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wnylib

(21,341 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:47 PM Mar 2020

What is your favorite dog breed and why?

Mine is border collies, based on one I had many years ago, named Laddie. He was not pedigreed (none of my pets have been), so he might have had another breed in his family tree somewhere, but he looked pure border collie. Got him from the Humane Society when he was 2 months old. He was tri-colored, white, black, and a rich sable color.

The best all around dog I ever knew. Protective, playful, excellent hunting instincts without any training, well mannered and rule-abiding, very intelligent, huge vocabulary, and able to make his own judgments about danger. (I never let my husband take him hunting bc I feared a stupid hunter would shoot him for a fox).

Most memorable and amazing thing that Laddie did. We were at a public park on the Lake Erie shore next to the mouth of a large creek that empties into the lake. It was early spring. The creek was just stocked with coho salmon and several fishermen were checking it out, tossing Velveeta cheese to watch the fish jump.

We were chatting with a young couple who had their 18 month old daughter with them. I had Laddie on a leash. None of us, except Laddie, noticed the girl wander toward the creek bank, which had a 30 foot drop and strong undertow from the lake.

Laddie barked so ferociously, while tugging HARD on the leash, that I looked to see why. None of us could have reached the child in time. Intuituvely I understood Laddie's intent and dropped the leash. He raced to the girl, knocked her down, and sat on her until her father reached her. Meantime, the mother was screaming in fear.

When the father picked up his daughter, Laddie trotted back to me. The father offered us $50 for saving his child. We said the dog did it, not us. He said, "But you gave the command." I told him that I said nothing, just let go so Laddie could do his thing, and that Laddie was not a trained rescue dog, only a pet.

The father could not believe that an untrained dog would recognize the danger and take action on his own. But, border collies are instinctively herding dogs. Laddie saw a young "human lamb" going astray and went after her.

I have had other dogs that I cherished, but Laddie has always remained my favorite.

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What is your favorite dog breed and why? (Original Post) wnylib Mar 2020 OP
border collies Skittles Mar 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author mnhtnbb Mar 2020 #98
Australian Cattle Dog. I am a professional trainer yankeepants Mar 2020 #132
very important for a pet to be a match for people Skittles Mar 2020 #137
Mutts! n/t DonaldsRump Mar 2020 #2
Goldens, because right now i have one on my lap and one at my feet dem4decades Mar 2020 #3
Need pix. Funtatlaguy Mar 2020 #10
Not sure how to do that here. dem4decades Mar 2020 #15
Australian Shepherds nocoincidences Mar 2020 #4
I sometimes wondered if Laddie had wnylib Mar 2020 #16
I have one of each Major Nikon Mar 2020 #97
I'm not personally familiar with wnylib Mar 2020 #103
+ 1 Raastan Mar 2020 #41
Agreed-smartest Dogs ever marked50 Mar 2020 #52
What a beautiful story leftieNanner Mar 2020 #5
If you're a Shepard person hou might like this story . Has a great photo. dem4decades Mar 2020 #18
LOL. Dogs are so loyal and protective. wnylib Mar 2020 #19
Pitties 🐕 💖 mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #6
Golden Labradors. ZZenith Mar 2020 #7
Dachshunds. I grew up with them and I have a dachshund mix now who's scary smart. Cousin Dupree Mar 2020 #8
Right there with you on the Dachshunds! I love them yellowdogintexas Mar 2020 #43
I agree. I LOVE Dachshunds! Upthevibe Mar 2020 #119
After 32 years with 2 Lhasa Apso dogs, without a doubt those are the best at140 Mar 2020 #9
Rat Terriers. Love that they are feisty little dogs but also "chill" when you need them to. OregonBlue Mar 2020 #11
Exactly. Full of energy, but they have an "Off" button. They will play and they will cuddle. Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #28
Yes. Not like other terriers in that respect. OregonBlue Mar 2020 #102
Newfoundland SamKnause Mar 2020 #12
Boxer Lab mix LW1977 Mar 2020 #13
Standard Poodles pandr32 Mar 2020 #14
I agree with poodles, but I like minitures. broiles Mar 2020 #21
Ha-Ha! Ours are too big for the bed pandr32 Mar 2020 #50
Standard poodles are my second choice after wnylib Mar 2020 #27
You described Bama and Ziggy to a T pandr32 Mar 2020 #56
She was not being honest when she said wnylib Mar 2020 #65
That seems like what happened pandr32 Mar 2020 #94
Gordon setter MissB Mar 2020 #17
Golden Retrievers ... GeorgeGist Mar 2020 #20
They are sweeties jberryhill Mar 2020 #30
Yes, they are my favorites as well! smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #78
I'd say Border Collie also. FoxNewsSucks Mar 2020 #22
Yellow Labs ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #23
Shelties LOL SheltieLover Mar 2020 #24
I love shelties, too. They are so beautiful wnylib Mar 2020 #32
Very true! SheltieLover Mar 2020 #33
Scottish Terrier TruckFump Mar 2020 #25
My brother had a Scottie. Smart, cute, wnylib Mar 2020 #34
Yes, they are. TruckFump Mar 2020 #36
Awwwww SheltieLover Mar 2020 #26
The little girl was adorable, dressed wnylib Mar 2020 #38
LOL SheltieLover Mar 2020 #39
I'm going to be honest and tell you I didn't read your entire post... lisa58 Mar 2020 #29
Yep. Once you've lived with one, you wnylib Mar 2020 #40
Amazing... lisa58 Mar 2020 #42
I understand. i do like other dogs, wnylib Mar 2020 #53
So do I, but once you've known a border collie... lisa58 Mar 2020 #55
Bulldog Bmoboy Mar 2020 #31
I have two Worried senior Mar 2020 #35
After Laddie was grown up, we got wnylib Mar 2020 #47
Bichons Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #37
I agree duforsure Mar 2020 #79
though I own a border collie now and love him, my favorite breed isn't a breed at all... wyldwolf Mar 2020 #44
Solid black, and orange tabby jmowreader Mar 2020 #45
LOL. I have had both and like them wnylib Mar 2020 #48
It's a tie for me, German Shepherds and Poodles ms liberty Mar 2020 #46
He was probably up to no good. wnylib Mar 2020 #49
Schnauzers (minis) Sancho Mar 2020 #51
German Shepherds JimGinPA Mar 2020 #54
Love them all but partial to Rottweilers... Phentex Mar 2020 #57
I love Rotties too! smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #139
Border collies mdelaguna Mar 2020 #58
We lived in the city, which limited wnylib Mar 2020 #70
Pekingese BBG Mar 2020 #59
Jack Russell. My last dog of 15 years, passed away in my arms. Smart, Loving and challenging. OverBurn Mar 2020 #60
Oh, definitely challenging. wnylib Mar 2020 #67
Every dog is the best. However we had three Weimaraners. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #61
I love Weimaraners hangaleft Mar 2020 #82
Both are so alike. We love GSPs LakeArenal Mar 2020 #92
We had a Weim many years ago. He was one of the smartest Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #112
Sigh. Too smart sometimes. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #115
We used to go to the Weimaraner Field Trials on occasion, Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #121
❤️❤️❤️ LakeArenal Mar 2020 #136
spits or shepherds cause cat ears. i am a cat person. pansypoo53219 Mar 2020 #62
Raised with a cocker; had cockers when my kids were little rurallib Mar 2020 #63
Herding dogs are great Gothmog Mar 2020 #64
Don't think I ever ssw one. wnylib Mar 2020 #72
Did you see the movie the Shaggy Dog with Tim Allen? Gothmog Apr 2020 #138
Have not seen the Tim Allen wnylib Apr 2020 #141
Tricolor border collies. Codeine Mar 2020 #66
Your Dog!!!! IGoToDU Mar 2020 #68
Had the poor mother in tears, too, and trembling wnylib Mar 2020 #73
Great story! Bayard Mar 2020 #69
LOL. Love the sneakiness and contrition. wnylib Mar 2020 #74
Bedlington Terrier, elleng Mar 2020 #71
OMG! How cute. Looks like a large wnylib Mar 2020 #75
Yes indeed, OUR dog! elleng Mar 2020 #76
A Cavalier King Charles Spaniel bamagal62 Mar 2020 #77
I generally prefer medium to large sized wnylib Mar 2020 #87
hard question for me BatteriesNotNeeded Mar 2020 #80
Just about every dog is lovable, wnylib Mar 2020 #88
GSPs hangaleft Mar 2020 #81
I am also in the BC camp mrs_p Mar 2020 #83
The Rhodesian Ridgeback quickesst Mar 2020 #84
I got teary eyed, what a beautiful soul Bluethroughu Mar 2020 #85
Gotta watch out for long critters wnylib Mar 2020 #89
Wow... Bluethroughu Mar 2020 #95
My basset mix MrsMatt Mar 2020 #86
Wow. What a mix. Should make an wnylib Mar 2020 #90
I've had 5 border collies and one of them currently Major Nikon Mar 2020 #91
I've heard those warnings about wnylib Mar 2020 #93
Not all of them I've had exhibit typical behavior Major Nikon Mar 2020 #96
Did you really mean to say that you wnylib Mar 2020 #104
Yes, should be can Major Nikon Mar 2020 #105
i just realized in re-reading my own post that I goofed. wnylib Mar 2020 #106
She's basically an 8 yr old puppy Major Nikon Mar 2020 #107
Oh, so beautiful and adorable. wnylib Mar 2020 #114
I think I was willing to stick it out wnylib Mar 2020 #111
One of my previous border collies was scary with his seemingly unlimited vocabulary Major Nikon Mar 2020 #113
Laddie was like that with language, too. wnylib Mar 2020 #116
Goldens mnhtnbb Mar 2020 #99
Mutts... MrScorpio Mar 2020 #100
Yes they are, and some of the best wnylib Mar 2020 #118
A wire haired Irish Terrier X, definitely part fox ! ;) OnDoutside Mar 2020 #101
Papillons. blue neen Mar 2020 #108
My neighbor has a papillon. wnylib Mar 2020 #117
Where's all the BEAGLE love??? Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #109
My grandfather had a beagle wnylib Mar 2020 #120
Agreed. Beagles are wonderful family dogs. Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #124
We had Beagles growing up and they were such sweet dogs! smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #140
I mentioned above that I grew up with a part Dachshund/part Beagle.. Upthevibe Mar 2020 #122
I'm just surprised there was so little mention in the thread about beagles. Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #126
We had a beagle that was just the best doggy dog TexasBushwhacker Mar 2020 #110
Beagles are among the cutest puppies. wnylib Mar 2020 #125
I love a lot of breeds, but I would have to say my favorite is the Golden Retriever. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #123
I knew a blind man who had a Golden wnylib Mar 2020 #127
I have liked German Shepherd Dogs since I was a kid. Doreen Mar 2020 #128
Whew. Some tough breaks you had. Hope wnylib Mar 2020 #129
I have a few friends who were scared of German Shepherds. Doreen Mar 2020 #131
LOL. I was never concerned about wnylib Mar 2020 #133
I have run into people that have no clue they are actually herding dogs. Doreen Mar 2020 #134
Pom DanieRains Mar 2020 #130
Standard Poodle Cicada Mar 2020 #135
Long eared doggies. Wolf Frankula Apr 2020 #142

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
1. border collies
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:49 PM
Mar 2020

they are the ones who can keep up with me (my step count indicates I walk between 7 and 8 miles a day)

Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

yankeepants

(1,979 posts)
132. Australian Cattle Dog. I am a professional trainer
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:25 AM
Mar 2020

I own a board and train facility and over the years have adopted 5 dogs from folks who found themselves in bad circumstances. Two of said dogs are Australian Cattle Dogs (Blue Heelers). They are purchased by well meaning people who don't know what it takes to live with a truly hard core working dog and end up in over their heads. I adore these dogs for their tenacity, devotion, problem-solving ability, athleticism, and sheer coolness. My other dogs are a Border Collie, Bischon mix, and a black lab. I love them all but the Heelers steal my heart.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
137. very important for a pet to be a match for people
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:41 PM
Mar 2020

that's why I think reputable folk should always quiz someone on their lifestyle before letting them have a dog

nocoincidences

(2,216 posts)
4. Australian Shepherds
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:55 PM
Mar 2020

I have had at least one since I was 24 years old.

For the same reason folks love Border Collies.

Aussies are so smart, so devoted, so protective...my last one died last year and he is still with me in my dreams.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
16. I sometimes wondered if Laddie had
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:22 PM
Mar 2020

some Australian shepherd in his line bc he had a gentleness to him that I've heard is characteristic of them, along with the intelligence, herding instinct, loyalty, etc. Very similar breeds.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
97. I have one of each
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:11 PM
Mar 2020

I've only had one Aussie so I can't make a determination on all of them. All I can say is the one I have isn't like any border collie I've ever had. She's definitely the most loyal dog. She spends all of her time next to me and never wants to go anywhere else. What's amazing is that until now I've always had at least two border collies and they never really got along all that well together. They would always play together, but outside of that they wanted little to do with each other. My Aussie gets along great with everyone, including other dogs. So they make a much better pair than trying to pair up two border collies. When my Aussie can't be around me, she's always next to my border collie.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
103. I'm not personally familiar with
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:10 PM
Mar 2020

Aussies, so I shouldn't comment on them. I was only going on what I had read about them. My border collie's gentleness matched what I read about Aussies. But he could be very feisty as a protector, which I described in another post about the time he chased down a guy who took my wallet. (I got the wallet back, with the contents still in it.)

We got a 2 year old beagle/basset mix when Laddie was full grown. The hound was not housebroken when we got it and did not know indoor dog house rules. The first few days there was some tension about territory and ego, but Laddie adapted. He tattled on the hound by coming to us and barking when the hound did something wrong. It was funny, like Laddie felt sophisticated next to a bumpkin, and had to supervise the hound. They got along ok, played together sometimes, but Laddie always acted like he felt superior. The hound tolerated that and they were company for each other when we were at work.

Laddie was very loyal, but liked the freedom to do his own thing, too, when running free outdoors in the country. Exceptionally good about coming back when called and staying close when in public around people. Did not really need a leash, but we used it where law required it. Liked people. Good at independent judgment, too. Very cooperative at the vet clinic, where everyone loved him.





leftieNanner

(15,066 posts)
5. What a beautiful story
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:55 PM
Mar 2020

We are German Shepherd Dog people. We have had four of them in our family over the course of about 25 years. Gigi, Pete, Annie, and Riley. Smart, sweet, protective, and funny. My neighbor Lisa had two (Zach and Andi) and I had Pete and Gigi. We would walk them with our four children. It drove the dogs nuts when the two older kids would ride a little bit ahead on their bikes and then they would relax as the kids rode back in our direction. And I will tell you that anybody walking down the trail couldn't get far enough away from us - four large GSDs on patrol!

One day, Lisa's husband Bill needed to come into our back yard when I wasn't there, to retrieve something of Lisa's. Well, Bill was there with a friend. Pete knew Bill, but not the friend. So he allowed Bill to come in through the gate, but made it ABUNDANTLY clear to the friend that he had not been properly introduced, Mom wasn't there, and he better clear out if he knew what was good for him. Scared the guy sufficiently that he remained on the other side of the gate. Good boy Pete!

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
19. LOL. Dogs are so loyal and protective.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:34 PM
Mar 2020

My grandfather had a collie/shepherd mix named Lady on his farm when I was a child. Lady and I became so attached to each other that as soon as my parents pulled up in their car, she greeted us from wherever she had been and clung to my side until we left.

I explored the farm -- the fields, woods, and creek -- with Lady at my side. She stopped when I did, and moved on when I did. Nobody worried about me, a city kid, going off on my own bc they knew Lady would look after me.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. Pitties 🐕 💖
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:02 PM
Mar 2020

As long as they're not from fighting stock and are properly socialized ... best doggos evah imho ...

But I love all dogs ... Border Collies and Aussies are probably next, followed by any kind of Retriever ...

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
7. Golden Labradors.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:02 PM
Mar 2020

Or Goldadors, as some people unfortunately call them.

You get the hardiness of a Labrador Retriever and the intelligence and kindness of a Golden Retriever and you end up with a dog who can do anything.

They are strangely hard to come by but if you ever live with one you’ll know you’ve found the perfect dog.

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
8. Dachshunds. I grew up with them and I have a dachshund mix now who's scary smart.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:06 PM
Mar 2020

They are sassy and independent. One they are trained, they’re trained. And they are sooooo cute!

yellowdogintexas

(22,231 posts)
43. Right there with you on the Dachshunds! I love them
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:54 PM
Mar 2020

If I were to get a dog, it would be a doxie. They are the funniest dogs ever, natural born clowns yet they can be very cuddly.

Until recently I did not know of the color ranges they come in, just the black & brown and the red.

We baby sat my uncle's doxie when they were between postings (with us for 6 weeks) and we had so much fun with him. If you just pat the ground, he would start digging and Honestly I think he would have dug to China!! He was a full size standard which is something you don't see often over here (they got him when they were stationed in Germany)

Upthevibe

(8,015 posts)
119. I agree. I LOVE Dachshunds!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:08 AM
Mar 2020

I grew up with a part Dachshund part Beagle. I loved that dog more than I've ever loved any other furry critter in my whole life..

at140

(6,110 posts)
9. After 32 years with 2 Lhasa Apso dogs, without a doubt those are the best
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:07 PM
Mar 2020

For starters Lhasa's shed very very little. There is nothing more annoying than a couch full of dog hair when I visit other people with dogs.
Lhasa's were bred in Tibet to catch mice inside grain storage structures, so they can accelerate amazingly fast. I could not throw a tennis ball fast enough inside a long hallway before it hit the end of hall. The dogs caught it first!

Another characteristic of Lhasa dogs is their keen hearing. They are incredibly good burglar alarms. And our last Lhasa was a 10 lb female and she loved to sit on our laps and her very long hair stayed silky soft until the day she passed away at age 16. Being so small their feeding cost is low. Only weak point in these dogs is their eyes. I cleaned their eyes every few days to prevent infections.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
12. Newfoundland
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:12 PM
Mar 2020

They are big.

They have sweet personalities.

They don't bark a lot.

They are great for cuddling.

They have the sweetest face.

They love water.

They are strong.

They are beautiful.

They are used for water rescues and pulling carts.

LW1977

(1,232 posts)
13. Boxer Lab mix
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:13 PM
Mar 2020

Also Pyrs, but the previous 2 were Pyrs and had cancer related deaths at the way too early ages 6 and 7 respectively.

pandr32

(11,557 posts)
14. Standard Poodles
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:22 PM
Mar 2020

We got Bama 2 years ago, and then his half brother last year. Never on a million years did I ever think I would have poodles, but these guys have changed my attitude. We do not give them fancy clips at all, but do keep their hair short except for on top of their heads and their tails. We clip them at home.
They are the smartest and most athletic dogs I've ever had and I have had several shepherds and labs as well as a Dalmatian so far. They are also hilarious--cracking up the whole family with their antics. They also are excellent watch dogs.
The younger one jumps in the pool to swim with me, but his older brother hides behind the bushes because he hates swimming. He acts like he must have been a cat in an earlier life. He also will kill birds or chickens if he gets the chance--fast as lightning.
They have been super easy to train and aside from being great at play they are affectionate. They have been wonderful members of our family.

broiles

(1,367 posts)
21. I agree with poodles, but I like minitures.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:41 PM
Mar 2020

Same reason as above, but minis take up less room in the bed.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
27. Standard poodles are my second choice after
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:59 PM
Mar 2020

border collies. Never had a standard poodle, but have always admired them for their smarts and personality. A friend had one and the first time it met me, it looked directly at my face with curious intelligence, checking me out, and then cocked its head as if pondering what I was like. It was both charming and a little intimidating to make me feel like I had to pass some sort of test. Apparently I did pass because he accepted me with affection.

I prefer standards over miniatures and toys bc they are so majestic looking. Can't understand why anybody decided to downsize this breed. My former sister-in-law used to breed toys and it seemed to me that something was lost in the process of making these dogs smaller. Much prefer the full sized dog. If I had one, I also would not get fancy cuts for it. Just enough to keep it neatly groomed.

But, I cannot have one. I now live in an apartment building that restricts dog ownership to small breeds of 30 pounds or less. I have a cat instead.

pandr32

(11,557 posts)
56. You described Bama and Ziggy to a T
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:06 PM
Mar 2020

They are intuitive and inquisitive for sure.

John Steinbeck had a standard called Charley. He took him everywhere and Charley's hair was kept neat and shortish--not fussy.

Ours are kept like that with a tiny exception: both are parti-poodles (bi-colored), and Bama is all black except for a thin lightning bolt on his front neck and chest and a white patch on his bottom jaw. I keep a little goatee on him to show it off and it gives him a rather suave, but bad-ass look. Ziggy is all pied like a pinto pony and even though he is younger (same father as Bama) he is huge. He looks like a royal poodle but he just happened on the really large genes. He leaves huge paw prints like a wolf.
I have always preferred big dogs. Probably because a chihuahua bit me as a child. The lady holding him had held him out for me to pet, too, and then said it was so unlike him to bite anyone. I had to get a rabies shot. Also, I cannot handle high-pitched yapping--drives me insane.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
65. She was not being honest when she said
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:21 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:58 AM - Edit history (1)

it was out of character for her chihuahua to bite. They are high strung, territorial, and very protective of their owners, especially when being held in the owners' arms. Several of my neighbors have chihuahuas bc my apt building rules limit dogs to small breeds of 30 pounds or less. They are yappy little biters. I think their size gives them Napoleonic complexes.

MissB

(15,803 posts)
17. Gordon setter
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:24 PM
Mar 2020

Best dog ever. I haven’t seen one in forever- the breed doesn’t seem popular around here.

I’ve raised two Aussies and loved them both. Wouldn’t have one again unless we lived on a farm and then that would be my first choice.

Of course my current dog is really the best dog ever! He’s a lab mix- mixed with American bulldog, Weimaraner and German Shepard. Passes as a lab, but had features of all that. Super sweet and smart. Weirdly tall legs. Wide chest and super strong. The cat still dominates.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
78. Yes, they are my favorites as well!
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:19 AM
Mar 2020

They are so loving, affectionate and loyal. They are just the sweetest dogs in the world! I adore them!

I also love Swiss Mountain Dogs. They are such gentle giants and very sweet natured, but not quite as cuddly and affectionate as Goldens.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,422 posts)
22. I'd say Border Collie also.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:45 PM
Mar 2020

I got mine from a shelter 6 years ago. Didn't know what she was for over a year, as she is a smooth-coat border collie and I'd never heard of them.

She does tend to want the kids to stay with the group.

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
23. Yellow Labs
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:51 PM
Mar 2020

The reason is my dog is right next to me on the couch and he insisted I post this!
Actually, I don't have a fave, but last 2 were labs.
This one sacking out next to me is super smart & very empathetic. He's also a spoiled brat. So, there's that!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
24. Shelties LOL
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:55 PM
Mar 2020

They are so beautiful, sweet, and smart...and they always want to be good. They own a special place in my heart. 💖

That said, I really love all dogs! 😁

Thank you for this wonderful thread!

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
32. I love shelties, too. They are so beautiful
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:09 PM
Mar 2020

and have some of the traits of collies and border collies. But, they require so much grooming that I don't think I could deal with it. The trend seems to be to breed their coats longer and fuller than is practical for anyone but a show dog owner. Hard for me to imagine them as household pets.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
25. Scottish Terrier
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:56 PM
Mar 2020

I am sure from my avatar, it is pretty obvious that my favorite breed of dog is a Scottie.

I got my first Scottie when I was in elementary school. FDR was my hero and I wanted a dog just like Fala. I now have my 7th Scottish Terrier. They are not a dog for everyone. They are little persons and are possessed by total dignity. Intelligent does not even maybe begin to describe a Scottie. Each and everyone of my wee lassies and laddies that have owned me -- and believe me, it's not the other way around -- has amazed me by some trait or trick or instinct he or she possessed. My beloved Scottie I lost nearly three years ago was a certified hearing assist dog. She was amazing. A friend helped me train her and there was nothing she missed. She road in a special basket in my car next to me. Her main purpose was to alert to sirens. While at times I could hear them -- when wearing my hearing aids -- my problem was I could not tell the direction from which the sound was coming. Mags would howl and turn her head toward the source of the sound. This was a blessing when I was in downtown LA or other areas with tall buildings which blocked my view from seeing the source of the sound. In a parking lot after we got out of the car, she would pull me to the side and away from cars I was not able to hear that were approaching from the rear. At the grocery store, she road shot-gun in the top portion of the basket because I could not hear the "beep beep" of the large motorized carts if they came at us from the rear. Mags would alert me immediately.

Fiercely loyal, sturdy wee doggies -- the females of the breed are especially loyal to their homes. They will defend their territory to the max. My late husband, who loved HUGE dogs, found my Scotties to be "a big dog in a small dog's body."

Being loved by a Scottish Terrier is an honor!

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wnylib

(21,341 posts)
38. The little girl was adorable, dressed
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:35 PM
Mar 2020

in a spring outfit with long pants that had ruffles where her butt bulged from her diaper.

The mother had been holding her, but she fussed to be put down and wandered off farther and quicker than seemed possible since the park's lawn was still lumpy after the snow had melted.

The kid had no clue, of course, of her danger or the scare she gave us. She LOVED the dog's attention to her. Kept saying, "Doggie! Doggie!"

I'd bet that when she got older, her parents told her about the day she scared them half to death and was rescued by a stranger's dog.

lisa58

(5,755 posts)
29. I'm going to be honest and tell you I didn't read your entire post...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:00 PM
Mar 2020

I would have, but my choice is border collie (I’ve had 3 and know many others) and I understand....

lisa58

(5,755 posts)
42. Amazing...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:47 PM
Mar 2020

I hate to be a snob about it, but I am: if it isn’t a border collie, it’s just a dog...

lisa58

(5,755 posts)
55. So do I, but once you've known a border collie...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:04 PM
Mar 2020

And they have looked in your eyes - it’s all over..

Bmoboy

(265 posts)
31. Bulldog
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:03 PM
Mar 2020

Stout, friendly, protective, unbreakable, close to the ground, powerful, and comfy to lay on or to lay on me.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
47. After Laddie was grown up, we got
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:11 PM
Mar 2020

a half beagle, half basset (bassle?) that we named Beau. He had the long basset ears and the quirky habit of swinging his ears to catch one in his mouth.

Beau was 2 years old when we got him from the Humane Society. They said he was a stray. I think he had never lived indoors bc he was not housebroken and rejected all rules of indoor dog behavior. Laddie took it upon himself to tattle on Beau whenever he broke a rule, like peeing on the kitchen floor or swiping food from the table behind my back.

Beau was also an escape artist. Always figured a way out of our fenced in yard and Laddie would follow him to round him up.

But Beau's funniest behavior was his reaction to snow. He was...um...well hung. Did not like squatting in the snow for bowel movements and freezing his well hungness. So he took a long time to trample down a wide circle before squatting. One time, when the snow was deep, he lifted a front paw and licked it, whimpering. I thought it was injured and carried him awkwardly back to the porch. Once I set him down to check his paw, he walked on it with no problem. He just didn't like stepping in the snow.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,103 posts)
37. Bichons
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:28 PM
Mar 2020

They are cute, very friendly, don't shed and don't have a ton of medical issues. If you feed them correctly, they aren't prone to allergies.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
79. I agree
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:20 AM
Mar 2020

Also they are very , very smart and got my wife one and what a loving little thing she is , and a great lap dog. They get along with other animals well to.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
44. though I own a border collie now and love him, my favorite breed isn't a breed at all...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:57 PM
Mar 2020

... at least it isn't recognized by the AKC.

For about 25 years, I had hybrid wolves (actually 'wolf dogs' because they're not really hybrids.)

A 25% timber / 75% malamute.
A 50% timber / 50% husky.
A 75% arctic tundra / 25% husky (and SHE was hard to explain to people.)

jmowreader

(50,529 posts)
45. Solid black, and orange tabby
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:01 PM
Mar 2020

Sorry folks, but I've never had a good experience with dogs. I am definitely a cat person.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
48. LOL. I have had both and like them
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:31 PM
Mar 2020

both. But I do have a slight preference for cats bc they're so quirky, with a logic that is uniquely their own.

ms liberty

(8,558 posts)
46. It's a tie for me, German Shepherds and Poodles
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:03 PM
Mar 2020

I've had both, the Poodles have always been Miniatures. I'd like to have a Standard at some point. Both breeds are scary smart, which is a mixed blessing!, they're naturally protective and easily trained. And both breeds have amazing personalities.
When I was about 10 or 12, we lived in a rural area. It was the summer, and I was at the mailbox, which was on the main road at the end of the dirt road I lived on. Middle of the day. A man pulled onto my dirt road and stopped, got out of his car and began to approach me. My German Shepherd got between us as he got out of his car, and as he took a few steps toward me her hackles came up and she began growling and moved toward him. This was about 1970-72, long before you heard about child abductions and awful things of that nature, but somehow I knew his intentions were not good the minute he got out of his car. I could see it and feel it, and she did too. After she started growling and baring her teeth, he backed away and got in his car, and drove down the road, which was a dead end. We ran to my house, and I went in, locked the door and called my mom at work. When the guy drove back up the road he drove slowly, and my dog went out into the yard with her hackles up and teeth bared at him. I have no proof of course, but I have always believed she saved my life that day.
My memory is that my mom called the sheriff's department and came home, and they patrolled our area more often for a while.
Right now I have a Heinz 57, a Lab/Chessy mix, a Rat Terrier, and a German Shepherd/ Belgian Malinois, and I love them all dearly.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
49. He was probably up to no good.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:37 PM
Mar 2020

Trust your own instincts and the dog's, too. Good thing she was there with you.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
51. Schnauzers (minis)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:51 PM
Mar 2020

...we've had a lot of breeds over 55 years.

We actually don't mind the yipping and energy. I think it often depends on your lifestyle, space available, and personality.

We have two rescue schnauzers now. Love them both.

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
57. Love them all but partial to Rottweilers...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:08 PM
Mar 2020

They are funny and smart and pony-sized lap dogs.

I love their energy and mischievous personalities.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
139. I love Rotties too!
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 10:41 PM
Apr 2020

My sister had one. Her name was Ruby and I just adored her! She was almost human.

She didn't like everyone, but if she loved you, she was so affectionate. She's been gone a few years now, but I will never forget her. She was so smart, loving and had such a great personality! I miss her so much!

mdelaguna

(471 posts)
58. Border collies
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:12 PM
Mar 2020

My Christie was a lot like your Laddie. Scary smart. Super sweet. People marveled. She was telepathic. Have a different breed, now, for lifestyle limitation reasons. Besides, there could only ever be one Christie.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
70. We lived in the city, which limited
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:41 AM
Mar 2020

Laddie's winter exercise to our yard. In the spring, we drove to the countryside where he could run free. He flushed up birds and tracked rabbits with no training. Also chased deer which was illegal and could get a dog shot, so we called him back from deer chases and he returned without hesitation. Taught him to leave deer alone and he did.

He loved water. When he was 6 months old, we went on a picnic by a creek with another couple who had a black lab the same age. The lab went into the water and my husband put Laddie in the creek, over my objections. Laddie and the lab dog-paddled together. After that, Laddie jumped into creeks on his own. We tossed sticks in the water and he chased them down to bring them back to us. He even retrieved a small rock that we dropped into Lake Erie near the shore. Felt in the sandy bottom for it with his paws, then stuck his face in to pick it up.

At home, he played in the bath tub. This was the early 1970s, and we rented an old house. It had a claw tub with a plug and a handle to turn on the water. Laddie would turn the water on and block the drain with his paw until the water rose around him, then pull his paw back and watch the water swirl down the drain, occasionally blocking it, then letting go again. I had to shut him in another room while I filled the tub or he would pull the plug to watch the water drain.

He knew an incredible number of words and phrases and picked them up quickly from conversational context and body language, like a person does. Scary intelligence.



BBG

(2,526 posts)
59. Pekingese
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:21 PM
Mar 2020

Being a city dweller and in no need of herding other mammals we are content with the companionship the breed bred specifically to be an emperors lapdog. They are great city dogs and the addition of a robovac has made life so much more manageable as they do shed. A lot.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
67. Oh, definitely challenging.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:36 AM
Mar 2020

Friend of mine has a Jack Russell. And a scruffy looking terrier mix. Both female. The Jack Russel acts like a minder or caretaker over the other dog, although the JR is younger and the second dog. Herds the other dog to the door when it's time to go out. Sits outside the bathroom door whimpering when the other one gets a bath. Very assertive with everyone, but not threatening, except as a watchdog. Hyper-energetic.

I visited with my cat. The terrier mix wanted to play with the cat right away, making playful rushes at the cat. The JR tried to assert herself with the cat, nudging him like she did with the other dog. Cat set the JR straight right away about feline independence and established rules of contact and play. Very funny to see the JR taking cues respectfully from the cat.

They soon set up a game. The layout of the house made it possible to go from living room, past entry foyer, to kitchen, and back to living room, in a circle. The cat would stand by the JR, ready to take off, like a challenge, which the JR could not resist. Round and round they went, room to room. After a couple rounds, the cat would leap onto a table in the foyer, too high for the JR to reach, then tap the JR on the head as she passed by. JR would try to reach, get tapped again, and give up to settle in the living room, where the cat would appear again to restart the game. When both tired out, they curled up together on the couch for a nap.

LakeArenal

(28,804 posts)
61. Every dog is the best. However we had three Weimaraners.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:23 PM
Mar 2020

They are so handsome.

Now that we are old we adopted a rescue, a daschund mix of 14 lbs. one we can lift to get to a vet. He’s an incredible boy with the greatest personality.

Dog is Love.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
82. I love Weimaraners
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 06:37 AM
Mar 2020

We’ve had a Weimaraner and a GSP. Loved them both, and they loved us right back.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
112. We had a Weim many years ago. He was one of the smartest
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

and funniest dogs we ever had.

We were camping one weekend and it got pretty cold during the night. The Weim was shaking from the cold so I slipped a sweatshirt over him and let him snuggle in the sleeping bag. The next evening, when he wanted to go to bed, he opened the zipper of the tent with his nose and walked back out with the sweatshirt in his mouth. I put it on him, he returned to the tent and popped himself into the bag. He loved his jammies!

At home, he'd watch the digital clock move to 11:00 and give us the "It's my bedtime" look. He was trained not to bark in the house, but he learned that flapping his ears was just as effective in getting what he wanted. If you tried to ignore him while watching TV, he'd stand directly in front of the screen with the attitude of "If you won't look where I'm standing, I'll stand where you're looking."

He was quite the character.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
121. We used to go to the Weimaraner Field Trials on occasion,
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:08 AM
Mar 2020

which was quite the sight.

The day would start with a couple hundred trucks/SUVs arriving basically the same time, opening their vehicle doors and hundreds of Weims bounding out onto the field. They'd run; they'd sniff; they were a moving carpet of gray. You'd have to rely on your dog finding you rather than the other way around - just too many, all looking pretty much alike. LOL

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
63. Raised with a cocker; had cockers when my kids were little
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:42 PM
Mar 2020

Just love cockers.

But I must say, my old neighbor had an Australian Shepherd and that was one smart and beautiful pooch.

Gothmog

(144,933 posts)
138. Did you see the movie the Shaggy Dog with Tim Allen?
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 09:51 PM
Apr 2020

Tim Allen turned into a bearded collie. Two of my dogs were in that movie and my new puppy is related to the main dog in that movie
Here is a picture of some beardies







I have one 9 month old puppy. My son has a 10 year old male and my middle child has a 10 year female and the brother of my puppy.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
141. Have not seen the Tim Allen
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:28 AM
Apr 2020

version of the movie, only the old one with Fred McMurray and an old English sheepdog.

They look beautiful, but don't they need a lot of grooming? I wonder about the number of herding dogs that have such long, full coats. Seems like the coats would get in the way of their jobs.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
66. Tricolor border collies.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:24 PM
Mar 2020

I grew up with one named Sugar. She was a most remarkable animal, almost scary smart.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
73. Had the poor mother in tears, too, and trembling
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:38 AM
Mar 2020

head to foot. I'm just glad that Laddie and I were attuned to each other enough that I realized what he wanted and let him go.

He did another "heroic deed" weeks later. I walked a few blocks to a convenience store and tied his leash on a pole near the door while I went inside. When I came out, I set my purse down to untie the leash. After crossing the parking lot to the sidewalk, I realized I had left my purse behind.

When I turned back, a young guy was looking through the purse, for ID, I thought. But when I called out that it was mine, he dropped the purse, kept the wallet, and ran behind the store. Laddie growled and bared his teeth, so I unhooked the leash. When I caught up with them, the guy had been slowed down by a steep hill behind the store. Laddie was snarling like an attack dog and the terrified guy tossed the wallet to use both hands to scramble away up the hill.

Laddie stayed with me and settled down when I picked up the wallet. Everything was still in it.

Border collies are remarkably attuned to their people, as if they think in tandem with us. I guess that is what makes their teamwork with people so valuable as herding dogs. Also makes them good pets to have around, if you can handle their cleverness and energy.

Bayard

(22,011 posts)
69. Great story!
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:25 AM
Mar 2020

I've known some Border Collies, but never owned one. They are terrific dogs.

Other breeds I've owned....Standard Rough Collie as a kid (great 4-H dog), and another one later. Several Miniature Dachshunds. I have really loved the Sighthounds (the fast breeds that hunt by sight instead of smell). Have had Greyhounds, Salukis, and Borzois. Highly intelligent, elegantly beautiful and graceful, playful, and so loving with their people. Aloof with strangers. Unfortunately, they usually don't mix real well with cats.

I've had Great Pyrenees the past several years. Fell for the breed after getting a puppy that was half Borzoi, half Pyr. A cross-bred mistake, as the breeder raised both, and didn't think the young Borzoi was ready for romance yet. The 3 Pyrs we have now are all rescues. They are wonderful dogs....smart, affectionate, protective of home and family. They have also been bred with an independent streak though, that potential owners need to be aware of--they spent most of their time out with the flocks alone, and had to make their own decisions, as well as, guarding against wolves. They are renowned escape artists and barkers. They were bred to roam large areas as livestock guardians, and to let their human know if they heard/saw anything suspicious.

My favorite dog story is about one of the Borzois, Jazzmin. She was hanging out with me on the porch as I sorted out garden produce. I saw her sidle up to the table a minute, and watch me closely, before she surreptitiously edged off some okra and walked away with it. She came back with it a few minutes later, and sheepishly laid it back on the table. Didn't pass the Jazzy taste test!

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
74. LOL. Love the sneakiness and contrition.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:57 AM
Mar 2020

Some of those breeds I never heard of but they sound fascinating.

elleng

(130,740 posts)
76. Yes indeed, OUR dog!
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:14 AM
Mar 2020

Although 16.5 inches (42 cm) is the preferred height for male dogs, a range from 16 to 17.5 inches (41 to 44 cm) is allowed; for females, the preferred height is 15.5 inches (39 cm) and the acceptable range is from 15 to 16.5 inches (38 to 42 cm).[5] Both genders must weigh between 17 and 23 pounds (7.7 and 10.4 kg).

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
87. I generally prefer medium to large sized
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 09:13 AM
Mar 2020

dogs but the Cavalier King Charles is one of the few small breeds that I adore. First saw one being walked in a park. Such a sweet face is impossible not to love instantly on sight. It was prancing around confidently and reminded me of a cat assuming the right to be adored.

80. hard question for me
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 05:02 AM
Mar 2020

I was 2 yrs. old with my first dog, a German Shepard I named Two Cents, because of the white spot above each eye. Such a great dog. My dad believed every child should have a dog.

Then I rescued a cockapoo named Mandy when I was 15 yrs. old, had her 17 yrs. and she was probably 5 when i got her. Smart dog. If we left her alone at home, she would gather every sock, shoe, slipper and pile them at the door, so when we came in, we were well aware of her displeasure.

My daughter had the sweetest Rottie, and her husband had a very smart yellow Lab. Son-in-law trained his dog to duck hunt, and one time when I was babysitting the grandson, SIL decided to not take his dog. He left and Binelli cried and whined for an hour after he left and was dejected. That dog lived to go hunting. We would babysit the dogs when needed. Both well behaved and so affectionate. I came to adore both of their dogs. I enjoyed playing with the dogs, taking them for walks.

We were asked to adopt a friend's Pekingnese 7 yrs. ago. He is now 14 and beginning to fail. He is my favorite of all. He doesn't jump on anyone, or lick people. He is a true lap dog. Not the brightest dog on the planet, but he makes up for it with being comical and sweet. He gets groomed once a month and is white and very light tan. very pretty dog. I had never found pug faces all that cute until we got him. He sticks to me like glue all day and I love it. I'm going to be heartbroken when he's gone. For an older person, a Peke is a perfect dog. Our Peke does not like going on walks, we've tried repeatedly, but gave up on it. He would go for about 1/2 a block and then just lay down and refuse to move. We'd have to carry him back to the house. He could go like a bat out of hell to chase a squirrel but wouldn't go for walks so we couldn't figure out why he didn't like to go on walks. We tried a halter leash, other kinds, it didn't change a thing.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
88. Just about every dog is lovable,
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 09:24 AM
Mar 2020

even ones you don't think would be. Just takes getting to know their personality and how to interact with them.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
83. I am also in the BC camp
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 06:40 AM
Mar 2020

Ours just had her 14 birthday. Smart, athletic, loving, protector, and a beauty too.

She shows her age these days with really bad arthritis and a little dementia, but she isn’t suffering and now that spring is coming around, she has a little more puppy in her step.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
84. The Rhodesian Ridgeback
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:08 AM
Mar 2020

Hands down.

https://www.thepetsandlove.com/how-intelligent-are-rhodesian-ridgebacks/
This crossbreeding created the perfect hound and with the help of the Rhodesian’s intelligence and strength it was used by lion hunting parties to track, corner, and hold lions. Even now the Rhodesian Ridgebacks are still used for hunting by some owners, but they have come to be more of a family companion than anything else. Because of their strong prey drive they tend to be independent in nature but that also makes them loyal, protective and natural watchdogs.

Bluethroughu

(5,141 posts)
85. I got teary eyed, what a beautiful soul
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 08:15 AM
Mar 2020

I love my baby...George is a Wire Fox Terrier. He is just like Laddie, so smart and aware of his surroundings. He knows everyone in the neighborhood and their children, if something is out of order he'll let us know.

I think if he could come back as another being, it would be a bird or an ant...he's fascinated by them and will watch them go about their lives for hours.

For some reason he feels completely threaten by catapilers, we have to move them from his sight, or he will bark and growl until they are gone.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
89. Gotta watch out for long critters
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:21 AM
Mar 2020

with too many legs. They wiggle and coil up like mini snakes. And they shape shift into flying objects.

Actually, the reason might be in the dog's sense of smell. Many caterpillars have toxic substances as self protection from becoming bird prey. A dog with a good sniffer might detect the toxin and consider the caterpillar as dangerous as a snake with venom.

That's just a guess. I don't really know the reason for sure. Some butterflies retain the toxins past the caterpillar stage. If he doesn't like butterflies, either, that could be a clue.

Bluethroughu

(5,141 posts)
95. Wow...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:21 PM
Mar 2020

You could be right on the smell, he sniffs the middle of the patio doors where the glass doors meet to verify what he is seeing outside and he does do this with the caterpillars also.


MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
86. My basset mix
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 08:28 AM
Mar 2020

Had her DNA tested
1/4 Basset Hound
1/8 Golden Retriever
1/8 Labrador Retriever
1/8 American Staffordshire terrier
balance mutt

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
90. Wow. What a mix. Should make an
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:34 AM
Mar 2020

interesting, unique dog.

Of course, they are all unique, despite shared breed traits.

I have had multiple mix dogs (mutts). They were great and memorable pets.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
91. I've had 5 border collies and one of them currently
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:34 AM
Mar 2020

All of them were different. Some had strong herding instincts and some did not. All were very smart and were easily trainable.

However, there should be a warning attached to all of them. There's a reason you'll find so many of them at the pound and the reason is they are not compatible with many people. Some of them are escape artists who can and will find a way out of any and all attempts to restrain them. Some of them will heard small children (they will also try to heard strange adults). This can be very frightening to some small children and annoying to those with frequent guests. Some will chew up everything in your house, including the house itself. This happens with many dogs when they are in the puppy stage, but they grow out of it. Many border collies will never grow out of it. My current border collie is over 10 years old and I can't use a normal dog bed with her because she even shredded a kevlar dog bed I bought that was allegedly chew proof. They will constantly bark if left outside alone, and they should never be left alone. They are even more social than other dogs and it's best not to get one if you only plan on having one dog.

Most of these problems have a solution, and the solution is border collies need both physical, but more importantly mental exercise. They need tasks to perform. Sometimes this can be satisfied by daily walks, but with some it can not and they need more intensive exercises like problem solving. In short, they are high maintenance dogs. Like most breeds they are purpose bred, but in this case the purpose is complex and intensive. They need that level of activity to keep them happy. If you want a dog that will lay around the house all day and be satisfied, get a golden retriever. Those dogs are a better fit for people who are going to dedicate their lives to maintaining them and that commitment is going to be higher than for most other types of dogs.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
93. I've heard those warnings about
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:51 PM
Mar 2020

border collies and don't doubt it. Laddie chewed everything in sight, past the puppy teething stage, but learned not to, and became a model of good indoor behavior. The change had a lot to do with social bonding, which Laddie craved.

While I was at work, he pulled a shirt off a hanger in the closet, chewed off all the buttons, and chewed up the hem of a suit jacket. But one day when I came home too tired to deal with it, I broke down and cried. Literal tears, while saying, "Oh, Laddie. How could you?" He had tipped over the kitchen trash and dragged EVERY bit of garbage from it. Carried pieces through the dining room, into the living room. He had also grabbed the end of the toilet paper roll and unravelled it through the bedroom and into the living room. Looked like we'd been attacked by Halloween vandals.

I cried as I cleaned it up and kept sobbing things like, "Why do you do this?" My tone was disappointed and defeated. It penetrated. Laddie was, as you say, very social. He picked up my disappointment. My husband and I were a young, active couple who had given him a lot of attention. We had played with him, taught him tricks, let him out for exercise with us, and bonded with him.

Laddie sensed the change in my mood and our bond that day. He made the connection between that and what he had done. I pointed to the garbage can and said, "No, no." Repeated that with the closet and toilet paper. Firmly, but not harshly. The goal was communication, not venting at him. He got it. We bought him chew toys and squeaky toys. Pointed at them and said, "Good Laddie." Pointed at foridden things and said, "Bad Laddie." Took him everywhere, like shopping, even if he had to stay in the car.

He improved remarkably. Stopped all destructive behavior. Same thing happened with housebreaking when he was younger. No matter how regularly we took him outdoors, he messed inside when he needed to. Until the day I was so tired of cleaning it up that my frustration and disappointment showed. While cleaning it, I said, "This is bad boy. No, no." Pointed to the door, took him into the yard and said,"Good boy." He got it. Like, overnight, it sunk in and he was housebroken.

The key with him was always his desire to maintain a happy bond with us. Plus the incredible capacity for border collies to learn and understand words and body language.

It was worth it for the magnificent companion he grew into. Excessive barking was never a problem with him. Barked only when people came to the door and stopped when told it was ok. Did not herd children without cause, like the example in the OP. It helped when we got another dog and he had company when we were gone.

Agree that they are not for everyone. You need to be active and interactive with them. Plus patient, affectionate, and treat them as part of the family because they are very social and want to belong. In return they will give you great loyalty, entertainment, affection, companionship, protection, amusement, good judgment, and happiness.


Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
96. Not all of them I've had exhibit typical behavior
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:02 PM
Mar 2020

Just like people, every one is different. You can't train them from bad behavior, especially if you give them alternatives. I always say that with my current border collie she will do or not do anything you want so long as she can understand what you want. But many people aren't going to want to invest that much time or effort and will instead just take them to the pound.

Every single border collie I have owned was one someone else didn't want. Every single one turned into a great dog, but not without considerable effort.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
104. Did you really mean to say that you
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 08:03 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Mon Mar 30, 2020, 08:55 PM - Edit history (1)

"CAN'T train them from bad behavior, especially if you give them alternatives"? A typo, maybe, that should read "CAN"?

Giving alternatives to get the message through about what we did and did not want worked well with Laddie.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
105. Yes, should be can
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 08:37 PM
Mar 2020

I don’t really have to work that hard to train either the border collie or the Aussie. The only difference is the Aussie is easily excitable and has less control over herself when she reaches critical mass. She was born with no tail and as we say goes from zero to full wiggle in .5 seconds. She is the gentlest dog I’ve ever had, though and definitely better around small children.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
106. i just realized in re-reading my own post that I goofed.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 08:53 PM
Mar 2020

I said, training "from good behavior" when it should have read "from bad behavior." I will go back and edit so it does not look so confusing.

That full wiggle must be some sight.


wnylib

(21,341 posts)
114. Oh, so beautiful and adorable.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:10 PM
Mar 2020

I love her just from her pic.

Too bad that I have no photos of Laddie to share. That was back in the 1970s. We had pics of him swimming in a creek and on land waiting eagerly for us to toss a stick. A funny one of him looking exasperated at our "new" 2 year old hound who had not yet learned the house rules.

But they got lost over the years through divorce, moving, remarriage, moving again, etc.

I have occasionally seen photos of border collies that resembled him somewhat, but not often. White face blaze, sable and black blend around the eyes and ears, shaded (black tipped) sable (reddish, not tan) on the shoulders, back, flanks, and tail. Everything else white. His coat seemed to glisten in some lighting, and dirt never stuck to him. Just rolled or flaked off when he groomed himself. He was stubborn about cleaning his own paws and coat after being in snow or dirt, like a cat. Would not let me clean him off. But he let me clip his claws with no trouble.

Very expressive face and eyes, but his default look was happy, eager, and alert. Only downside was a LOT of shedding. Had to vacuum often. I thought his undercoat would make good yarn if I knew how to spin it.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
111. I think I was willing to stick it out
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

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in training Laddie out of his destructive phase (and the earlier housebreaking problem) for a few reasons.

One is that he had already shown, very early, that he learned things quickly, with only praise. Never used treats in training him. So I knew he was smart and capable of learning. Two, his response to praise meant he liked learning and liked feeling like he belonged. Three, his very early demonstration of understanding words and gestures was so remarkable that I loved the feeling of being able to communicate so well with an animal.

So, when the problem behavior developed, I believed in his ability to learn more appropriate behavior. It was just a matter of communicating to him so that he understood. When he "got it" I could almost see the "aha" moment clicking in his brain. It showed in his eyes and posture.

He was like the prize pupil in a class who acts out in boredom. You know he is destined for great things if you can just get through to him. I had fallen in love with his puppy cuteness and smarts and could not give up on him. I was so glad later that I had not given up.

You will probably understand this almost scary abillity to communicate from your experience with border collies. Laddie had a large whiffle ball (his favorite) and a smaller tennis ball. He was not a year old yet when this happened. I never worked at teaching him what "Get the ..." meant. Once he knew the name of something, he produced it if I asked, "Where is the ...?" Or said, "Get the..."

So one day I said, "Get the ball, Laddie." He brought the whiffle ball. To see what he would do, I waved my hand dismissively and said, "Not this ball. The OTHER ball." He took off and returned with the tennis ball.

He had learned the word ball for both of them. His mind processed my gesture of dismissal and he heard the word ball with a distinguishing emphasis (the word other). He concluded correctly that I did not want the whiffle ball, but still wanted a ball. So the alternative was to get another thing called "ball."

That's a lot of mental processing for a dog who was not yet a year old and had never been deliberately taught to distinguish between the two balls.

Too many other examples of his ability to pick up language nuances to describe here.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
113. One of my previous border collies was scary with his seemingly unlimited vocabulary
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:59 PM
Mar 2020

That dog lived to fetch a ball. He would play fetch until he was incapable physically of running anymore without a rest and you wouldn't know he was getting to that point until he just plopped down. We had to limit the number of throws and ration out his play time.

You couldn't say "ball" anywhere in the house without him going nuts. So we started spelling out b-a-l-l. Within a couple of days he figured out what that meant as well. We would use other words in place of ball and he figured those out. You could speak to him in a normal conversational tone and he understood countless commands. You could also use previous commands with words he understood and he would usually figure out what you wanted him to do. He would actually watch TV with us and had some sense of what was going on, and would occassionally bark or growl at other animals on the TV. His favorite movie was "My Dog Skip" and he would sit still and watch the entire thing.

He was huge for a border collie at 80lbs and that was after he lost weight. He was overweight when we got him and we had to slowly ration his food to get him back to a normal weight.

Then one day he got into the trash and ate some chicken bones which gave him pancreatitis which killed him. I miss that dog just about every day.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
116. Laddie was like that with language, too.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:58 PM
Mar 2020

He learned spelled words, understood normal conversational language, picked up new word and phrase meanings from context with other words. It was downright spooky, sometimes.

When I was a teen, my family had a black lab/border collie mix. That dog also had a remarkable vocabulary of spoken and spelled words. There was a mom and pop corner store on our street. If that dog heard someone say, "I'm going to the s.t.o.r.e. Want anything?" the dog grabbed his leash and carried it to the person who had spoken. Knew everyone's name. Watched TV and barked at injustice, like scenes of somebody getting beat up. He tried to herd kids playing and would get between them to stop normal wrestling play. He did learn not to interfere with their play, sort of. Still tried, but stopped when told, "No, no."

Laddie had only a passing interest in TV. Did not try herding kids, except the time in the OP when there was a real danger. He acted from judgment as well as instinct. Also had more nuanced perception of situations and language than my family's dog.



mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
99. Goldens
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

I've had one that had papers. Three that were mixes from either the animal shelter or a rescue group.

They've all had great temperaments. Laid back. Got along with kitties. Not into chewing things up. Loyal. Playful. Maybe not the smartest, but all very sweet.

We had one--all black that I think was Golden and Black Lab mixed--she looked like a black Golden Retriever. Tanya was smart. And she had a nose.

Years ago, when we lived in Nebraska--where she was adopted from the local animal shelter--we had a 3 story house. I hired the window washing guys to come clean out the gutters one fall. After they left, one came back later that afternoon and asked to look around the sides of the house. He'd lost his wallet--he thought on our job--and it had all the cash in it he needed to make rent. He walked the perimeter of the house, but didn't find it.

The next morning I was looking out the kitchen window and saw Tanya with something out in the fenced pool area. I went out to see what she had--hoping it wasn't a dead animal--and guess what! It was the wallet! I looked inside, and yes, there was a lot of cash!
I called the guy who'd left his number--just in case--and when he arrived about an hour later he had a box of Milk Bones as a reward for Tanya.

Good girl!

Here she is, sitting on the diving board at the Nebraska house. No, she never went in the pool.


blue neen

(12,319 posts)
108. Papillons.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 09:42 PM
Mar 2020


Incredibly smart and loyal. They make terrific lap dogs but are also very trainable, as in agility training.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
117. My neighbor has a papillon.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 12:50 AM
Mar 2020

Smart, friendly, and so cute with those big ears. I love those ears. They give the dog chatcter and a unique look.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
109. Where's all the BEAGLE love???
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:15 PM
Mar 2020

Our Bailey is the sweetest pup!

The family also has a Boxer, a Puggle, and a Coon Hound. Love them all, each for their unique reason.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
120. My grandfather had a beagle
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:08 AM
Mar 2020

when I was a kid. We had a huge extended family that gathered at his house for Xmas every year. The dog remained calm an unruffled with all the noise and fuss. Extremely good with all the kids around, even the little ones who petted him in the wrong direction.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
124. Agreed. Beagles are wonderful family dogs.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:18 AM
Mar 2020

They take a lot of wear and tear, especially from the little ones in the family. And, OH, those eyes!

Bailey actually belongs to my son and his family, so he's considered to be my Granddog. Of course there's the five+ minutes of arrival hysteria when I walk through the door, but then he's by my side during my entire visit to the point of walking me to the bathroom. On those nights when I stay over, he's sleeping with his head on my pillow. Sweet, sweet boy.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
140. We had Beagles growing up and they were such sweet dogs!
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 10:48 PM
Apr 2020

My mother wasn't a dog person and always wanted us to chain her up out in the barn at night, but my sister and I would sneak her into the house and sleep in my bed together with the dog hidden under the covers. She had her own room and my mother would ask why we were sleeping together and we told her we were scared.

She would say, "I hope that dog isn't in here!" and we would say "No, we put her out already." Of course we were lying and the dog was smart enough to know not to reveal herself while my mother was in the room. We would take her out in the morning and were never found out. We could never bear leaving her on her own in the barn all night. I always thought it was cruel. Dogs belong in the house.

Upthevibe

(8,015 posts)
122. I mentioned above that I grew up with a part Dachshund/part Beagle..
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:11 AM
Mar 2020

and he was the best, sweetest, and most adorable furry critter I've ever had in my entire life. There's a lot of Beagle love from me!

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
126. I'm just surprised there was so little mention in the thread about beagles.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:24 AM
Mar 2020

Thought there'd be many more posts about these sweet furbabies.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,144 posts)
110. We had a beagle that was just the best doggy dog
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:17 PM
Mar 2020

I loved his "Ahrooo"! He would sit on top of his doghouse like Snoopy. He would "chase" helicopters - LOL. He was hilarious.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
125. Beagles are among the cutest puppies.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:23 AM
Mar 2020

My cat likes to watch videos. One of her favorites is a Snoopy cartoon. It shows Snoopy leaning over linus from a treetop, like a vulture ready to pounce on Linus to take his blanket. I think the cat relates to the "ready to pounce" posture.

Or, maybe she remembers her pal from the house where she was born. They had a beagle that she was best buds with until I took her at 9 weeks old. The beagle was very disturbed when we put the kitty in a carrier and howled when I walked out with her.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
123. I love a lot of breeds, but I would have to say my favorite is the Golden Retriever.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:15 AM
Mar 2020

They are just so loving, affectionate, sweet and kind. Of all the breeds my family has had, they have been the most loving and cuddly. They are almost human.

We have also had a lot of Labradors as well, and I love them too, but they are a little more independent and aloof than Goldens. They are very sweet, but not quite as people oriented. They aren't quite as warm as Goldens.

We had one Rottweiler who I adored, but she only liked certain people. She loved me and a few others, but if she didn't like you, she could be a bit hostile. She was so darling though. I just loved her to pieces.

My sister now has a Swiss Mountain Dog who I also adore. She is such a sweet, loving, gentle dog. So good natured and such an easy going personality. She isn't as cuddly or affectionate as a Golden, but she will allow you to lavish affection upon her when she is in a relaxed mood.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
127. I knew a blind man who had a Golden
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:32 AM
Mar 2020

for a guide dog. The guy was a student on a college campus and the dog took him everywhere expertly. Everyone loved the dog, who remained professional while still being friendly.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
128. I have liked German Shepherd Dogs since I was a kid.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:24 AM
Mar 2020

My love for German Shepherds started when my best friend had a German Shepherd Brutis who was so smart and friendly.

A few years later my next door neighbor and riding instructor had four beautiful German shepherds. Humptulips ( Hummpy, ) Agie, Gruff, and Roy.

Years later when I was a young adult I had my German Shepherd Sphynx. She was such a smart and loving puppy. I got into a really bad auto accident and they had to rehome her.

Years later I got Shultz. He was my service dog and we had a bond that was stronger than any other I had. He was so smart and some of the things I needed him to do I did not need to train him because he just seemed to automatically figure out what I needed.

I also had Freja who got into an accident and it was getting hard to support two German Shepherds and 4 cats. A friend of mine said she would take her even knowing she will always have expensive health issues. For Freja it was the best decision. She was absolutely in love with my friends husband. I did get to visit her.

I would love to have another German Shepherd but unless I get back to the point I need a large service dog again I am not allowed large dogs where I live.

German Shepherds are so smart, versatile, friendly, even tempered, and just beautiful.

The breeder who I got Shultz and Freja from had this saying on her website. "If it's not a German Shepherd Dog, it's not a dog."

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
129. Whew. Some tough breaks you had. Hope
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:47 AM
Mar 2020

you are doing better now.

I was always a bit wary of German Shepherds because of their use by some people and organizations that trained them to be attack guard dogs.

But when I separated from my husband, I moved in with a coworker who had a German shepherd. The dog was a gentle, smart, and playful pet, but also very protective. She (the dog) accepted me as a household member and extended her protectiveness to me. I appreciated her intelligence when she took a dislike to my husband.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
131. I have a few friends who were scared of German Shepherds.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:10 AM
Mar 2020

Shultz changed their minds about German Shepherds.


Some people think a guard dog is supposed to be vicious. Police dogs are not vicious they ate only obeying a command.

After my accident and had been out of the hospital for awhile my friend took me to the fair. Well, at this fair the police were demonstrating the work the K-9 dogs did. Well, one of the officers gave his German Shepherd the command to attack the guy in the suit to protect him. Well, as this dog was making a bee line to attack this person me not yet mentally with it yet called the dog while patting my lap. Well, this seasoned German Shepherd took a sharp turn and ran over to me and put his big head on my lap looked up at me with those German Shepherd eyes while wagging his tail. The officer was not happy and everybody was laughing. The dog got to retire soon after that.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
133. LOL. I was never concerned about
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:09 AM
Mar 2020

police dogs because I know they are well trained to do a job. It's the people who like to have "tough" pets because they think it makes them tough that bother me. They raise dogs to be mean. Also, German shepherds were one of the breeds used by the Gestapo in WWII. So I knew they had the capacity to be vicious if trained that way.

But the roommate's dog was raised to be an affectionate pet and that's what she was. Sweet and gentle.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
134. I have run into people that have no clue they are actually herding dogs.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:32 AM
Mar 2020

The lady who I got my Shultz and Freja from did herding with all of her German Shepherd. No Shutshund at all.

Right after we got Shultz he came bounding into the living room around my husband. My husband said to me, "I do not understand why he keeps herding us around." To which I replied German ShepHERD." His reply, "oh, yeah."

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
135. Standard Poodle
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:55 AM
Mar 2020

Don’t shed much. Really smart. Border collies are smarter but border collies have to work or they are unhappy. Standard Poodles are big enough to stand up to coyotes, a concern when I lived in Laurel Canyon in Los Angeles. My dog Sam taught me the meaning of life.

Wolf Frankula

(3,598 posts)
142. Long eared doggies.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 01:14 AM
Apr 2020

Beagles and Bassets. I have a neighbor who has a beagle, and we get along super. I do not have the time or energy to take proper care of a Basset Hound. But if I did, I would have one.

Wolf

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