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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsFamily Redux: I had a wonderful kind of angry bitter political argument with my son.
Once when we were first married, my father and my stepmother - who had been married to my father for less than six years - came to visit us in California.
My father and I hadn't seen each other for about a year or so at the time, and we loved each other very much.
We had this big deal screaming argument with each other over the war in Vietnam - which had been over for more than a decade at the time - and my stepmother told my father that she thought they were going to get thrown out of our apartment and would have to go to a hotel.
My father just laughed and remarked about how proud he was of how I kept pulling books off my bookshelves to bolster my hotheaded argument.
The next morning we drove down to San Diego harbor so he could reminiscence about his last visit to San Diego, where he spent a day loading ammunition on his aircraft carrier during World War II.
It was a wonderful visit. I very much miss the ability to have heated political arguments with my father, who died in 1993.
The other night I had the chance to have a heated argument with my son over Michael Bloomberg. It was like the old days.
My wife - who'd been there for that San Diego argument - remarked on how heated the argument was.
"It's a family tradition," I said.
My son, who loves stories about his grandfather - who he never met - and I just laughed.
Life is beautiful, and then you die.
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Go at it all the time. He votes Democrat, does not like Trump but blames NAFTA for the demise of jobs in this Country. Upset his wife the first time she heard it. I apologized and explained we are not mad. She ignores us now.
My Grandson is now getting in the act with his Dad. Thinks more like me, climate change,etc!
Girard442
(6,067 posts)I can't "disagree without being disagreeable" about toddlers forever separated from their parents and tossed into cages where they sit in their own shit and wait to die from untreated illnesses.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)...in cages.
I think most of us, Republicans and Democrats and Independents alike were all in the "It can't happen here," mode.
Now of course, it is happening here.
Even my father, right wing as he was, hated Nazis. He never thought one would be in the White House.
My son and I were arguing over his statement that he couldn't vote for Michael Bloomberg. My argument was that if I could imagine being forced to vote for Bernie Sanders, he needed to be willing to be forced to vote for Bloomberg.
And yes, I did point to the children in cages.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)just two days ago i got into a heated argument with my son regarding politics. Sadly he is a trump supporter. The argument was on a family text group. His sisters (4) dread these situations and try to stop them. Usually start with one of us posting something political and the other responding and grows from there. Fridays argument grew and grew. Some of the family had plans to go to his house for pizza and watching a show on tv. I was in this group. Finally after much back and forth i said. I am getting ready to come to your house now, be nice to me. My oldest daughter jumped in at this point saying "Thank God".
Went to his house had pizza and watched the show. No problems, of course politics was never brought up.
We have had opposite views on politics ever since 9/11. Recently we have reached an unspoken agreement to not talk politics. Works fine but this text thing was never addressed. I have decided to not get involved with him on the family texts, politically that is.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)My son is to the left of me, I think.
Our dispute was about his contention that I was too moderate, because I'm ABT, and he is ABT except Bloomberg.
He's opposed to rich people dominating conversations by throwing their money around. As it happens, our State has had two Democratic Governors for whom this is the case, Phil Murphy, our current Governor, and John Corzine, a previous Governor, both having gotten rich at Goldman Sachs.
Neither of those Governors are my favorite guys, but at least they're not Chris Christie, a corrupt racist asshole who normalized the candidacy of an ignorant racist billionaire to sit in the White House.