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red dog 1

(33,063 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:07 PM Oct 2019

Do you have a favorite "obscure" 20th Century novel/novelist?

My favorite obscure 20th century novelist has to be Richard Farina, who died riding on the back of a motorcycle right before his novel "'Been Down So long It looks Like Up To Me" was released.

My favorite obscure 20th century novel is "Color Out Of Time" by Michael Shea.

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Do you have a favorite "obscure" 20th Century novel/novelist? (Original Post) red dog 1 Oct 2019 OP
Genre titles. LaurenOlimina Oct 2019 #1
Welcme to DU! red dog 1 Oct 2019 #2
I LOVE Replay. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #23
Welcome to DU! Niagara Nov 2019 #65
Richard Bach proud patriot Oct 2019 #3
Richard Bach had a near-death experience red dog 1 Oct 2019 #7
I just love his books proud patriot Oct 2019 #19
I need to re-read JLS again..I love that little book. red dog 1 Oct 2019 #43
I should too proud patriot Oct 2019 #44
John Barth (n/t) OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #4
John Barth Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #29
Walker Percy MaryMagdaline Oct 2019 #5
... OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #9
Oh yes! Love Among the Ruins! catrose Oct 2019 #26
I loved all of his books! MaryMagdaline Oct 2019 #37
Love Walker Percy! good call. GumboYaYa Nov 2019 #63
Thanks - Are you from New Orleans? MaryMagdaline Nov 2019 #72
I grew up on a cotton farm in Tensas Parish GumboYaYa Nov 2019 #81
Grew up mostly in Maryland and Georgia - bit in California MaryMagdaline Nov 2019 #82
LOL, guilty as charged GumboYaYa Nov 2019 #85
My parents went to a Jesuit college MaryMagdaline Nov 2019 #86
Jack Vance... CJ Cherryh and a whole bunch of Sci-Fi authors uriel1972 Oct 2019 #6
Which Sci-Fi authors? red dog 1 Oct 2019 #8
Oh my I've forgotten most of them... uriel1972 Oct 2019 #32
err doing the math... uriel1972 Oct 2019 #34
A good friend of mine, who was a professional writer, knew Michael Shea very well red dog 1 Oct 2019 #42
Your cookies may have been the inspiration... uriel1972 Nov 2019 #46
This is true! red dog 1 Nov 2019 #47
Stanislaw Lem... uriel1972 Oct 2019 #33
William Gibson, Harry Harrison, Terry Pratchett... and so on :) uriel1972 Oct 2019 #36
William Least Heat Moon ... GeorgeGist Oct 2019 #10
Blue Highways is a classic Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #27
Ross Thomas aka Oliver Bleek. Writer of mystery/political thrillers/spy novels/conmen TeamPooka Oct 2019 #11
Was it you and I communicating about "The Fools in Town are on Our Side" JDC Oct 2019 #13
yup. one of his best TeamPooka Oct 2019 #14
i liked it. i also had not read The Eighth Dwarf previously JDC Oct 2019 #15
that's my fave too TeamPooka Oct 2019 #17
I forgot to say thank you for the rec back then. JDC Oct 2019 #16
George McDonald Fraser - The Flashman Series JDC Oct 2019 #12
I don't think of Geordie as "obscure..." malthaussen Oct 2019 #38
Wolfgang Borchert LiberalLoner Oct 2019 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Oct 2019 #20
Cordwainer Smith. Any of his science fiction novels or short stories. Glorfindel Oct 2019 #21
This, times a thousand! First Speaker Oct 2019 #24
Carson McCULLERS: Reflections in a Golden Eye; Heart/Lonely Hunter; Member/Wedding UTUSN Oct 2019 #22
Heart is in my top 10 favs. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #52
Stewart O'Nan. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #30
John Kennedy Toole stevil Oct 2019 #28
Richard Powers Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #31
I was gonna post him! consider_this Nov 2019 #58
I loved your last sentence Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #61
WOW! I am jealous! consider_this Nov 2019 #66
His ability to turn a long phrase or sentence is really amazing Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #78
Google knows! consider_this Nov 2019 #77
I'm a staunch reader of children's, autobiographies and horror novels Niagara Oct 2019 #35
Childrens' Literature TuxedoKat Nov 2019 #60
Thank you, TuxedoKat Niagara Nov 2019 #67
Re: Shirley Jackson have you read her funny stuff? yellowdogintexas Nov 2019 #87
So, if Farina is your boy... malthaussen Oct 2019 #39
Have not read it, but I'll see if I can order it from the library...It sounds great! red dog 1 Oct 2019 #40
"Farewell Horizontal" by K.W. Jeter red dog 1 Oct 2019 #41
George R. Stewart - Earth Abides Brother Buzz Oct 2019 #45
+++ Love that book. Binkie The Clown Nov 2019 #53
I love that book--read it within 24 hours. Couldn't put it down. Nt raccoon Nov 2019 #74
"The Falling Woman" by Pat Murphy red dog 1 Nov 2019 #48
K.W. Jeter red dog 1 Nov 2019 #49
Not really "obscure" but "Confederate General from Big Sur" by Richard Brautigan MatthewHatesTrump2 Nov 2019 #50
D.H.Lawrence..... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2019 #51
City of Night by John Rechy emmaverybo Nov 2019 #54
not really obscure but he's Portuguese so maybe unkown to some Kurt V. Nov 2019 #55
Betty Smith smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #56
William Kotzwinkle... Harker Nov 2019 #57
"Cradle" by Alan Brennrrt red dog 1 Nov 2019 #59
Not sure if it qualifies as "obscure" if he won the Nobel Prize for Literature GumboYaYa Nov 2019 #62
Kildare Dobbs MatthewHatesTrump2 Nov 2019 #64
One of my favorite short story writers is Ursula K. LeGuin MatthewHatesTrump2 Nov 2019 #68
Novel: Earth Abides, by George Stewart lastlib Nov 2019 #69
Three No longer available Novels Wolf Frankula Nov 2019 #70
"The Charwoman's Daughter" by James Stephens red dog 1 Nov 2019 #71
I don't know if he counts as "obscure" DFW Nov 2019 #73
Langston Hughes red dog 1 Nov 2019 #75
Anthony Burgess: Earthly Powers malchickiwick Nov 2019 #76
Would Carson McCullers be considered "obscure"? MatthewHatesTrump2 Nov 2019 #79
Jim Harrison MatthewHatesTrump2 Nov 2019 #80
Neither is all that obscure discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2019 #83
"Disturbing the Peace" by Richard Yates is a good read. MatthewHatesTrump2 Nov 2019 #84

red dog 1

(33,063 posts)
7. Richard Bach had a near-death experience
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:38 PM
Oct 2019

He was landing his small aircraft at a private airport when his landing gear clipped some power lines and landed upside down in a field, taking down two poles and sparking a grass fire.
He suffered a severe head injury and a broken shoulder, but survived the crash.

catrose

(5,365 posts)
26. Oh yes! Love Among the Ruins!
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:54 AM
Oct 2019

He was the first author I met. He was friends with my English teacher, and came to talk to us after we read The Movie Goer. He started by apologizing for the cover.

GumboYaYa

(6,001 posts)
81. I grew up on a cotton farm in Tensas Parish
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:58 PM
Nov 2019

Went to college at Loyola NO and law school at LSU. How about you?

MaryMagdaline

(7,964 posts)
82. Grew up mostly in Maryland and Georgia - bit in California
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:53 PM
Nov 2019

Maryland influenced me the most - accent and politics. Born in Michigan, though.

Tensas Parish, Loyola sound VERY Walker Percy-ish. LSU sounds very Huey Long-ish.

Although Catholic, I went to a small Baptist college and law school - Mercer U in Macon, Georgia, because that is where my family lived at the time and where I could afford to go.
Walker Percy was very popular in the Christianity and Philosophy departments when I attended Mercer 77 to 81 undergraduate school.

GumboYaYa

(6,001 posts)
85. LOL, guilty as charged
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:13 PM
Nov 2019

I was a philosophy major at Loyola. Spent a bit of time with the Jesuits.

MaryMagdaline

(7,964 posts)
86. My parents went to a Jesuit college
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:19 PM
Nov 2019

University of Detroit. There’s a certain mindset from that background. In the second half of the 20th century, not at all a bad mindset

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
32. Oh my I've forgotten most of them...
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:00 AM
Oct 2019

Michael Moorcock for starters, the two I listed, Michael Shea of course, gosh darn, so many over the years. I can't recall them Alan Dean Foster since I was 5 for Splinter of the Mind's Eye, one of the many ret-conned Star Wars books lol.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
34. err doing the math...
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:04 AM
Oct 2019

Splinter would have come out in Australia when I was about 9.. 1981 I think aaaaaaaaargh so long ago.

red dog 1

(33,063 posts)
42. A good friend of mine, who was a professional writer, knew Michael Shea very well
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:09 PM
Oct 2019

I knew Michael from seeing him at my friend's house many times.

He liked to smoke reefer, a lot.

One time, I sent my writer friend a box of pot cookies, (which I used to bake myself), and Michael Shea ate them all

red dog 1

(33,063 posts)
47. This is true!
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 08:19 PM
Nov 2019

I was really angry at Micheal when I heard about it, because my friend also could have gotten inspired to write a story or two from those cookies.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
33. Stanislaw Lem...
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:02 AM
Oct 2019

The Cyberiad.. one of my favourite poems, His Prix the Pilot's are also very, very , very good.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
36. William Gibson, Harry Harrison, Terry Pratchett... and so on :)
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:33 AM
Oct 2019

Oh Fritz Lieber.. The Unbeheaded King series was hilarious.

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
27. Blue Highways is a classic
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:26 AM
Oct 2019

I recommend to anyone planning a road trip - or if they want a great read.

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
11. Ross Thomas aka Oliver Bleek. Writer of mystery/political thrillers/spy novels/conmen
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:48 PM
Oct 2019

If you like Elmore Leonard you will like Ross Thomas.

JDC

(11,111 posts)
13. Was it you and I communicating about "The Fools in Town are on Our Side"
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:51 PM
Oct 2019

a couple of years back?

malthaussen

(18,571 posts)
38. I don't think of Geordie as "obscure..."
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:36 AM
Oct 2019

... for awhile there, before Pratchett took over, he was the most popular author in Britain.

-- Mal

Response to red dog 1 (Original post)

Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
21. Cordwainer Smith. Any of his science fiction novels or short stories.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:47 PM
Oct 2019

The man was a much underappreciated genius.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
24. This, times a thousand!
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:26 AM
Oct 2019

...I would bet that Dr Linebarger is the one SF writer most likely to be read in 500 years. His work hasn't aged at all, and indeed, reads better today than when he wrote it. A classic underappreciated genius...

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
22. Carson McCULLERS: Reflections in a Golden Eye; Heart/Lonely Hunter; Member/Wedding
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 11:21 PM
Oct 2019

Really, the movie of Reflections is totally under-estimated.

Don't laugh, but the cast was never better: Liz; Marlon, and the rest (Julie HARRIS, if anybody must know). The names sound so trite, but HUSTON kept them smooth.







PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
25. Stewart O'Nan.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:37 AM
Oct 2019

He's been fairly prolific, and doesn't seem well known. His book The Good Wife, which has zero resemblance to or connection with the TV series by the same name, is one of my favorites. It's about a woman whose husband has been robbing houses, and in one robbery things go horribly awry and the homeowner dies. He winds up serving 25 years to life, although it's never clear if he or his partner in robbery was the one who killed the old lady. Meanwhile, the wife remains true to him, despite her family's insistence she divorce him. She also raises their son (she was pregnant when the robbery occurred) alone. It's a powerful book.

Others of his I like include Last Night at the Lobster and Emily Alone.

Another little known book I like is Time on My Hands by Peter Delacorte. A travel writer meets a mysterious man while visiting an obscure museum in Paris. The man says he has a time machine and would like our hero to go back in time and keep Ronald Reagan from becoming President. The book came out in 1997, when many of us agreed that Reagan had been our very worst President ever. I read it back then, and have re-read it several times over the years, and what with W, and now Trump, Reagan just doesn't seem so bad. Our hero decides not to do something so boring as kill Reagan; instead he travels back to 1938 with the intention of getting Reagan a better career. I had thought Delacorte was writing a sequel, but alas none has shown up yet.

Another largely unknown alternate history is Making History by Stephen Fry. By putting a contraceptive into a well in the town where Hitler's parents lived, he's never born. Alas, an even worse person emerges to head the Nazi party and things are worse than ever. Quite good.

Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #25)

stevil

(1,541 posts)
28. John Kennedy Toole
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:27 AM
Oct 2019

Took his life after his novel A Confederacy of Dunces was rejected by multiple publishers. His Mum then brought it to someone who who got it published. He eventually won a Pulitzer.

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
31. Richard Powers
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:40 AM
Oct 2019

He won the National Book award for fiction in 2006 for the Echo Maker and a Pulitzer Prize so he's not obscure among critics. I think his topics involving technology and grand humanistic themes.

consider_this

(2,847 posts)
58. I was gonna post him!
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:46 AM
Nov 2019

You beat me to it. I've enjoyed many of his books, after being gripped by first one I read, 'Goldbug Variations'.
He has an artful ability to weave together science, arts, and the human spirit in interesting narratives.
Actually, I'm currently reading "The Overstory". So far trees are the scaffolding of the included stories.

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
61. I loved your last sentence
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 11:42 AM
Nov 2019

Thanks for posting and great to hear that others appreciate his work. I have to admit that part of my reason for mentioning him is because I got to meet him more than once. Just a really nice man. Through his distinctive. ground-breaking work people might think he is aloof but he is the opposite. If I had to use one word to describe him personally, it would be gracious.

consider_this

(2,847 posts)
66. WOW! I am jealous!
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:55 PM
Nov 2019

I would be awestruck to meet him. I marvel at the grasp and depth he has on so many subjects, and especially scientific things - but with so much heart I think he is surely charmed. I guess I am predisposed to love his work, as his subjects are many of my own loves, but the way he weaves things together - genius! And he can certainly turn a phrase (a very very long amazing one many times). Just love his work!

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
78. His ability to turn a long phrase or sentence is really amazing
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:32 PM
Nov 2019

Of course Faulkner was the master of this but Powers' ability to do so is near that level. I say that as a former writer who was just amazed at it and know I could never do it.

BTW, if you ever do meet him I am sure he would try to make you feel comfortable.

consider_this

(2,847 posts)
77. Google knows!
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:24 PM
Nov 2019

Well, apparently since I weighed in on this topic, Google just alerted me on my phone to a video of interest - looks very recent.

Richard Powers speaking: 2019 National Book Festival



Only 15 min in and he is great! - Enjoy!

Niagara

(11,851 posts)
35. I'm a staunch reader of children's, autobiographies and horror novels
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:29 AM
Oct 2019

There are books that I haven't yet discovered and books that I can't find. Since I'm somewhat younger than most here, I'm not sure what novels/novelist would be considered "obscure", since the popularity of novels/novelists change over time with each new generation.

Some children's novels that I enjoy would be The Anne of Green Gables book series by L.M. Montgomery, The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus by L. Frank Baum and Where the Red Fern Grows by Wilson Rawls. There's a short story from Winston Estes called Another Part of the House. Not necessarily a children's story, but told from a child's point of view.

A few years ago, I was at my public library and checked out the book The Other Mrs. Kennedy by Jerry Oppenheimer. I was so enthralled that couldn't put it down and I injured my index finger from holding on to the massive book for long periods of time.

Besides Stephen King and Dean Koontz, I like Anne Rice. Not only do I like and own her Vampire Chronicles series but I also like The Feast of All Saints. Another horror/mystery novelist that I discovered in Jr. High was Shirley Jackson. I wish that she hadn't passed away so young, it would have been nice to read more of her novels.

As you can see, I have many favorites and it was difficult for me to keep a short and possibly obscure list.

TuxedoKat

(3,843 posts)
60. Childrens' Literature
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019

Did you ever read any of Edgar Eager's children's novels? They are for ages 8-12, but I remember them fondly. Eager thought E. Nesbit was the best children's author but I never read any of her work. My sister loved this one, The Ship that Flew by Hilda Lewis. A coworker raved about this one, The Bears of Blue River by Charles Major.

I've read the Anne series, but will check out the others you mention. Have read many Stephen King and Anne Rice novels, but never Dean Koontz, not sure why.

Niagara

(11,851 posts)
67. Thank you, TuxedoKat
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 11:02 PM
Nov 2019

I have never read any of the Edgar Eager's children's novels. I wrote down all the books and authors that you mentioned so that I can try to get my hands on them. I had forgotten to mention that Lisa Jane Smith wrote books when I was in high school that didn't become popular until those books were turned into a television series. Those books and the t.v series were The Vampire Diaries and I still read them to this day.


Dean Koontz writes a little bit of everything and has several different pen names. I hope that you get a chance to check out some of his work.

yellowdogintexas

(23,694 posts)
87. Re: Shirley Jackson have you read her funny stuff?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:30 AM
Nov 2019

Life Among the Savages and Raising Demons are about raising her large family in a drafty old house in Vermont.

I am not one to re-read books but I've probably read these at least a dozen times since I discovered them at 12.

And YES she did die way too young.

I love Anne Rice but my favorite is the Mayfair Witches series.

malthaussen

(18,571 posts)
39. So, if Farina is your boy...
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:42 AM
Oct 2019

... presumably you've read Positively Fourth Street, David Hanju's "life and times" of Farina, Dylan, and the Baez sisters? I thought it was pretty good.

-- Mal

Brother Buzz

(39,900 posts)
45. George R. Stewart - Earth Abides
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:56 PM
Oct 2019

His 1949 post-apocalyptic novel Earth Abides was my first adventure into Science Fiction as a young teen. I read Earth Abides a few years ago and enjoyed every bit as much as I did as a kid fifty years earlier.

Firm and Storm we good reads in my youth, too

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,897 posts)
51. D.H.Lawrence.....
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 05:50 PM
Nov 2019

Lady Chatterly's Lover....

I loved how he have his characters such fleshed out personas, complete with flaws, aspirations, and gut wrenching humanity.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
56. Betty Smith
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 08:48 PM
Nov 2019

Author of "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn". I first read it in 7th grade and have probably read it at least 12 times since then. It was probably my one of my favorite childhood books (there are others, but they would not be considered "obscure&quot .

It's probably not that well known, but it was popular enough to be made into a film back in the late 40's. She wrote the book in the 40's but it was set back in the early part of the 20th century and was about a young, impoverished girl's coming of age in Brooklyn, NY with her beloved alcoholic father, her hardworking, but stern mother and her resilient, yet less sensitive and intelligent, younger brother.

GumboYaYa

(6,001 posts)
62. Not sure if it qualifies as "obscure" if he won the Nobel Prize for Literature
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:11 PM
Nov 2019

but one of my favorite writers that few Americans have read is Naguib Mahfouz. His depictions of Arabic culture are mind bending.

MatthewHatesTrump2

(915 posts)
68. One of my favorite short story writers is Ursula K. LeGuin
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:33 PM
Nov 2019

She has been in "Fantasy and Science Fiction" (monthly) many times

lastlib

(28,269 posts)
69. Novel: Earth Abides, by George Stewart
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:25 AM
Nov 2019

Great novel! One of my top three all time, along with The City And The Stars and Childhood's End

Wolf Frankula

(3,835 posts)
70. Three No longer available Novels
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:04 AM
Nov 2019

"Flames of the Dragon" by J.G. Hunter.

"A Town Like Jones'n" by Will West (pseud)

"Irrintzia" by J.M Etxeberria.

Wolf

DFW

(60,186 posts)
73. I don't know if he counts as "obscure"
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:45 AM
Nov 2019

I liked the few of Rodney Whitaker's books I had read. "The Summer of Katya," "The Eiger Sanction," "Incident at Twenty Mile," and "Shibumi" are my favorites. Completely different themes every time. He usually wrote under the pen name of "Trevanian."

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
76. Anthony Burgess: Earthly Powers
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:58 PM
Nov 2019

While most know Clockwork Orange, that is not even close to being AB's greatest work. EP, I think qualifies, but I'd also highly recommend the Enderby series (hilarious!), The Wanting Seed, Napoleon Symphony, Nothing Like the Sun, Dead Man in Deptford, Kingdom of the Wicked, etc., etc.

Burgess probably should have won a Nobel at some point.

https://www.anthonyburgess.org/

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