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50 years old and still the most impressive, menacing looking plane ever engineered (Original Post) packman Dec 2019 OP
LA to NY in six minutes The Blue Flower Dec 2019 #1
I think it was closer to one hour and six minutes Zorro Dec 2019 #5
Er, closer to sixty minutes. But still damn fast. ZZenith Dec 2019 #7
Interesting, how time catches up. 3Hotdogs Dec 2019 #32
Right, firing through the arc of the propellors caraher Dec 2019 #82
There's also a more modern example caraher Dec 2019 #84
"SLOW DOWN, DAMMIT!" I think is the lesson here. ZZenith Dec 2019 #86
More to the point, it flew faster than anything that could shoot at it caraher Dec 2019 #83
That's upwards of 28,000 mph. Codeine Dec 2019 #35
Right you are, the Blackbird has very briefly hit Mach 3.5 or approx 2593 mph. MasonDreams Dec 2019 #55
What's your favorite color? GeoWilliam750 Dec 2019 #57
Ni! nt Codeine Dec 2019 #63
Closer to 60 years now Zorro Dec 2019 #2
I always found it interesting the U-2 outlived the SR-71 Brother Buzz Dec 2019 #21
I had one of these bad boys use me for target-practice once...... lastlib Dec 2019 #22
"....and it's supporting you, then it's totally angelic looking" sarge43 Dec 2019 #23
Funky looking, but deadly El Mimbreno Dec 2019 #30
I got to see one of those landing Crabby Appleton Dec 2019 #31
AN-225 taking of at DIA.... diverdownjt Dec 2019 #74
i saw one once at dryden research centre in southern ca whilst following a space shuttle . AllaN01Bear Dec 2019 #3
I found something like that on the beach once. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2019 #4
+1 Blue_Tires Dec 2019 #6
Is it a SR-71? The Wielding Truth Dec 2019 #8
Great video. Dem2theMax Dec 2019 #29
LOL! lunatica Dec 2019 #42
Ha! That was fun. blaze Dec 2019 #58
Great story and video SnowCritter Dec 2019 #66
Hilarious! Thanks for sharing that. nt crickets Dec 2019 #68
My vote would be for the B 52 gibraltar72 Dec 2019 #9
I once saw a sortie of B-52s fly overhead at low altitude Zorro Dec 2019 #10
Carpet bombing are us. gibraltar72 Dec 2019 #17
Once saw a B-52 on a *very* low practice run on a military training route in Nebraska. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #24
I once saw James48 Dec 2019 #41
I've seen B-1s doing the same thing in ND Major Nikon Dec 2019 #44
One of the amazing things about the B-52 is its longevity NoPasaran Dec 2019 #48
To me the F-4 Phantom always looked like it was born to kick ass. lpbk2713 Dec 2019 #11
My choice too jpak Dec 2019 #14
Yeah, that was a bad ass plane... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #25
So did I. skydive forever Dec 2019 #60
MCAS El Toro, early 70s... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #62
During the first Gulf War (91) The Wizard Dec 2019 #59
Yes. Menacing and Yet Beautiful DarthDem Dec 2019 #12
XB-70 Valkyrie. MicaelS Dec 2019 #13
She used to greet visitors driving by the National Museum of the USAF, right by Col. Glenn Highway OilemFirchen Dec 2019 #20
I've seen it a couple of times Major Nikon Dec 2019 #45
Reminder: The YF-12 was the *armed* two-seat version of the A-11. SR-71 was the later modification. eppur_se_muova Dec 2019 #15
It has the face of a peevish Daffy Duck. Ron Obvious Dec 2019 #16
I had one join on my right wing once. trof Dec 2019 #18
If you'd snapped a pic, you'd probably have been arrested... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #26
Pictures were OK, but not of the ground cart. rickford66 Dec 2019 #65
I always thought the F-86 Sabrejet was a beatifully proportioned plane. brush Dec 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Hotler Dec 2019 #19
The SR-71....The Blackbird.... ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2019 #27
Wicked cool. nt Ilsa Dec 2019 #28
Thanks burrowowl Dec 2019 #34
Pretty scary, but... B Stieg Dec 2019 #36
Me too. Aristus Dec 2019 #50
Phffffft! You can't draw big dicks in the sky with it. Kaleva Dec 2019 #37
The B-58 Hustler deserves mention. Marcuse Dec 2019 #38
True gwyllm Dec 2019 #69
I grew up around B-58s Zorro Dec 2019 #71
I remember Bunker Hill AFB gwyllm Dec 2019 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author PuffedMica Dec 2019 #39
This biplane looks menacing to me! Ptah Dec 2019 #40
You can get pretty close to one for free, here in Huntsville. House of Roberts Dec 2019 #43
Glad to know she is still there, I still think they should bring her indoors. MasonDreams Dec 2019 #54
Late DH worked on a component of that plane, marybourg Dec 2019 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #47
What Made the SR-71 Blackbird Such a Badass Plane Glaisne Dec 2019 #49
It was built with titanium which came from - wait for it - Russia. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2019 #76
wow! what is it? samnsara Dec 2019 #51
Knew a retired Air Force mechanic who worked on these randr Dec 2019 #52
Even before clicking, I knew it was the SR-71 yonder Dec 2019 #53
My wife and I love this plane more than any other. marble falls Dec 2019 #56
Kansas Cosmosphere has one hanging from the ceiling! lastlib Dec 2019 #61
I knew one of the engineers who worked on that beast. hunter Dec 2019 #64
Fun fact: It was actually supposed to be called an RS-71 William Seger Dec 2019 #67
There's one at the Udvar Hazy center of the National Air and Space Museum IronLionZion Dec 2019 #70
My favorite museums William Seger Dec 2019 #73
Here's Queen Amadala's space ship from Star Wars LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2019 #75
It was quite the upgrade for the X-men! LaurenOlimina Dec 2019 #80
I rode a few times at a farm near the Ottawa airport. I was out when all of a sudden i noticed applegrove Dec 2019 #77
The original skunkworks building is part of the office campus I work at. Kablooie Dec 2019 #78
Fun fact about that spyplane's titanium fuselage. Guess where the titanium came from... LaurenOlimina Dec 2019 #79
And the only weapons it carried Warren_Pointe Dec 2019 #81
Favorite SR-71 story, you've read this one somewhere right? roscoeroscoe Dec 2019 #85
Aah yes, Major Shul and the boys bluedeathray Feb 2020 #87

The Blue Flower

(5,433 posts)
1. LA to NY in six minutes
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:45 PM
Dec 2019

They took the Blackbird out over the Pacific Ocean, got it up to top speed, and then clocked it from LA to NY. An incredible feat of engineering.

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
7. Er, closer to sixty minutes. But still damn fast.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:57 PM
Dec 2019

And, while menacing in appearance, it carried no armament because it flew faster than bullets.

3Hotdogs

(12,323 posts)
32. Interesting, how time catches up.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:06 PM
Dec 2019

WW I planes were also shooting themselves down. I believe they were shooting their own propellers.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
82. Right, firing through the arc of the propellors
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:10 AM
Dec 2019

Some early aces put armor plate on the back of the propellers to deflect bullets, but eventually engineers developed a gearing mechanism that would interrupt the firing of the gun for rounds that would otherwise strike the the blades

caraher

(6,278 posts)
84. There's also a more modern example
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:15 AM
Dec 2019
The Navy's first supersonic fighter managed to shoot itself down



The test pilot had assumed he had been the victim of a bird strike, but the accident investigation revealed another cause: in his fast descent, the pilot had actually flown into his own stream of 20-millimeter cannon rounds. Although the rounds had a head start (the air speed of the aircraft plus the muzzle velocity of the rounds) they slowed quickly due to drag passing through the surrounding air. The rounds decelerated, the Tiger accelerated, and the two reunited in the sky, with fatal (for the aircraft) consequences.


caraher

(6,278 posts)
83. More to the point, it flew faster than anything that could shoot at it
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:13 AM
Dec 2019

Bullets fired from a plane as fast as the SR-71 would have been quite deadly - you *add* the muzzle speed to the firing plane's speed. But nothing could catch it. And faster ground-based missiles had impossibly brief intercept windows.

It's pretty common for recon aircraft to be unarmed. The U-2 was much slower, relying on altitude for safety, and was also unarmed. Recon variants of fighters also typically had no weapons; they were stripped down for maximum speed.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
55. Right you are, the Blackbird has very briefly hit Mach 3.5 or approx 2593 mph.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:47 PM
Dec 2019

But it would burn up at that speed, too much air friction. 2000-2200mph is Max fast to cruise.

Apollo10 returning from the moon May 26 1969 (fastest humans) reached 24,791mph

The air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow depends on whether it's an African or European swallow.
The fastest level flight bird is a spine tailed swallow over 100mph.
But the periguine falcon can hit 240 mph in a scream of a dive.

Zorro

(15,722 posts)
2. Closer to 60 years now
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:51 PM
Dec 2019

Awesome plane, but for me the most sinister-looking plane is the U-2 (another Kelly Johnson/Lockheed Skunk Works brainchild).

Brother Buzz

(36,374 posts)
21. I always found it interesting the U-2 outlived the SR-71
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:22 AM
Dec 2019

KISS, baby!

Another KISS airplane on my sinister-looking list is the A-10 Warthog. That is unless you're on the ground and it's supporting you, then it's totally angelic looking

lastlib

(23,149 posts)
22. I had one of these bad boys use me for target-practice once......
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:38 AM
Dec 2019

(not live-fire, of course, or I wouldn't be here!)

I'm driving down a nearly-deserted road that runs along the edge of an Army base, just after sunrise on a Saturday morning, headed to the start of a backpacking weekend, when I hear this scrEAMing sound--and I thought my car was coming apart! I hit the brakes, right in the road, shifted to park, shut off the motor, and opened my door--only to see this Warthog starting to climb out of a dive--I doubt he was 200 feet above me when I first saw him! He climbed to maybe a couple thousand feet before banking off into the sunrise and departing.

I never want to be in the sights of another one!

El Mimbreno

(777 posts)
30. Funky looking, but deadly
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:56 PM
Dec 2019

Built around a gatling gun that fires bullets weighted with dead uranium (heavier than lead). Designed for close ground support, pilot sits in a tub of titanium armor and it can be shot to pieces and still fly.

Crabby Appleton

(5,231 posts)
31. I got to see one of those landing
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:31 PM
Dec 2019

at bien Hoa AFB when I was pulling guard duty nearby. Very cool aircraft.

diverdownjt

(701 posts)
74. AN-225 taking of at DIA....
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 03:28 PM
Dec 2019

Christmas eve in a snow storm. I used to work for Integrated Airline Services.
My wife had the job after I left and was coordinating fueling and deicing and working with
the crew. She couldn't get any of her crew to show up, and I wasn't going to let her do it by herself. I was working for one of the big cargo airlines now and still had security clearance.
She couldn't get any of the contractors to come and deice the plane, so I kept calling for her
while transporting the crew out to the plane 3 at a time(13 total). Each guy had 20+bags of
stuff from Walmart(blue jeans,t-shirts,food stuff). No one would take the Captains Russian credit cards or even American cash. Finally I talked Continental into doing it, so when I got the last crew out I told one of them and he said go tell the Captain. This plane tilts it's nose up to load so when it's down for flight the only way up is an extension ladder tied in place. I get up to the cockpit I tell the Captain that I got a taker on the deal for cash. He looks at me and says "I don't need f-ing deice, thank you now get off my plane". I was like" Capt. please don't do this. Heavy snow coming down horizontally. He said Merry Christmas now get off. Now I think I'm about to witness an aviation disaster, but instead I get a lesson from an experienced Pilot who knows his plane and knows what it can do. This guy no doubt has flown his plane Siberia and what not, so this is just spitting in the wind to him. I get back to the van and we watch as they taxi up to the runway and turn north into the wind and punch it. They get up to speed and we can barely see it now, but he pulls up the nose and tons of snow fall off all at once and the Antinov(largest cargo plane in the world) leaps into the air
and disappears on it's way to Baghdad, via JFK, Spain, Egypt.

AllaN01Bear

(17,987 posts)
3. i saw one once at dryden research centre in southern ca whilst following a space shuttle .
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:51 PM
Dec 2019

inspecting heat resistance tiles . bb was the only aircraft that could keep up with the shuttle .

The Wielding Truth

(11,411 posts)
8. Is it a SR-71?
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 02:16 PM
Dec 2019

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Zorro

(15,722 posts)
10. I once saw a sortie of B-52s fly overhead at low altitude
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 02:29 PM
Dec 2019

A very menacing sight indeed. I shudder to think about being on the receiving end of one of their bombing missions.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)
24. Once saw a B-52 on a *very* low practice run on a military training route in Nebraska.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:09 PM
Dec 2019

It was startling, to say the least.

James48

(4,427 posts)
41. I once saw
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:47 PM
Dec 2019

A B-52, utilizing ground hugging radar, fly about 200 feet over the top of me, in the dark, in the pouring down rain, in central Germany, at about 5 in the morning, directly down the middle of the US Army base I was stationed at. (Wuerzburg)


We had been out doing morning physical training shortly after 5 a.m., when the Buff snuck up on us and scared the bejeezes out of us!

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
44. I've seen B-1s doing the same thing in ND
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:50 AM
Dec 2019

There’s a lot of low-level training routes out west of here with a lot of activity. Never had enough interest to camp out under one, but I’ve heard of those who do.

I’ve been buzzed a couple of times flying VFR through MOAs. I tend to avoid them during the week.

NoPasaran

(17,291 posts)
48. One of the amazing things about the B-52 is its longevity
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:42 PM
Dec 2019

There are guys flying B-52s today whose grandfathers flew them. And chances are they'll have grandkids fly them.

The Wizard

(12,535 posts)
59. During the first Gulf War (91)
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:03 PM
Dec 2019

Some F4s were armed with smart bombs and performed as well as the newer jets. The F4 set the standard for fighter jets today. Many pilots preferred them as they were easier to fly.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
12. Yes. Menacing and Yet Beautiful
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 02:44 PM
Dec 2019

I have had a professional scale replica of the SR-71 in my living room for about 25 years. Awesome, awesome plane. I wish they still flew.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
20. She used to greet visitors driving by the National Museum of the USAF, right by Col. Glenn Highway
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:55 PM
Dec 2019


I loved seeing her on my daily commute.

Moved inside now:



eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
15. Reminder: The YF-12 was the *armed* two-seat version of the A-11. SR-71 was the later modification.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 07:34 PM
Dec 2019

The YF-12 "interceptor" never saw combat. It would have been the most expensive combat plane ever.

trof

(54,256 posts)
18. I had one join on my right wing once.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 08:28 PM
Dec 2019

I was going into Edwards in an F-84 back in the early 70s.
Approach called and asked if a Blackbird could join up with me.
Well sure.

He slid up on my right wing.
"Hi Speedy 11. I flew those in Korea."
"Small world."

Wish I'd had a camera.

rickford66

(5,521 posts)
65. Pictures were OK, but not of the ground cart.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 09:09 PM
Dec 2019

That would let "others" know where it would be flying out of. An engineer I worked with came back with photos and he told me this. Tell me he was wrong, but he had the photos. He was working on the simulator at some site.

brush

(53,740 posts)
33. I always thought the F-86 Sabrejet was a beatifully proportioned plane.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:10 PM
Dec 2019

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Response to packman (Original post)

Kaleva

(36,248 posts)
37. Phffffft! You can't draw big dicks in the sky with it.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:45 PM
Dec 2019

As you can only fly straight with very wide turns.

Marcuse

(7,446 posts)
38. The B-58 Hustler deserves mention.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:13 PM
Dec 2019

[link:http://www.ddmcd.com/books/b58| According to this knowledgeable author it was all due to internal Pentagon politics: the B-52 guys ganged up on the B-58 guys and the B-52 guys won. This was despite analyses and assessments that seemed to show the B-58 to be a superior warfighting system.

gwyllm

(3 posts)
69. True
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:58 AM
Dec 2019

As an old Air Force vet, I agree that the B-58 Hustler is the most awesome plane I've ever seen fly.

Zorro

(15,722 posts)
71. I grew up around B-58s
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 04:48 PM
Dec 2019

My father was stationed at Bunker Hill AFB for 5 years in the early 60s. Beautiful, sleek aircraft, but apparently not easy to handle at low speeds. Seemed there was always a crash or two every year there.

Its mission was to penetrate Soviet air space at Mach 2 and drop a nuclear weapon; there wasn't much room for standard ordnance in the bomb-carrying pod below the airframe, so the B-52 was the better choice for more conventional munitions.

gwyllm

(3 posts)
72. I remember Bunker Hill AFB
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:19 PM
Dec 2019

My father was a field engineer for Univac, which supplied the mainframe computers at the base. While my dad worked
there, I spent the 1966-67 school year in High School in Kokomo. Dad was also an Air Force vet from the late 1940s, he's
still going strong at 91.

Response to packman (Original post)

House of Roberts

(5,162 posts)
43. You can get pretty close to one for free, here in Huntsville.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:17 PM
Dec 2019

It's in the Space and Rocket Museum parking lot.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
54. Glad to know she is still there, I still think they should bring her indoors.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:52 PM
Dec 2019

The fun fact that always reset all my circuit breakers is the leaking gas tank. By design every SR-71 , when on the ground, leaks fuel. Why?
The plane flys SO FAST that the friction of the air (thin air @80,000ft up) heats up the plane causing it to become approximately 18 inches longer! The fuel tanks seal up once she gets up to speed !!

Also last time I checked the SR-71's top speed and altitude ceiling was classified information.

When I was a kid there in HSV you could climb into the cockpit of a Mercury capsule, to be inside a spacecraft that had been in orbit!

Response to packman (Original post)

76. It was built with titanium which came from - wait for it - Russia.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 04:30 AM
Dec 2019

That [2,200 mph] top speed meant the average temperature of the plane's skin was upwards of 600 degrees. At that temperature, it couldn't be built with aluminum, so it had to be built with 93 percent titanium – and that titanium came from Russia.

The Russians never knew to whom they were selling the titanium, but they sold enough to build 32 SR-71 Blackbirds — planes used primarily to spy on the Soviet Union.

source

randr

(12,409 posts)
52. Knew a retired Air Force mechanic who worked on these
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:11 PM
Dec 2019

He told tales and described how they took the plane completely apart for inspection each flight. He was one proud vet.

hunter

(38,302 posts)
64. I knew one of the engineers who worked on that beast.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 08:21 PM
Dec 2019

Never said a word about it until he and the plane were long retired.

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
67. Fun fact: It was actually supposed to be called an RS-71
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:45 AM
Dec 2019

Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:21 AM - Edit history (2)

... but when Reagan announced it, he called it the SR-71, so they renamed it.

Edit: I have to correct myself. First, it wasn't Reagan; it was LBJ. Second, SR-71 was the correct name -- SR meaning strategic reconnaissance. What happened was, in those days, a stenographer took shorthand notes of presidential speeches, and it was the stenographer who transcribed it as RS-71 all three times that Johnson said SR-71. That version of the speech was handed out to some reporters, and when someone noticed that it said RS-71, an urban legend was born. (I misremembered the president, but I believe I first heard the tale on the old Discovery Channel show Wings.)

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
70. There's one at the Udvar Hazy center of the National Air and Space Museum
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 02:19 PM
Dec 2019

I think it still holds the record for fastest plane.

The B-2 Spirit is also menacing but enemies wouldn't see it coming at them.

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
73. My favorite museums
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 05:03 AM
Dec 2019

A few years ago, I literally took a couple thousand pictures there and the main museum on the Mall. The hard drive I had them on crapped out, so now I must go back!

75. Here's Queen Amadala's space ship from Star Wars
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 04:22 AM
Dec 2019


See any resemblance to the SR-71?

How about this aircraft (coincidently named the Blackbird) flown by the X-men?



This is third iteration of the X-men aircraft:



It's amazing how a 50 year design can still inspire futurists.
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
80. It was quite the upgrade for the X-men!
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 07:37 PM
Dec 2019
?q=50&fit=crop&w=738&h=1091

Ten Years Later...

?q=50&fit=crop&w=738&h=1068

?q=50&fit=crop&w=738&h=1071

applegrove

(118,486 posts)
77. I rode a few times at a farm near the Ottawa airport. I was out when all of a sudden i noticed
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 04:47 AM
Dec 2019

Last edited Sat Dec 7, 2019, 05:29 AM - Edit history (1)

one overhead. It was a stealth bomber flying low. I don't recall what my horse thought of it. That was about 26 years ago.

Kablooie

(18,608 posts)
78. The original skunkworks building is part of the office campus I work at.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 04:48 AM
Dec 2019

In the 1990s it was used by Disney animation.
It now houses Kaiser Permanente business offices.

 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
79. Fun fact about that spyplane's titanium fuselage. Guess where the titanium came from...
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 07:32 PM
Dec 2019

The Soviet Union. Bought from exporters by various shell corporations to hide the ultimate destination.

http://www.mining.com/bbc-future-sr-71-blackbird-the-cold-wars-ultimate-spy-plane-11725/

“The airplane is 92% titanium inside and out.

“Back when they were building the airplane the United States didn’t have the ore supplies – an ore called rutile ore. It’s a very sandy soil and it’s only found in very few parts of the world.

“The major supplier of the ore was the USSR. Working through Third World countries and bogus operations, they were able to get the rutile ore shipped to the United States to build the SR-71.”

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