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Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:00 PM Nov 2020

Does anyone know if there are a considerable number of serial killers in Britain?

I have been digging deep into the British offerings on cable and streaming channels and realize that they seem to be obsessed with putting out the best cat and mouse detective shows one didn't even realize they wanted to see. And they are pretty graphic about the moral turpitude of the serial killer du jour.

It made me wonder, is this a British appetite because they don't have anything like it on their islands? Or because there is too much of that madness going around?

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Does anyone know if there are a considerable number of serial killers in Britain? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 OP
Check out Scandinavian movies and books if you're looking for serial killers. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #1
Do I dare? Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #2
Lots of creative murdering by these authors: The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #10
Scandinavian literature. zanana1 Nov 2020 #21
I don't know the answer, but Wicked Blue Nov 2020 #3
If you watch the series "Midsommer Murders" you might wonder The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #6
The first few seasons of Midsomer, the murderers were all either gay, Aristus Nov 2020 #9
More recently the murders seem to be related to dysfunctional families The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #12
I love that series! smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #13
"Broadchurch" was excellent. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #15
I'm currently watching, "Luther" and I do see one major flaw. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #16
If they didn't open the door the story would be over. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #20
I love Midsomer Murders Wicked Blue Nov 2020 #14
The are just darn good at mysteries. Mary Mac Nov 2020 #4
The writing definitely raises the game. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #8
Mrs unblock and I have had the same conversation lol unblock Nov 2020 #5
LOL! Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #7
they have plenty. search youtube nt msongs Nov 2020 #11
I love Brit mysteries-- dawg day Nov 2020 #17
Back in the old days, I looked forward to angstlessk Nov 2020 #18
How about audiobooks on You Tube Marthe48 Nov 2020 #19
recently watched "Des" a scottish serial killer (true story) IcyPeas Nov 2020 #22

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
1. Check out Scandinavian movies and books if you're looking for serial killers.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:03 PM
Nov 2020

For countries with low crime rates there sure are a lot of seriously deranged serial killers running around, at least in some imaginations. They're even worse than the British.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
10. Lots of creative murdering by these authors:
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:20 PM
Nov 2020

Arnaldur Indriðason, Jussi Adler-Olsen, Karin Fossum, Jo Nesbø, Mari Jungstedt, Yrsa Sigurðardóttir.

Wicked Blue

(5,821 posts)
3. I don't know the answer, but
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:04 PM
Nov 2020

I love British mysteries. And sometimes I get the impression from reading them that the British adore murders.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
6. If you watch the series "Midsommer Murders" you might wonder
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:12 PM
Nov 2020

how there are can be any people left in that town, since it seems to have a worse murder rate than Fallujah.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
9. The first few seasons of Midsomer, the murderers were all either gay,
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:17 PM
Nov 2020

or had twisted sex lives (mother-son, that kind of thing). I think there was an outcry over it, because they dialed it down later on.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
12. More recently the murders seem to be related to dysfunctional families
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:23 PM
Nov 2020

with lots of money, and some member of the family is bumped off in a strange way, and the person you assume is the heir and the likely suspect, isn't. And there's always some quaint village festival going on.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. I love that series!
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:32 PM
Nov 2020

The characters are all so quirky and interesting. That's half the fun of it. But now that I think about it, there are an inordinately substantial amount of British crime dramas, and I seem to be drawn to them more than I thought I would.

They seem to be very good at it. All the Agatha Christie spin-offs and they just seemed to proliferate from there. Not only are they good stories with intricate plots (well most of them, not all), but the characters are just so eccentric and delightful, even when they are evil and horrible. They are never dull.

I am always up for suggestions. I just finished watching a series called "Broadchurch" w/ Olivia Colman, David Tennant, Charlotte Rampling, et al. It was a little on the dark side, but I couldn't tear myself away. I think I have seen almost all of the Agatha Christie mysteries and versions, and many other detective shows as well, but I'm always looking for something different.

I especially like things that take place in the past, especially the earlier part of the 20th century up to the 50's.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
16. I'm currently watching, "Luther" and I do see one major flaw.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:35 PM
Nov 2020

Does no one ever look through through their peep hole? So many victims are absolutely sure they know who is on the other side, and just let in the people in, who kill them.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
20. If they didn't open the door the story would be over.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:21 AM
Nov 2020

"There's someone at the door."
"I'll see who it is."
"Don't open the door. Look through the peep hole."
"I can see a guy with a ski mask and a chainsaw. What should I do?"
"Don't open the door."
"OK. Can I get you another beer while I'm up?"

- The End -

Wicked Blue

(5,821 posts)
14. I love Midsomer Murders
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:59 PM
Nov 2020

Midsomer is supposed to be a county, I think, so the murders are spread around somewhat.

But remember Murder she Wrote with Angela Lansbury? I used to wonder if there were any residents left in that murderous little fictional Maine town Cabot Cove.

I particularly like the way Midsomer Murders highlights various British traditions, festivals, community events and hobbies. Those little festivals are deadly.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
5. Mrs unblock and I have had the same conversation lol
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:05 PM
Nov 2020

"We should travel more. Shetland looks gorgeous!"

"Are you kidding? 75 people on the whole island and two or three murders a week!"




In all seriousness, no, serial killers are rare outside the u.s.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
17. I love Brit mysteries--
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:36 PM
Nov 2020

partly because they are so FICTIONAL.

I don't feel guilty about enjoying all the murders because there are so few actual murders there.

For example, the Inspector Lewis mysteries are set in Oxford. Every weekly episode featured (usually) three related murders (like the murderer killed one person for personal reasons, then another to cover up the original crime, then a third to get rid of some potential witness).

So three murders a week!

Sounds like my own US city (which as at least 3 actual murders a week).

I looked up the Oxford homicide rate, just to see.... 3-4 murders a YEAR.



Another example: Midsomer Murders has at least one murder a week, and a full homicide department in the small town of Midsomer. The town Midsomer is based on (where it's mostly filmed) is Wallingford, and supposedly far from having a homicide unit, it has a part-time constable who mostly collects parking fines.

As for serial murders, the UK has some, but the fact they're all still obsessed with Jack the Ripper (150 years ago) indicates they don't have a whole lot of legitimate serial killer material.

I'd feel bad about enjoying a murder show set in my town because there actually are that many murders, and even a couple working serial killers (we think), but Brit mysteries? Mostly just invented.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
18. Back in the old days, I looked forward to
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:13 PM
Nov 2020

Masterpiece Mysteries every Friday night. Either with a cup of coffee, a soda or a beer, I watched fervently.

Now I get to stream all my British mysteries. Which is why I have Acorn and Brit Box on my Prime Video file.

Though all of Peroit is not currently available to stream for free..glad I got it when I could.


Marthe48

(16,908 posts)
19. How about audiobooks on You Tube
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:57 AM
Nov 2020

I love Midsomer Murders, and Inspector Morse. And Inspector Lewis.

I recently found Eliot Gould reading Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe stories. He's the only American author I've listened to. Right now, listening to Christopher Lee read Sherlock Holmes.

Other audio books I liked were written by Simon Brett: Charles Paris is an actor who solves mysteries while he acts in different venues, Mrs. Parteger is a sharp widow, whose husband has made sure she has everything she'll need. In the Fethering series, Carol and Jude solve local crime at their own peril. Simon Brett writes well and his characters are very human.

I came across A Touch of Frost (television series), Inspector Allyen, Inspector Wexford, and Inspector Morse, Allyen, Wexford and Morse are either audio books or television. I' ve come across 2 stinkers, and can't rememeber them.

I love the village life described in the mysteries. And I love the older stories. I've been listening to Lord Peter Winmsey and Albert Campion. Really passes the time when I want to sit. Hope you find hours of entertainmnet!



IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
22. recently watched "Des" a scottish serial killer (true story)
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 04:24 PM
Nov 2020

Des is a British three-part television drama miniseries,[2] based on the 1983 arrest of Scottish serial killer Dennis Nilsen,[3] after the discovery of human remains causing the blockage of a drain near his home.[1] The series premiered on 14 September 2020.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Des_(TV_series)

NOTE: IF YOU watch it you may want to turn on subtitles. his scottish accent is very strong.



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