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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsI just got my COVID test results back. I'm NEGATIVE!
I am returning to work on Monday. The bad part is, that also means I don't have antibodies, either. I am going to be so damn careful.
niyad
(113,257 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)We really don't know yet if asymptomatic infection or subclinical/mild infection results in an immune response yet. (i.e., had you experienced such an infection earlier). Hopefully, this will be sorted out soon when antibody tests come online.
But, congrats on being able to go back to work!
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)underpants
(182,763 posts)2naSalit
(86,532 posts)Good to hear!
softydog88
(126 posts)And yes, be damn careful as an example to those who are not.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)You may still have it. Please be careful.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)It's a bad cough, an asthma flare, and an upper respiratory infection. I was floored when the doctor isolated me. I only had a couple of hours of fever at the onset, no shortness of breath or aches.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I have a good friend who tested negative, even though she had all the symptoms. Then her daughter got it (they had quarantined together). Her daughter was diagnosed with Covid-19 after she was hospitalized. Oddly, my 50 year old friend had an easier recovery than her 25 year old daughter, whose lungs filled up with fluid. They are both home now. Thank goodness.
So glad you're doing well.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)I'm glad your friends are recovering.
spike jones
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|Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)DFW
(54,341 posts)Then I realized it was New York English. I think I understood the Swedish better!
spike jones
(1,678 posts)English was taught as a second language.
DFW
(54,341 posts)Just 2 hours drive southwest from Falls Church, and I needed an interpreter.
On the boat home from Spain when I was 17, I met and hung around with with some guys from Sweden. They invited me to visit them in central Sweden, which I did the next summer. I felt like an idiot when I got there, as they all spoke near-fluent English, and I understood nothing if what they were saying. I resolved to learn some of their language before then next summer. I entered college that fall, and enrolled in a Swedish course.
I lucked out and got a brilliant professor who spoke only Swedish from day one, choosing her words carefully. Many Swedish words are similar to English, you just have to get used to the pronunciation. It turned out that Swedish is by far the easiest Germanic language for an English-speaking person to learn, and my professor chose words that were similar to ease our introduction into her langauge. German and Dutch (which I learned later on) are far more complicated.
So, I returned a year later to Sweden, able to hold a decent conversation, and my Swedish friends were all amazed, saying "how did you do THAT?" I told them their language wasn't so difficult, it just had to be explained by someone who knew how to do it. Swedish, Norwegian and Danish are essentially the same language. Norwegian is close enough that I can hold a conversation with Norwegians with me speaking Swedish and them speaking Norwegian, and everyone understands what the other is saying. Danish is the problem child. Written, it isn't difficult to understand (if you know Swedish, that is), but when spoken, it is like the "mountain hollow" of Scandinavia.
spike jones
(1,678 posts)but I still have the accent. In business it has often worked to my advantage. People hear the southern hillbilly accent and think that this guy must be dumb as a rock and let their guard down. By the time they realize their mistake, the deal is already done.
In college I had to take two years of German and barely passed only because I could translate it well but have never spoken it since. The professor always had a pained look on his face when it was my turn to speak. I have a poor ear for language. My grandchildren were taught Spanish and Latin at a very early age and had an easy time with them. My ear is so poor that I often use subtitles when watching a British film because of the accent.
Surprisingly, I have always been able to understand Bob Dylans songs perfectly.
DFW
(54,341 posts)The moment people hear I am from the USA (and the South, at that!), they assume that the only language I could possibly know is English. I often say nothing until it is absolutely necessary, and then watch their jaws drop.
One time, I was with a friend from Greece who had grown in up in Canada, where his father was a military attaché for the Greek government. He had married a woman from Sweden, and lived there for many years, and was fluent in Swedish and English. He and I were once having breakfast at a hotel in the Netherlands, seated across from an elderly couple from Sweden. They were having a conversation about how infested the hotel was with "foreigners," glancing at my Greek friend and me. We said nothing, although we understood every word they said. Then they started complaining about the service, which was indeed slow. The woman got up and grabbed the coffee pot and filled the cups of her husband and herself. Being the polite Scandinavian, she asked us in English if we would like some coffee before she returned the pot to the heater. We said yes, thank you, and then continued in Swedish, saying, "by the way, you don't have to switch to English on our account. We both are fluent in Swedish." Their jaws dropped to the floor, and, needless to say, the comments about the dirty foreigners ceased altogether.
Another time, I was in a small commuter plane from Brussels to Düsseldorf, and the sun was just setting. There were a group of businessmen from northeastern Spain on the flight, all speaking Catalan. I had a window seat, and one of the Catalans was next to me. He was talking to his colleagues and at one point tried to read off a document, but was having trouble due to the glare from the window. I said "puc tancar la finestra si vol," which is the polite form of "I can close the window if you wish." Without reflection, he said, "si, gràcies (yes, thanks)," and turned back to his colleagues before he realized that I had spoken to him in his own language. "Did you just speak to me in Catalan?" I said, yes, I did. He asked if I was Catalan, and I said, no American. How in the world do you know Catalan? Oh, I lived in Barcelona for a while when I was a teenager.
The sister of my daughter's boyfriend once joined us at a concert in Stuttgart, and we had never met. She knew I was American, but that is all she knew, so she started speaking English to me. I answered back in English. She started telling me she knew how awfully difficult German was for us (stupid--implied, not expressed aloud) Americans to learn. I said, really? It doesn't sound so difficult. She said, oh yes, Americans have a very hard time with German words. I said it sounded easy to me. What word did she have in mind? Figuring she would lose me completely, she said, "Streichholzschächtelchen," which means "little match box." I repeated it back to her perfectly, and asked, "what's so hard about that?" She just stammered, "well, most Americans can't say it." I asked if she had asked "most Americans," or was that just an assumption on her part?
I have a lot of fun that way! And, over the years, I have left a lot of Europeans a lot less secure in their certainty how stupid and ignorant we Americans are. If a German starts to confirm it to me, I just ask if he or she has ever heard about Erwin Kreuz and "I left my heart in Bangor?" Most haven't, but when they look him up, I remind them that each country has its own county bumpkins, but it doesn't mean we all are.
kairos12
(12,852 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)or not. I found out about 20 years ago that I had German measles but never had any symptoms when I was young. If I am asymptomatic and have antibodies could I donate my plasma to help infected people?
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)who are filled with antibodies than those people could donate their plasma to help others recover. Since we are 12-18 months from getting a vaccine approved, that may be the next best option for now. Doesn't that make sense?
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)I think it's in trials right now but it looks promising. Hopefully, we are going to see several new therapies and medications soon.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)"A new, small-sample serological survey in Germany holds more promising results: 14 percent of those tested carried coronavirus antibodies, meaning theyd already been exposed the disease, orders of magnitude more than is suggested by their confirmed case count of less than one-tenth of one percent of their population."
"In Iceland, such a system as been instituted, and though only one percent of those tested were found positive, the number for asymptomatic carriers is higher: 50 percent of infected Icelanders dont know they are carrying COVID-19. This is twice as high as the WHO figure, as so, by this logic, relatively good news."
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)to do just what you want. You can do your blood sample at home.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)I just signed up/wrote them a gmail stating I'd like to volunteer. Hope I am picked!
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Just remember that the best world research on COVID-19 testing, done by Iceland, shows that it's likely that half of those you work with might have it and be asymptomatic.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/10/coronavirus-covid-19-small-nations-iceland-big-data/2959797001/
https://www.livescience.com/covid19-coronavirus-tests-false-negatives.html
Which means you'll have to have a regimen for every time you enter your house, before you enter your house after leaving work.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)I've got sixty-plus years behind me and they are only young adults. My oldest works at a hospital and is in charge of running around and making sure all the departments have the equipment and supplies they need, ordering, etc. He is in and out of all the departments all shift long. It worries me so much.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)So happy for you Laffy😺
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)I wasn't worried.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Which put my mind at ease.
So are you back to work tomorrow?
Be safe!
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)I want to go back to work, but knowing it's another exposure risk is a little stressful. I will be extra, extra careful.
Harker
(14,012 posts)Hooray!
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)Harker
(14,012 posts)(Boulder, Loveland, Drake) and soon to be New Yorker sends his best to you and yours.
Gothmog
(145,126 posts)Please be careful
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)Even though I was 90% sure I was negative, that 10% uncertainty still worried me.
DFW
(54,341 posts)I spent the better part of a day trying to find some place that would test me, but was practically told to call back only if I died of the virus, and was more than a little sure of the cause.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)Within the next couple of weeks.
DFW
(54,341 posts)Which is Düsseldorf, they have announced they will be testing 800 people a day. This being Germany, you can count on that excluding weekends and holidays. In about three years, that should just about get to everyone.
I hope it's better where you are.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)I guess I don't have to tell you: in the meantime, be extra vigilant. I know you travel a lot. Are they letting you do more from home, I hope?
DFW
(54,341 posts)It would be the equivalent of asking the Bank of England to make a special trip to my house with the contents of their deepest treasury vaults, and ask me to review a hundred million worth of old banknotes and hundred fifty year old foreign gold coins for authenticity. It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. I have to inspect this stuff on site, which at the moment, I can't.
SO, my travel plans, as well as my job, are on hold for the moment. I'm still getting paid, but it's strictly charity for the moment, as I can't go anywhere and can't produce reports on anything. That can't last. Luckily, I am very conservative with respect to personal finances. My wife and I lead a rather modest lifestyle and never spend beyond our means, so we have enough of a reserve to last us years if need be. However, I have very little reserve left of boredom insurance, and I'm acutely feeling the lack of seeing my usual friends and work colleagues around Europe. Plus we can't see our granddaughter down in Frankfurt except by video clips. She get a little sibling in 2 months, and we hope things will let up by then, but it isn't looking hopeful. We REALLY hope we will be able to make it to Cape Cod beginning in July, especially hoping they will let my wife in, and then that the Germans will let her back at the end of the month. I have things I have to do in the States for a few weeks after that, but even they are anything but certain.
Having your whole life on hold in one place is a very odd feeling after working my ass off around the world for the last 45 years. If that is the price of staying alive, we'll gladly pay it, of course, but it's not anything we're used to.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)It becomes a way of life. I could tell how antsy he got after staying home for a while. He was lucky that he could usually take his wife with him and they seemed quite satisfied with the arrangement. They had been married since they turned 18 and couldn't stand to be apart. It was sweet.
On a related side note: The physician, focused on pediatric HIV, left for a sabbatical in 1993 while I was on maternity leave. He spent the year in Washington with Dr. Anthony Fauci! The next year he invited Fauci back to the Univesity of Colorado School of Medicine for a Grand Rounds. I met Fauci, but for the life of me can't remember a thing about him.
DFW
(54,341 posts)He was thrust into the limelight due to circumstances he certainly never expected.
My wife rarely wants to come with me on business. Cops, bureaucrats and high security areas bore the hell out of her. She will come on the rare occasion that I'll be somewhere for more than a day or two that she either likes, or hasn't yet seen. Washington, New York, Switzerland, Barcelona, Alaska. But down to Paris or Brussels or Bavaria for the day? No way. She just asks if I'll be home in time for dinner or not, and does her own thing during the day.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)Especially in infectious diseases.
DFW
(54,341 posts)Just not to us non-specialists in infectious diseases.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)I was almost certain it was simply a URI with an asthma flare but when I called the doctor, which I was obligated to do since I worked at the clinic, he didn't want to take any chances. He put me on isolation for 10 days. On Thursday I learned they were starting to order tests for employees who were in isolation, so I asked to be tested because if I was negative I could get back to work three days earlier.
localroger
(3,626 posts)samnsara
(17,615 posts)DarthDem
(5,255 posts)Good to hear this! Stay safe.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Whether you are now is unknown.
MissMillie
(38,548 posts)I'll take news like that (for all of us) any day.