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[LynneSin]

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[Lars39]

1. I do the same thing.

It helps to ask to "leave *this* much room" and to not even breathe the word ice....it confuses them.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

2. Ask for a cup of tea, wink, and say Leave Room For Brandy

and pat your pocket like you have a flask.

You do have a brandy flask with you, right?

[HopeHoops]

3. Yeah, that was my first thought.

[Chan790]

7. We used to have to tell customers that did that...

that we had to ban them from the premises if we saw them add what we believed to be alcohol to their beverage in the store so they needed to be outside if they were going to spike their coffee or tea. (The only reason we would believe that was because they said this.)

Several states require licenses even for BYO consumption inside the cafe.

[Chan790]

4. Try this.

"I'd like a cup of tea with room and a cup of ice on the side." You might get grief for wasting the cup but at-least you'd get hot tea without the ice." Do not specify that the ice is for the tea, dumb but helpful baristas will add the ice to the tea every goddamned time.

[LynneSin]

12. Sometimes I do that but at this store they had a pitcher of ice water

That's why I went there the first place - They have that handy dandy pitcher of water nearby.

[Lionessa]

5. IT IS YOU! You are apparently being intentionally terse with servers so you can bitch.

Honestly, does it take too much extra time and attention out of your preciously snot filled day to talk to your server?

I do the same thing EXCEPT, I take 2 secs to also ask for a couple of ice cubes in a separate glass so I can add one or two after the tea is brewed.

Wow, what a jerk you seem to be, does it make you feel big to only give essentially half your order, allude to the other half, and then come here and rant like it matters?

[LynneSin]

6. You would think I was pretty clear after she first added the ice to the cup

I even said 'I didn't ask for ice'

And I didn't ask for a cup of ice at the first place since they had a pitcher of ice water that I would normally use after I allowed the tea to brew.

And yes I like to rant - what of it? Do you now feel big having come here and try to do your comuppentance on me?

[Lionessa]

8. I feel like the defender of a server who was treated badly by a customer.

That's good enough for me.

[LynneSin]

9. Defended how? I thought I was pretty darn nice up until the point of being ignored twice

As someone who waited tables for a living, I would hope someone would complain about me if I ignored a request twice. Trust me, if that was how I worked as a server I wouldn't have been able to make a living for 3 years waiting tables while trying to pay for going back to college.

As for the 2nd coffee shop, after she corrected the issue and LISTENED to what I had requested I tipped her what I normally give the coffee shop person - $1 plus whatever change I got from my bill.

But if you sleep easier at night knowing you defending someone who ignores a customer's request not once but twice hey that's godo enough for me too.

As for the post - first time in the lounge?

[Lionessa]

10. Intentional obtuseness is never nice. You simply kept expectiing your terse

little phrase to ring their bells instead of simply speaking fully and clearly about what you wanted. You've wasted considerably more time here ranting than a clear explanation of what you wanted would've taken.

And yes, when people rant about servers, but it turns out the ranter was a crap-filled customer, I do feel better calling the customer out.

[LynneSin]

11. Obviously it's not working with you

since a few posts to you I said the 2nd time 'I didn't ask for ice'

[Lionessa]

13. Yep, by thelling them again what you don't want without telling them what you do.

Saying no, doesn't explain diddly except that they got it wrong. So you continue with your obtuseness after that by not clarifying, but instead only repeating what was clearly already not quite understood to your desire.

[Chan790]

16. As a former coffeehouse manager, I have made baristas come in for remedial training for less.

I don't think LynneSin treated the server badly...and I'm generally always on the side of the servers because the customers are assholes.

The same over-helpful notion is why I once had a barista nearly put a woman with a soy allergy in the hospital--"Leave room so I can add my own non-dairy." does not mean add soymilk any more than "Leave room for ice." means "Add ice". The job is simple, but if you can't intuit simple directions' meaning to follow them exactly or need obvious things explained to you, you're dangerous or slow on the bar...and I cannot tolerate that.

Sure, it's an extra few seconds...in a busy store, those seconds can accumulate up to a several minute wait over the course of a rush.

[jobycom]

14. OMG, that sounds like a speech out of American Psycho or Zoolander!

Or the water glass scene from "The Player."



Seriously, though, yeah, if I asked someone to leave room for ice I'd follow up with "But don't add ice." Especially the second time. Someone who processes orders all day long under pressure is bound to misinterpret an instruction now and then. Two people in a row means your request is not as obvious to them as one would assume it to be.

[LynneSin]

17. I did the 2nd time

Hey, I have quirks just like everyone else

[MicaelS]

15. Never heard of this 'leave enough room for ice' concept

But then I don't drink hot tea.

But yes, I do think you're being very anal.