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Related: Culture Forums, Support Forums*2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968) 8:00 TCM
Classic sci-fi epic about a mysterious monolith that seems to play a key role in human evolution.
Dir: Stanley Kubrick Cast: Keir Dullea, Gary Lockwood, William Sylvester
C-149 mins, CC, Letterbox Format
Winner of an Oscar for Best Effects, Special Visual Effects -- Stanley Kubrick (Stanley Kubrick was not present at the awards ceremony. Presenters Diahann Carroll and Burt Lancaster accepted the award on his behalf.)
PJMcK
(21,998 posts)Thanks, elleng!
This is a favorite.
elleng
(130,757 posts)but adding anxiety/stress may not be the best thing right now; will see how it goes.
'HUMAN ERROR!!!' Imagine THAT!!!
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)in defiance of nearly everyone,
I think "2010: The Year We Make Contact" is a far better flick. ( and as a bonus, it has Helen Mirren!)
Jeebo
(2,021 posts)Mine would be Forbidden Planet, The Day the Earth Stood Still (the original, not that pathetic remake), Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956 or 1978, take your pick), and War of the Worlds (the original, not that pathetic remake). Honorable Mention: There was an obscure German language film in 2013 called "The Wall" that wasn't even promoted or marketed as a science fiction movie, but it is because the title effect could only have been produced by an unseen extraterrestrial technology.
-- Ron
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)I'll have to see if I can find a way to watch that film.
PJMcK
(21,998 posts)This is just my opinion and in no particular order:
2001: A Space Odyssey (Human evolution from pre-history into the possible future)
Alien (corporate greed will dominate space exploration and exploitation)
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (the story's plot reveals flesh out the success of the "first" film; bonus points for being possibly the best movie sequel ever)
Blade Runner: The Director's Cut (An achingly human tale of survival... or are they replicants? I've chosen the version without Harrison Ford's voice-overs but not Ridley Scott's "final" edition because the ending is more satisfying)
Men In Black (an hysterically funny movie with a concept that challenges our perception of space and size)
Dagstead Bumwood
(3,599 posts)I shoulda held on to that Pan Am stock
edbermac
(15,933 posts)And saw it in a theater 2 years ago for the 50th anniversary.
One bone of contention - he should not have received the Oscar. That should have been given to the 4 FX supervisors. (At that time only 3 people were allowed for a group nomination.
Jeebo
(2,021 posts)Shucks, I think it's one of the best movies ever, of any genre. It's one of those movies that I just can't stop watching. When I'm flipping through the channels and there's a scene and it grabs me immediately and, as I said, I just can't stop watching. No matter how many times I've seen it. I think it's WAY better than the movie that won best picture that year. I think it's better than a lot of movies that won best picture other years.
Some people complain about all of that incomprehensible stuff that happens at the end -- I even heard one guy say that he thinks it's the worst movie he's ever seen for that reason. But I think that's one of the reasons this movie is so good. I think that incomprehensibility is a big part of the point of the film. If we humans ever encounter an extraterrestrial civilization that is that far ahead of us, wouldn't we find them to be incomprehensible? Would we understand them even as well as our pet dogs and cats understand us? There are perfectly good reasons why the end of that movie is so bewildering.
As I said, I think 2001 should have won best picture and that it's WAY better than the movie that did win best picture that year.
-- Ron
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)although I was already 20 and so probably should have, once I finally got around to seeing it I found it to be the most hilariously bad and pretentious science fiction movie ever. Men in monkey suits. Pan Am with crappy load factors that make it obvious it's going to go out of business eventually. A crazy computer? Really?
I have been a science fiction person my entire life. I even write a little bit of it. I go to science fiction events and count any number of well-known writers as personal friends. Heck, I even got to see the eclipse three years ago with one particularly well-known writer.
For my money the very best, most completely science fictional movie I've ever seen is 12 Monkeys. It is absolutely incredible. Bruce Willis and Brad Pitt are both totally amazing. The internal logic is impeccable. I recently re-watched it and loved it every bit as much as the several other times I've seen it.
Another s-f movie I like a lot is The Arrival which came out in 1996, not to be confused with the more recent movie Arrival. The first one works very well. The second one I find impossible to buy into, but since every other person who's ever seen it seems to think it's wonderful and ground breaking, I just don't know. Perhaps because I grew up reading science fiction, and reading a lot of it that I'm so picky about the TV shows or movies that are supposedly science fiction.
One recent and regrettably short-lived series is People of Earth which can be seen on Amazon Prime. A reporter goes to a small town north of NYC to interview a group of abductees, although they prefer to call themselves Experiencers. It is an absolute hoot and plays with all of the stereotypes out there of aliens and abduction. Unfortunately it was abruptly cancelled after the second season
aired, even though a third season had been written. So essentially it ends mid-story. But I'd still recommend it.
Added on edit: The original Arthur C. Clarke story "The Sentinal" which is the source for the middle part of 2001, the part actually on the moon, is very, very good. Read it. You won't be disappointed.
hunter
(38,303 posts)Pessimistic time travel stories are lazy.
The later Arrival was an interesting take on time travel, or more accurately, time presence. Time is all about presence. Time is not some defective fourth dimension.
I did a fair amount of time traveling in my youth and broke this world every which way.
World War III is always a hell of a thing.
One of my favorites is when the computer in War Games gave the human race the finger and lets the missiles fly.
This world, the one where you read this, is one where I met my wife and we had children so I don't time travel anymore. I like it here and have been privileged to meet people like Harlan Ellison and Philip K. Dick. (My wife hates Harlan. I once saw him cross the street to avoid her.)
Human exceptionalism is a powerful instinct but nothing we humans do ever has much impact beyond earth.
Our world civilization is a curious layer of trash in our planet's geologic record and a few curiosities thrown into space at negligible velocities.
If we seek some meaning in life we have to make it ourselves.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)Warning! Possible plot spoilers below!
It's actually completely true to its premise of time travel and the plague that kills off almost everyone. However, if you don't see it you won't learn that. I will add that I've seen the original French movie, La Jetée, that it's supposedly based on. Absolutely don't waste any time watching that, as it's confusing and stupid.
Personally, I thought Arrival failed miserably in the two most important plot points: that a linguist could actually decode the alien language in such a short time, and then that language influenced whether or not you could perceive the future. I've read the original short story Story of Your Life by Ted Chiang, and it does work much better as a short story.
A lot of supposedly s-f movies and TV shows are not very good because they're made by people who know how to make TV shows or movies, but have never read a single decent s-f novel. Or short story.
What I like about written science fiction is that it is often a literature of ideas. In recent years I've been attending s-f cons, and gotten to know quite a number of living authors. Never met Ellison, but he was apparently a piece of shit of the highest order. Two particular things he did was one,to grope Connie Willis on stage at an awards event. I think she never forgave him, and when he died and Locus Magazine published its usual tributes to the recently passed author, it was noticeable to me that she didn't contribute anything. Clearly she is of the "If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all" philosophy. The other thing he did which earned him undying emnity from a number of other authors is that he was planning an anthology, the third and last Dangerous Visions which he never published. And refused to release the stories back to the authors so they could sell them elsewhere. Not nice.
And the computer in War Games does not let the missiles fly. It's persuaded not to by playing tic-tac-toe.
I will also add that while I've been reading s-f essentially since I could read, and still read it, my actual range of what I read in the field has become quite narrow. I've never been a fantasy fan, so no Game of Thrones. Sorry, George. No werewolves, zombies, urban fantasy. I like a lot of hard science fiction, and I'm especially fond of time travel and alternate history.
hunter
(38,303 posts)I'm old enough now to know my life does not stretch on forever. I'm not immortal, I have to be selective. Even so, the fields I live in are infinite. My universe will never be small.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)based on my recommendation and still not like it for various reasons.
One of the things I liked about it, aside from it being, as I've said, the most purely science-fictional movie I've ever seen, is that the performances by Bruce Willis and Brad Pitt were both amazing.
In recent years I've gotten much more selective about what I read, even though I'm reading lots more than ever. Life is too short to waste on a book I'm not finding interesting.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)edbermac
(15,933 posts)Even though he did have a pilots license. He made editorial changes to 2001 while crossing the Atlantic in an ocean liner.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)bif
(22,685 posts)I've seen it at least a dozen times. Including seeing it in Cinerama in the theatre!
Ahpook
(2,749 posts)But a bit confusing with the first scenes.
The apes seemed content until a certain point. What happened? I really don't know what the progression or perhaps regression was supposed to be.
And of course the monolith! That was supposed to represent evolution?
Very interesting movie!
edbermac
(15,933 posts)Ahpook
(2,749 posts)Thank you for the link.
I wonder which part or parts he is referring to? Super fun as I love Kubrick movies. I dug anything he directed!
Eyes Wide Shut was not on my calendar because of the actors, but my brother mentioned it and said to definitely check it out. Tom Cruise is hit or miss (Born On the Fourth Of July was outstanding) and Nicole Kidman never really struck me as a great actress.
Kind of a cool Kubrick movie as well as all the others!
edbermac
(15,933 posts)Guy named Rob Ager. He sells dvds of some of his analysis but he has a few free ones here and on youtube.
http://www.collativelearning.com/