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Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:43 AM May 2012

Game of Thrones -- Greyjoy question

Up to this last show I thought Theon Greyjoy knew he was killing two orphan boys, with the intention of continuing his search for the real Stark boys. But he didn't confess this fact to his sister. What did I miss?

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Game of Thrones -- Greyjoy question (Original Post) Baitball Blogger May 2012 OP
I think that woul have made him look even weaker at that point, since it would petronius May 2012 #1
That's how I saw it too. OriginalGeek May 2012 #2
He couldn't admit that they got away NewJeffCT May 2012 #5
Nothing really. Chan790 May 2012 #3
thanks. That all makes sense when you put it that way. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #4

petronius

(26,602 posts)
1. I think that woul have made him look even weaker at that point, since it would
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:50 AM
May 2012

be admitting that not only had the boys escaped, but he'd failed to find them. Also, the big conflict there wasn't about the boys, it was that Yara (and Balon) weren't giving him the respect he thought he deserved for capturing Winterfell. The only thing they would have approved of is if he'd had Bran and Rickon alive, which he didn't.

Also, I think Theon just naturally goes contrarian whenever his sister says anything. So when she said he was wrong to kill Bran, he couldn't possibly admit that he hadn't. That's my take, anyway...

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
2. That's how I saw it too.
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:53 AM
May 2012

I wish I remembered the books better but it was a long time ago I read them.

but yeah, Theon couldn't possibly admit he let them get away.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. He couldn't admit that they got away
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:50 PM
May 2012

On the show, he's letting "a cripple" and "a halfwit" and a "six year old" escape from him... makes him look pretty incompetent and weak.

In the books, Bran, Rickon, Osha, Hodor and the Reeds escape (Jojen & Meera). No Reeds in the show - yet - and Rickon is only 4 in the book. It also makes him look weak & incompetent.

I think he was delusional in thinking that Yara (Asha in the books) was going to bring a huge amount of reinforcements with her so they could hold onto Winterfell for the long term and that his father would suddenly think him awesome.





 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
3. Nothing really.
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:56 AM
May 2012

Yara is his father's favorite and heir, she's going to tell Balon anything she knows.

It's not just the residents of Winterfell that Theon needs to think the Starks are dead and that he's iron-born to the core. He wants his father's respect...Balon would not respect him for losing the Starks or for not killing them in the first place. Balon believes in the iron price, you take what you want and you kill whoever you have to take it. Mercy is for the weak. Yara is rational and sees the Stark boys as valuable, her father would not.

Balon would have killed everybody in Winterfell but never would have even tried to hold it.

We do not sow.

He has no use of land or big castles.

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