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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 06:27 PM Jul 2019

You can choose six actors for the ultimate film noir. Whom do you select...?

God has granted you the opportunity to make the ultimate noir, and can select six actors in heaven (well, hopefully that's where they are) for your film. My choices? Robert Mitchum, Dan Duryea, Elisha Cook Jr, Elizabeth Scott, Gloria Grahame, and Helen Walker. How about you folks…?

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You can choose six actors for the ultimate film noir. Whom do you select...? (Original Post) First Speaker Jul 2019 OP
Kirk Douglas X 3, Jessica Walter, Sean Connery, Greata Garbo at140 Jul 2019 #1
That's interesting...some actors in noirs played twins... First Speaker Jul 2019 #2
Sean Connery is still alive. Quemado Jul 2019 #5
As is Kirk Douglas. n/t Ron Obvious Jul 2019 #10
Mine Watchfoxheadexplodes Jul 2019 #3
Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, Fred MacMurray, Joan Crawford, Ava Gardner, Gregory Peck Quemado Jul 2019 #4
Bogey, Mitchum, Robert Montgomery, Bacall, Sterling Hayden and Gene Tierney. stopbush Jul 2019 #6
Bogie, Peter Lorre, Sydney Greenstreet, Ingrid Bergman, Mary Astor, and Cary Grant cureautismnow Jul 2019 #7
Sounds like *Notorious* meets *The Maltese Falcon*... First Speaker Jul 2019 #11
Okay! Ptah Jul 2019 #8
Minnie Mouse is a terrifying Femme fatale. hunter Jul 2019 #15
My picks..... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2019 #9
Rod Steiger, Sidney Portier, George C. Scott, rurallib Jul 2019 #12
Don Knotts, Ernie Kovaks, Marjory Main, Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer, and Moe Howard Generic Brad Jul 2019 #13
William Holden Mendocino Jul 2019 #14
Brando, Dean, Hopper, Presley, Page, Kitt. Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2019 #16
Thanks...but I'm trying to imagine the film that could contain all your picks... First Speaker Jul 2019 #17
I'll buck the trend...I would pick the cast from Straight Time (though not all are deceased) pecosbob Jul 2019 #18
Robert Mitchum, Broderick Crawford... Harker Jul 2019 #19
You know, it's funny...a "straight" version of a Groucho character... First Speaker Jul 2019 #20
That's the beauty of casting. Harker Jul 2019 #22
P.S. Harker Jul 2019 #23
I'll put a spin on this gratuitous Jul 2019 #21
They have to be dead?!1 Otherwise, Joaquin PHOENIX, Cristina RICCI, DUNNAWAY, UTUSN Jul 2019 #24

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
2. That's interesting...some actors in noirs played twins...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 06:33 PM
Jul 2019

...but Kirk as triplets? You're actually making my imaginary screenwriter juices flowing...

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
4. Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, Fred MacMurray, Joan Crawford, Ava Gardner, Gregory Peck
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jul 2019

Marilyn Monroe would be a great addition to any film noir movie.

stopbush

(24,801 posts)
6. Bogey, Mitchum, Robert Montgomery, Bacall, Sterling Hayden and Gene Tierney.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 06:49 PM
Jul 2019

So many to choose from!

Of course, my list wouldn’t work to cast a movie. You need bad guys, dames and the small rôle players to make a great film noir.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
11. Sounds like *Notorious* meets *The Maltese Falcon*...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 08:46 PM
Jul 2019

...which, come to think of it, would be a real gas to watch...

hunter

(40,672 posts)
15. Minnie Mouse is a terrifying Femme fatale.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 10:22 AM
Jul 2019

I was sure Wilma Flintstone was the murderer until the very end of the film, and then OMG, you realize...

The most shocking ending ever.

People were still sitting in their seats stunned when the movie was over and the lights came on.

There were men stumbling out of the theater like they'd just been kicked in the balls with women who had inscrutable Mona Lisa smiles.

I've NEVER seen anything like it.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
13. Don Knotts, Ernie Kovaks, Marjory Main, Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer, and Moe Howard
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:31 PM
Jul 2019

I would like to have them play against type.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
17. Thanks...but I'm trying to imagine the film that could contain all your picks...
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jul 2019

...it would have to be directed by a collaboration between Welles and Tarantino--but be in black-and-white...this *is* noir, after all...

pecosbob

(8,380 posts)
18. I'll buck the trend...I would pick the cast from Straight Time (though not all are deceased)
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 11:36 AM
Jul 2019

Dustin Hoffman, Theresa Russell, Harry Dean Stanton, M. Emmet Walsh, Rita Taggart, Kathy Bates. Throw in John Cassavetes and Gena Rowlands and you've got a masterpiece in the making.

Harker

(17,771 posts)
19. Robert Mitchum, Broderick Crawford...
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jul 2019

Dana Andrews, Barbara Stanwyck, Shelley Winters, and Groucho Marx.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
20. You know, it's funny...a "straight" version of a Groucho character...
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:00 PM
Jul 2019

...would very much resemble a film noir. The real Rufus T Firefly would look a little like Trump, and a little like Willie Stark. The "real" Otis Driftwood would resemble a shady doctor out to rip off a wealthy old lady. Groucho would fit into a real noir just fine...

Harker

(17,771 posts)
22. That's the beauty of casting.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:39 PM
Jul 2019

I threw in Groucho for laughs at first, but as I was doing so, I saw him playing a small role earnestly. The boss at work, a bank manager, maybe.

His serious side was undervalued, I think.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. I'll put a spin on this
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:27 PM
Jul 2019

How about a sequel to Body Heat? It's 30 years later, William Hurt gets out of the slammer for the murder which Katherine Turner framed him. He's known almost the whole time that he was framed and that Turner pretty much got away with it. He gets in touch with Ted Danson, who played one of the cops who investigated the murder, and explains how Turner framed him. It takes a little while, but Danson overcomes his skepticism and eventually comes around to believe Hurt's story. They set off to try to find Turner, who, when last we saw her, has achieved her high school yearbook dream of living on an island somewhere.

I'm not sure where it goes from there, but what happens when they find her? Hurt, Turner and Danson are all still alive, and I think with the right screenplay, some studio could make a creditable sequel to a very fine latter-day noir movie.

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