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I just got my COVID test results back. I'm NEGATIVE! (Original Post) Laffy Kat Apr 2020 OP
Wonderful news, Yes, please continue to be very careful. niyad Apr 2020 #1
I will, I will. We ALL need to be careful as hell. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #6
Not necessarily. It only means you are antigen negative now. hlthe2b Apr 2020 #2
True. Thanks, hlthe2b. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #5
Good news underpants Apr 2020 #3
Whew... 2naSalit Apr 2020 #4
Great news! softydog88 Apr 2020 #7
There's up to a 40% false negative on the CDC test. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #8
I sure don't think so, I never did think so. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #11
Good. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #22
That's what's so scary about the disease, there is no telling how people will react and why. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #23
great news. remember this? spike jones Apr 2020 #9
LOL. I still miss the show. nt Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #31
When I saw the Swedish subtitles, I started reading them and ignored the dialogue DFW Apr 2020 #39
I never mastered another language. In the little school I attended back in the mountain hollow, spike jones Apr 2020 #44
When I was a kid in Virginia, we sometimes visited towns like that DFW Apr 2020 #46
I grew-up in the Blue Ridge Mountains in SC, escaped after college, and not been back for 55 years, spike jones Apr 2020 #49
I have had somewhat similar situations DFW Apr 2020 #50
The best news Laffy Kay! kairos12 Apr 2020 #10
Thanks. I'm going going to missing sitting home all day with my laptop and DU! Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #14
I want to get tested just to find out if I have the antibodies BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #12
I do, too. We are probably a couple of months out from that test. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #15
If they tested people now and found a lot BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #16
Yes, it does! They are taking plasma from the survivors and infusing it into the very ill. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #18
This is a good article that I just read. BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #21
I know they've had luck with plasma infusions and Ebola. t Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #36
NIH just rolled out a program looking for 10,000 volunteers DeminPennswoods Apr 2020 #48
Thanks! BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #55
It's great news. ancianita Apr 2020 #13
Oh, I know! I really worry more about my sons than myself. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #17
Yaaay! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #19
Oh, thanks, SheltieLov. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #24
I recall you saying you knew you would be negative SheltieLover Apr 2020 #28
Yes, back to work at the clinic. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #32
Being negative is a positive thing. Harker Apr 2020 #20
Yes, it is. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #25
This 50 year Coloradan Harker Apr 2020 #27
Yeah Gothmog Apr 2020 #26
Believe me, I will. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #33
I wish we could get tested here in Germany DFW Apr 2020 #29
I don't know about Germany, but I'm hoping more people will be able to get tested here... Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #35
In the capital city of our state of Nordrhein-Westfalen DFW Apr 2020 #37
Gosh, DFW, hang in there. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #38
They would LOVE to let me. But I can't DFW Apr 2020 #40
I understand. I used to work for a physician who spent a lot his time traveling. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #41
Probably no one would have heard of Fauci if the current situation hadn't arisen DFW Apr 2020 #42
Oh, Fauci has been well-known in academia for 30 years. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #45
I'm sure he's an icon in his field DFW Apr 2020 #47
were you showing signs of the disease before the test? beachbumbob Apr 2020 #30
I had a fever for just a couple of hours and developed a cough. Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #34
Congrats and good luck nt localroger Apr 2020 #43
so a negative test means no antibodies? hubbys was negative as well.. samnsara Apr 2020 #51
Yay! DarthDem Apr 2020 #52
You were negative at the time the test was taken jberryhill Apr 2020 #53
Great news! MissMillie Apr 2020 #54

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
2. Not necessarily. It only means you are antigen negative now.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 09:07 PM
Apr 2020

We really don't know yet if asymptomatic infection or subclinical/mild infection results in an immune response yet. (i.e., had you experienced such an infection earlier). Hopefully, this will be sorted out soon when antibody tests come online.

But, congrats on being able to go back to work!

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
11. I sure don't think so, I never did think so.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:08 PM
Apr 2020

It's a bad cough, an asthma flare, and an upper respiratory infection. I was floored when the doctor isolated me. I only had a couple of hours of fever at the onset, no shortness of breath or aches.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
22. Good.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:41 PM
Apr 2020

I have a good friend who tested negative, even though she had all the symptoms. Then her daughter got it (they had quarantined together). Her daughter was diagnosed with Covid-19 after she was hospitalized. Oddly, my 50 year old friend had an easier recovery than her 25 year old daughter, whose lungs filled up with fluid. They are both home now. Thank goodness.

So glad you're doing well.


Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
23. That's what's so scary about the disease, there is no telling how people will react and why.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:12 AM
Apr 2020

I'm glad your friends are recovering.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
39. When I saw the Swedish subtitles, I started reading them and ignored the dialogue
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:31 PM
Apr 2020

Then I realized it was New York English. I think I understood the Swedish better!

spike jones

(1,678 posts)
44. I never mastered another language. In the little school I attended back in the mountain hollow,
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:07 PM
Apr 2020

English was taught as a second language.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
46. When I was a kid in Virginia, we sometimes visited towns like that
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 04:47 AM
Apr 2020

Just 2 hours drive southwest from Falls Church, and I needed an interpreter.

On the boat home from Spain when I was 17, I met and hung around with with some guys from Sweden. They invited me to visit them in central Sweden, which I did the next summer. I felt like an idiot when I got there, as they all spoke near-fluent English, and I understood nothing if what they were saying. I resolved to learn some of their language before then next summer. I entered college that fall, and enrolled in a Swedish course.

I lucked out and got a brilliant professor who spoke only Swedish from day one, choosing her words carefully. Many Swedish words are similar to English, you just have to get used to the pronunciation. It turned out that Swedish is by far the easiest Germanic language for an English-speaking person to learn, and my professor chose words that were similar to ease our introduction into her langauge. German and Dutch (which I learned later on) are far more complicated.

So, I returned a year later to Sweden, able to hold a decent conversation, and my Swedish friends were all amazed, saying "how did you do THAT?" I told them their language wasn't so difficult, it just had to be explained by someone who knew how to do it. Swedish, Norwegian and Danish are essentially the same language. Norwegian is close enough that I can hold a conversation with Norwegians with me speaking Swedish and them speaking Norwegian, and everyone understands what the other is saying. Danish is the problem child. Written, it isn't difficult to understand (if you know Swedish, that is), but when spoken, it is like the "mountain hollow" of Scandinavia.

spike jones

(1,678 posts)
49. I grew-up in the Blue Ridge Mountains in SC, escaped after college, and not been back for 55 years,
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:14 AM
Apr 2020

but I still have the accent. In business it has often worked to my advantage. People hear the southern hillbilly accent and think that this guy must be dumb as a rock and let their guard down. By the time they realize their mistake, the deal is already done.
In college I had to take two years of German and barely passed only because I could translate it well but have never spoken it since. The professor always had a pained look on his face when it was my turn to speak. I have a poor ear for language. My grandchildren were taught Spanish and Latin at a very early age and had an easy time with them. My “ear” is so poor that I often use subtitles when watching a British film because of the accent.
Surprisingly, I have always been able to understand Bob Dylan’s songs perfectly.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
50. I have had somewhat similar situations
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:27 AM
Apr 2020

The moment people hear I am from the USA (and the South, at that!), they assume that the only language I could possibly know is English. I often say nothing until it is absolutely necessary, and then watch their jaws drop.

One time, I was with a friend from Greece who had grown in up in Canada, where his father was a military attaché for the Greek government. He had married a woman from Sweden, and lived there for many years, and was fluent in Swedish and English. He and I were once having breakfast at a hotel in the Netherlands, seated across from an elderly couple from Sweden. They were having a conversation about how infested the hotel was with "foreigners," glancing at my Greek friend and me. We said nothing, although we understood every word they said. Then they started complaining about the service, which was indeed slow. The woman got up and grabbed the coffee pot and filled the cups of her husband and herself. Being the polite Scandinavian, she asked us in English if we would like some coffee before she returned the pot to the heater. We said yes, thank you, and then continued in Swedish, saying, "by the way, you don't have to switch to English on our account. We both are fluent in Swedish." Their jaws dropped to the floor, and, needless to say, the comments about the dirty foreigners ceased altogether.

Another time, I was in a small commuter plane from Brussels to Düsseldorf, and the sun was just setting. There were a group of businessmen from northeastern Spain on the flight, all speaking Catalan. I had a window seat, and one of the Catalans was next to me. He was talking to his colleagues and at one point tried to read off a document, but was having trouble due to the glare from the window. I said "puc tancar la finestra si vol," which is the polite form of "I can close the window if you wish." Without reflection, he said, "si, gràcies (yes, thanks)," and turned back to his colleagues before he realized that I had spoken to him in his own language. "Did you just speak to me in Catalan?" I said, yes, I did. He asked if I was Catalan, and I said, no American. How in the world do you know Catalan? Oh, I lived in Barcelona for a while when I was a teenager.

The sister of my daughter's boyfriend once joined us at a concert in Stuttgart, and we had never met. She knew I was American, but that is all she knew, so she started speaking English to me. I answered back in English. She started telling me she knew how awfully difficult German was for us (stupid--implied, not expressed aloud) Americans to learn. I said, really? It doesn't sound so difficult. She said, oh yes, Americans have a very hard time with German words. I said it sounded easy to me. What word did she have in mind? Figuring she would lose me completely, she said, "Streichholzschächtelchen," which means "little match box." I repeated it back to her perfectly, and asked, "what's so hard about that?" She just stammered, "well, most Americans can't say it." I asked if she had asked "most Americans," or was that just an assumption on her part?

I have a lot of fun that way! And, over the years, I have left a lot of Europeans a lot less secure in their certainty how stupid and ignorant we Americans are. If a German starts to confirm it to me, I just ask if he or she has ever heard about Erwin Kreuz and "I left my heart in Bangor?" Most haven't, but when they look him up, I remind them that each country has its own county bumpkins, but it doesn't mean we all are.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
12. I want to get tested just to find out if I have the antibodies
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:08 PM
Apr 2020

or not. I found out about 20 years ago that I had German measles but never had any symptoms when I was young. If I am asymptomatic and have antibodies could I donate my plasma to help infected people?

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
16. If they tested people now and found a lot
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:15 PM
Apr 2020

who are filled with antibodies than those people could donate their plasma to help others recover. Since we are 12-18 months from getting a vaccine approved, that may be the next best option for now. Doesn't that make sense?

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
18. Yes, it does! They are taking plasma from the survivors and infusing it into the very ill.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:19 PM
Apr 2020

I think it's in trials right now but it looks promising. Hopefully, we are going to see several new therapies and medications soon.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
21. This is a good article that I just read.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:30 PM
Apr 2020
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/best-case-scenario-for-coronavirus.html

"A new, small-sample serological survey in Germany holds more promising results: 14 percent of those tested carried coronavirus antibodies, meaning they’d already been exposed the disease, orders of magnitude more than is suggested by their confirmed case count of less than one-tenth of one percent of their population."

"In Iceland, such a system as been instituted, and though only one percent of those tested were found positive, the number for asymptomatic carriers is higher: 50 percent of infected Icelanders don’t know they are carrying COVID-19. This is twice as high as the WHO figure, as so, by this logic, relatively good news."

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
48. NIH just rolled out a program looking for 10,000 volunteers
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 07:51 AM
Apr 2020

to do just what you want. You can do your blood sample at home.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
13. It's great news.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:08 PM
Apr 2020

Just remember that the best world research on COVID-19 testing, done by Iceland, shows that it's likely that half of those you work with might have it and be asymptomatic.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/10/coronavirus-covid-19-small-nations-iceland-big-data/2959797001/

https://www.livescience.com/covid19-coronavirus-tests-false-negatives.html

Which means you'll have to have a regimen for every time you enter your house, before you enter your house after leaving work.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
17. Oh, I know! I really worry more about my sons than myself.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:16 PM
Apr 2020

I've got sixty-plus years behind me and they are only young adults. My oldest works at a hospital and is in charge of running around and making sure all the departments have the equipment and supplies they need, ordering, etc. He is in and out of all the departments all shift long. It worries me so much.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
28. I recall you saying you knew you would be negative
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:41 AM
Apr 2020

Which put my mind at ease.

So are you back to work tomorrow?

Be safe!

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
32. Yes, back to work at the clinic.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:17 PM
Apr 2020

I want to go back to work, but knowing it's another exposure risk is a little stressful. I will be extra, extra careful.

Harker

(14,012 posts)
27. This 50 year Coloradan
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:23 AM
Apr 2020

(Boulder, Loveland, Drake) and soon to be New Yorker sends his best to you and yours.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
33. Believe me, I will.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:18 PM
Apr 2020

Even though I was 90% sure I was negative, that 10% uncertainty still worried me.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
29. I wish we could get tested here in Germany
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 05:23 AM
Apr 2020

I spent the better part of a day trying to find some place that would test me, but was practically told to call back only if I died of the virus, and was more than a little sure of the cause.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
35. I don't know about Germany, but I'm hoping more people will be able to get tested here...
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:23 PM
Apr 2020

Within the next couple of weeks.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
37. In the capital city of our state of Nordrhein-Westfalen
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:26 PM
Apr 2020

Which is Düsseldorf, they have announced they will be testing 800 people a day. This being Germany, you can count on that excluding weekends and holidays. In about three years, that should just about get to everyone.

I hope it's better where you are.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
38. Gosh, DFW, hang in there.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

I guess I don't have to tell you: in the meantime, be extra vigilant. I know you travel a lot. Are they letting you do more from home, I hope?

DFW

(54,341 posts)
40. They would LOVE to let me. But I can't
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:44 PM
Apr 2020

It would be the equivalent of asking the Bank of England to make a special trip to my house with the contents of their deepest treasury vaults, and ask me to review a hundred million worth of old banknotes and hundred fifty year old foreign gold coins for authenticity. It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. I have to inspect this stuff on site, which at the moment, I can't.

SO, my travel plans, as well as my job, are on hold for the moment. I'm still getting paid, but it's strictly charity for the moment, as I can't go anywhere and can't produce reports on anything. That can't last. Luckily, I am very conservative with respect to personal finances. My wife and I lead a rather modest lifestyle and never spend beyond our means, so we have enough of a reserve to last us years if need be. However, I have very little reserve left of boredom insurance, and I'm acutely feeling the lack of seeing my usual friends and work colleagues around Europe. Plus we can't see our granddaughter down in Frankfurt except by video clips. She get a little sibling in 2 months, and we hope things will let up by then, but it isn't looking hopeful. We REALLY hope we will be able to make it to Cape Cod beginning in July, especially hoping they will let my wife in, and then that the Germans will let her back at the end of the month. I have things I have to do in the States for a few weeks after that, but even they are anything but certain.

Having your whole life on hold in one place is a very odd feeling after working my ass off around the world for the last 45 years. If that is the price of staying alive, we'll gladly pay it, of course, but it's not anything we're used to.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
41. I understand. I used to work for a physician who spent a lot his time traveling.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:58 PM
Apr 2020

It becomes a way of life. I could tell how antsy he got after staying home for a while. He was lucky that he could usually take his wife with him and they seemed quite satisfied with the arrangement. They had been married since they turned 18 and couldn't stand to be apart. It was sweet.

On a related side note: The physician, focused on pediatric HIV, left for a sabbatical in 1993 while I was on maternity leave. He spent the year in Washington with Dr. Anthony Fauci! The next year he invited Fauci back to the Univesity of Colorado School of Medicine for a Grand Rounds. I met Fauci, but for the life of me can't remember a thing about him.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
42. Probably no one would have heard of Fauci if the current situation hadn't arisen
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:05 PM
Apr 2020

He was thrust into the limelight due to circumstances he certainly never expected.

My wife rarely wants to come with me on business. Cops, bureaucrats and high security areas bore the hell out of her. She will come on the rare occasion that I'll be somewhere for more than a day or two that she either likes, or hasn't yet seen. Washington, New York, Switzerland, Barcelona, Alaska. But down to Paris or Brussels or Bavaria for the day? No way. She just asks if I'll be home in time for dinner or not, and does her own thing during the day.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
34. I had a fever for just a couple of hours and developed a cough.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:22 PM
Apr 2020

I was almost certain it was simply a URI with an asthma flare but when I called the doctor, which I was obligated to do since I worked at the clinic, he didn't want to take any chances. He put me on isolation for 10 days. On Thursday I learned they were starting to order tests for employees who were in isolation, so I asked to be tested because if I was negative I could get back to work three days earlier.

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