you, against my will, without explanation

Last weeks were a bit hard.

First of all, many thanks to all who sent me a PM. I'll answer them soon.

Well, I'm still dealing with that f***ing phlebitis but it was not the only reason that kept me away from DU.

Someone I know, lost his son. It is not clear if it was an accident or a suicide. The kid was 18.

He is going through hell, his family life is shattered as his wife is putting the blame on him, and their other son is very disturbed and had to be hospitalized because of his risky behaviour.

He was counting on me even though he's not really a close friend. His friends (so called more like) turned their back on him I didn't have the heart to let him down.

By the way, I couldn't help much. I could only listen to him and bring him some moral comfort.

I took a step back, though, because it became very stressful as he wanted me to take a stand on his relationship issues, which is totally out of the question, even if he had been a very close friend.

He didn't like it, he is mad at me, pretending everyone's letting him down, though, I don't see what more I can do.
I don't blame him, he's in a lot of pain. I will continue to support him but I advised him to turn to a professional who can better help him.

That's basically the story, I can't give all the details but it became really too heavy to bear. Still, I feel guilty.

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I missed you (Original Post) syringis May 2018 OP
Welcome back dear syringis Docreed2003 May 2018 #1
Hi Docreed syringis May 2018 #5
I hear you... Docreed2003 May 2018 #7
You have been missed, syringis. I was thinking about you last night. TexasProgresive May 2018 #2
Hi TexasProgressive syringis May 2018 #8
Welcome back. I'm so sorry to hear what spooky3 May 2018 #3
Hi Spooky3 syringis May 2018 #10
Hope coming here will help you feel spooky3 May 2018 #13
It will syringis May 2018 #19
Syringis is back! FakeNoose May 2018 #4
Hi FakeNoose syringis May 2018 #12
Welcome back syringis! smirkymonkey May 2018 #6
There you are! MontanaMama May 2018 #9
Hi MontanaMama syringis May 2018 #15
You were missed! MontanaMama May 2018 #20
Good to see you again! beveeheart May 2018 #11
Hi Beveeheart syringis May 2018 #16
Glad to see you back. Always read and enjoy your posts. justhanginon May 2018 #14
Hi Justhangigon syringis May 2018 #17
I am glad you're back. irisblue May 2018 #18
Hi Irisblue syringis May 2018 #22
Welcome back syringis. sheshe2 May 2018 #21
Hi Sheshe2 syringis May 2018 #23
Welcome back! Heartstrings May 2018 #24
Hi Heartstring syringis May 2018 #35
Sounds like yu did the right thing. You are a good friend. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #25
Hi Honeycombe syringis May 2018 #36
Hugs, syringis. So sorry you're going through a rough patch. sarge43 May 2018 #26
Hi Sarge43 syringis May 2018 #37
Good to hear you and the doctors have a handle on it. n/t sarge43 May 2018 #43
Dear syringis, I missed you, thought about you, hoped you were OK. I'm very fierywoman May 2018 #27
Hi Fierywoman syringis May 2018 #38
I'm so sorry to hear this, syringis ailsagirl May 2018 #28
Hi Ailsagirl syringis May 2018 #39
Good to have you back! ailsagirl May 2018 #59
Everyone at DU Missed You Leith May 2018 #29
Hi Leith syringis May 2018 #40
I can appreciate the constraints of your friendship. Dem_in_Nebr. May 2018 #30
Hi Dem_in_Nebr. syringis May 2018 #41
Bienvenue. J'espere que tes soucis ne pesent pas trop. drray23 May 2018 #31
Bonjour Drray syringis May 2018 #42
i remember when my daughter died. barbtries May 2018 #32
Well, you have certainly been a friend to this person and family. TNNurse May 2018 #33
Hi TNNurse syringis May 2018 #46
Welcome back. Your friend needs family counseling. sinkingfeeling May 2018 #34
Hi Sinkingthefeeling syringis May 2018 #45
That's tough going. PatrickforO May 2018 #44
Hi PatrickforO syringis May 2018 #47
May I add my voice to all those saying "Welcome back!" 3catwoman3 May 2018 #48
Hi Catwoman syringis May 2018 #49
Aww.. Mahalo for the link to this Cha May 2018 #50
Hi Cha syringis May 2018 #51
I think it's Cha May 2018 #52
Welcome back, syringis. Aristus May 2018 #53
Hi Aristus syringis May 2018 #56
I am so sorry for your friend! And that you found yourself in such a tough position. Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #54
I missed you. Ohiya May 2018 #55
Hi Ohiya syringis May 2018 #57
Glad you see you back kimbutgar May 2018 #58
Hi Kim syringis May 2018 #61
Hi syringis NastyRiffraff May 2018 #60
Hi NastyRiffraff syringis May 2018 #62
Re-bienvenue DFW May 2018 #63
Salut DFW syringis May 2018 #64
C'est pour le 25 mai meme! DFW May 2018 #65
Felicitations ! syringis May 2018 #66
Je ne sais pas qu'est-ce qu'on a fait DFW May 2018 #67

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
1. Welcome back dear syringis
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:20 PM
May 2018

So sorry to hear of your struggles...there are no words that can adequately express my sorrow for what you must be gong through.

Know that you have been missed, and seeing your post brought a little bit of sunshine to this rainy Memorial Day!

syringis

(5,101 posts)
5. Hi Docreed
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:37 PM
May 2018

Thank you very much

I have lost the thread of the trumpian tribulations... I have to update myself.

On the bright side, it is relaxing to not to hear about the walking disaster who's squatting the WH...

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
7. I hear you...
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:40 PM
May 2018

I've spent the majority of the weekend away from th madness on a couples trip with my wife and brother in law and his wife...a break from this isn't a bad thing! Now I'm playing catch up!

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
2. You have been missed, syringis. I was thinking about you last night.
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:24 PM
May 2018

I am so sorry about the effing phlebitis and hoping that gets better soon. As to your friend it is good that you are there for him even though there is not much you can do. He and his family are in my heart. This is very tough. A family I know had a sudden death that is suspicious as well and they don't want to talk about it. How can the grieve?

syringis

(5,101 posts)
8. Hi TexasProgressive
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:43 PM
May 2018

Thank you very much

In fact, it is not really a friend. An acquaintance more like. I couldn't let him down since almost everyone in his inner circle did...



syringis

(5,101 posts)
10. Hi Spooky3
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:49 PM
May 2018

Thank you very much

I'm not making you say it !

The problem is, there's not much we can do about it.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
4. Syringis is back!
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:36 PM
May 2018


So happy to hear from you and I hope you are well. Sorry about your friend and the loss of his son. Sometimes it's hard to know what to say, but maybe just listen and hope he finds his own way.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
12. Hi FakeNoose
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:56 PM
May 2018

Thank you very much

In fact, it is not really a friend. An acquaintance more like. I couldn't let him down since almost everyone in his inner circle did...

It is far beyond my understanding, how people turn their back so easily on someone when he falls in trouble.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Welcome back syringis!
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:40 PM
May 2018

I am so sorry for what you have been going through but I am so glad to hear from you and that you are back! I know how hard it can be when someone, especially if you are not very close to them, pushes your boundaries like that and demands more than you can give. It must have been very stressful for you, especially with your own problems that you have to deal with.

I will write more to you in my IM.

So glad to hear from you and that you are ok!

syringis

(5,101 posts)
17. Hi Justhangigon
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:02 PM
May 2018

Thank you very much

It's good to be back, I really missed DU and DUers

I'll do my best to find some interesting things to post

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
24. Welcome back!
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:23 PM
May 2018

Sounds like very stressful times. Think it was a very good thing to take a step back. I do agree it’s time for the professionals to step in. Don’t forget to breathe, and especially to take of yourself!

We’re here for you dear syringis!

syringis

(5,101 posts)
35. Hi Heartstring
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:29 PM
May 2018

Thank you very much

I hope he will follow my advice. I'll keep an eye on him and his family without involving myself.

If needed, I will contact their family doctor.

It's good to be back.

I'm touched by the kindness of the DUers

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. Sounds like yu did the right thing. You are a good friend.
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:25 PM
May 2018

It is when you have hit bottom that you find out who your true friends are. Even though you aren't close, you did hte right thing. I would not have been able to turn my back, either. But assisting w/relationship issues is too much. I agree...professional help is called for. Hope his insurance covers that and his deductible is low.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
26. Hugs, syringis. So sorry you're going through a rough patch.
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:49 PM
May 2018

One thought: Stop feeling guilty. You did what you could and you gave him good advice. You must take care of yourself first.

That sucks about the phlebitis - nasty condition. Can the doctors do anything?

Now I'll take my nose out of your business and welcome you back to the monkey show. Good to have you back.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
37. Hi Sarge43
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:46 PM
May 2018

Thank you very much


You are right. It is typically a case that requires a professional help.


I have a medical treatment for my phlebitis. It is getting better but it is time-consuming about 6 months or so.

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
27. Dear syringis, I missed you, thought about you, hoped you were OK. I'm very
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:52 PM
May 2018

glad you're back -- sorry you had to be in the middle of so much drama.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
38. Hi Fierywoman
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:51 PM
May 2018

Thank you very much

I didn't think it would get me this far.

I feel guilty to have disappeared without a word.



Dem_in_Nebr.

(301 posts)
30. I can appreciate the constraints of your friendship.
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:55 PM
May 2018

Being asked to take sides on relationship issues is always a toughy.

Take care in that. and of your self

syringis

(5,101 posts)
41. Hi Dem_in_Nebr.
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:02 PM
May 2018

Last edited Mon May 28, 2018, 09:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Thank you very much

Yes is it though to take sides on relationship issues, even in a less tragic context, because no one outside the people concerned knows the real situation.




drray23

(7,629 posts)
31. Bienvenue. J'espere que tes soucis ne pesent pas trop.
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:55 PM
May 2018

C'est difficile de gerer ses propres problemes medicaux est aussi avoir a servir de support pour une personne en detresse. Je te souhaite bon courage.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
42. Bonjour Drray
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:08 PM
May 2018

Merci, c'est gentil.

J'ai fait ce que j'ai pu mais c'est réellement une situation pourrie. Elle demande une aide de professionnels.

De toutes façons, même en dehors du contexte tragique et même si c'était quelqu'un de plus proche, je ne prendrai jamais parti dans des problèmes aussi personnels et intimes.

Parce que personne en dehors de celles qui sont concernées, ne connaît la situation réelle.

barbtries

(28,794 posts)
32. i remember when my daughter died.
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:00 PM
May 2018

it was like i was contagious. but i had one good friend, he took me to the desert to get away, we hiked out at a place called the pinnacles. he said, "I don't know what to say to you."

it was the kindest most loving thing he could have said. i told him it's worth so much to me that you are willing to be next to me right now. i wasn't easy to be near at the time, the pain was overwhelming. i was dysfunctional for a very long time. I went to grief counseling and i wrote a book and after some time got active. time is the greatest healer.

he listened and did not judge. whatever he may have thought he kept to himself. really, this was a gift. others avoided me or said inappropriate things (I believe it was fear or just how extremely uncomfortable the depth of the loss made them, but i don't really know).

thank you for being a friend. it's agonizing that this man and his family cannot come together at this terrible time. so sorry.

also, a book was given to me by my MADD woman. it's called "No Time for Good-byes"
https://www.amazon.com/No-Time-Goodbyes-Coping-Injustice/dp/1878321404/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1527551905&sr=1-2&keywords=%22No+Time+for+Good-bye%22&dpID=41PsqkxbhxL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

if they won't seek counseling, which i would very much recommend, this book might be a comfort to them, just knowing they are not alone in this uniquely terrible, worst possible, situation.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
46. Hi TNNurse
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:52 PM
May 2018

I did the best I could. I hope they will ask for a more efficient help than mine. I can only give a moral support.

They really need a professional help.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
45. Hi Sinkingthefeeling
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:44 PM
May 2018

Thank you very much

It's good to be back

Yes he needs professional help. I hope he will follow my advice. I'm keeping an eye on him and his family.

If needed, I will contact their family doctor.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
44. That's tough going.
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:33 PM
May 2018

You probably helped him a lot. Just being there was a good thing.

He might seem mad at you now, but he'll come around. Good friends like you are hard to come by. I'm 59 and have two. One is my wife. So, your friend is one lucky stiff.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
47. Hi PatrickforO
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:59 PM
May 2018

I did the best I could.

I don't blame him because he is mad. He is going through hell. Besides his tragic loss, there is an awfull situation with many serious issues that needs a professional help.

In fact, it is not really a friend. An acquaintance more like. I couldn't let him down since almost everyone in his inner circle did...

It is far beyond my understanding, how people turn their back so easily on someone when he falls in trouble, as if it was contagious...



3catwoman3

(23,985 posts)
48. May I add my voice to all those saying "Welcome back!"
Mon May 28, 2018, 09:59 PM
May 2018

I know you have been a member here for a relatively short time, yet you have added so much to this community since you came on board. I hope you can tell, from all the enthusiastic responses, how happy we are that you are back.

Your acquaintance most surely needs help from a professional with expertise in this kind of complicated and devastating situation. A sympathetic ear is important, of course, but has its limits.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
49. Hi Catwoman
Mon May 28, 2018, 10:18 PM
May 2018

It is so kind, thank you very much

I feel guilty to have disappeared without a word.

I didn't think trying to help someone in pain, would get me this far. I coudn't do much .I'll continue to give him a friendly ear, but he needs a professional help.



Cha

(297,220 posts)
50. Aww.. Mahalo for the link to this
Mon May 28, 2018, 11:32 PM
May 2018

from your post on Durham's thread.

So sorry that your friend and his family has to go through all this unbearable pain. At least you were there for him as much as you could be, syringis.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
51. Hi Cha
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:12 AM
May 2018

How are you ?

I'm ashamed to have disappeared without a word.

I did what I could. It might bring a little comfort, but only a professional can efficiently help.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
52. I think it's
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:15 AM
May 2018

an excellent idea for your friend to seek professional help with the tragic situation he's in. Someone good who's not personally involved.

Rhiannon12866

(205,342 posts)
54. I am so sorry for your friend! And that you found yourself in such a tough position.
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:43 AM
May 2018

But you did the right thing - you helped all you could, but he obviously needs more help than even the best friend could provide. I hope he gets the help he needs - and that you're able to mend your relationship in time.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
60. Hi syringis
Tue May 29, 2018, 06:41 PM
May 2018

I know what you mean about feeling guilty, but it sounds like a losing situation. You did what you could, and more than many people would. I hope this person does take your advice and get professional help.

Anyway, welcome back!

DFW

(54,378 posts)
63. Re-bienvenue
Wed May 30, 2018, 09:10 AM
May 2018

Je viens de voir ce-là, n'étais au courant de rien, comme d'hab.

Il me semble que tout a été dit. Alors je ne vais répéter rien, seulement dire que ça fait bien de te revoir.


syringis

(5,101 posts)
64. Salut DFW
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:15 PM
May 2018

Merci beaucoup

Dans des cas pareils, on ne peut pas faire grand-chose, hélas. C'est du ressort des professionnels.

Et comment ça va du côté de chez toi ? J'espère que tout s'est bien passé pour ton épouse, le 2 mai.

Et le petit-fils ou petite fille ? C'est pour bientôt, j'imagine ?

DFW

(54,378 posts)
65. C'est pour le 25 mai meme!
Thu May 31, 2018, 06:16 AM
May 2018

Elle (Maya Lisa) est née vers midi vendredi passé. Tout est allé tellement bien, que ma fille est rentrée à la maison le lendemain. Ma femme est moi sont déscendus dimanche en flèche pour "se présenter." On a déjà spéculé que c'est peut-être la première personne qui passera comme président des États-Unis et chancellière de l'Allemagne quand elle a terminé ses huit années comme Président(e).

Mais elle ne sera d'un age majeur pour commencer tout ça que quand j'ai 104 ans--peu probable que j'aurais l'honneur.

Ma fille a les deux nationalités, et comme citroyen américain, passera au consulat des USA à Frankfurt pour obtenir la nationalité américaine pour sa fille. Comme le père est allemand (et ma fille aussi), la nationalité allemande est automatique. Mais normalement, les consulats des USA ne font pas des problèmes pour donner le "Certificate of Birth of an American Citizen Abroad" si un des parents se présente avec des documents crédibles. Comme ma fille a son passeport et un numéro "Social Security" vérifiable, ça devrait aller. Je dis "devrait" parce que dans l'age de Trump, avec son obsession avec les certificats de naissance, on ne sait jamais.

Avec ma femme, on pense que c'est bien passé. Ces incompétents dans la clinique n'ont toujours pas donné une réponse pour les résultats des biopsies.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
66. Felicitations !
Thu May 31, 2018, 06:30 AM
May 2018

Mes meilleurs voeux aux heureux parents et grand-parents de la future Présidente des US et future Chancelière allemande.






Allez, un peu d'ironie...Si le mari de ta fille n'est pas noir, ça devrait aller pour le "Certificate of Birth"

Mais qu'est-ce qu'on a fait au Ciel pour mériter un pareil crétin à la Maison-Blanche ?

DFW

(54,378 posts)
67. Je ne sais pas qu'est-ce qu'on a fait
Thu May 31, 2018, 06:44 AM
May 2018

Mais ça devrait être quelque chose de TRÈS méchant!

Le père (ils ne sont pas mariés) est un Allemand avec des cheveux rouges. Européen pur! Il semble plutôt irlandais qu'africain.

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