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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:27 AM Dec 2020

Is it just me, or does anyone else kind of feel like they are kind of losing it a little lately?

I'm not really sure what is going on. Maybe it's Trump PTSD. Maybe it's Covid isolation and not seeing friends or family and being alone during the holidays. Maybe it's fear that Covid is going to take someone I love from me. Maybe it's my job and the people I work with who are working my last nerve. Maybe it's the friend from college who took her own life two weeks ago. Maybe it's just a combination of everything.

I don't know, but lately I just kind of feel not quite as stable as usual. I definitely need a vacation, which I will be getting. A full two weeks of doing nothing except what I want to. I so need a break from work. I have spoken w/ a few friends and they are also feeling a bit fragile and scared. I have two more days of work and then I am off for the holidays. I have so much to do, but I don't even feel like I can handle the smallest things. It feels like a mini breakdown in a way.

Just wondering if anyone else is having a hard time these days.

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Is it just me, or does anyone else kind of feel like they are kind of losing it a little lately? (Original Post) smirkymonkey Dec 2020 OP
Yes, yes, and yes, to most of it, and I'm retired. a kennedy Dec 2020 #1
Thank you, a kennedy. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #3
+1 same here.... PTTS... post traumatic tRump syndrome......... nt mitch96 Dec 2020 #54
From curtailed activities to even more curtailment oro Jan 2021 #123
You are not alone jpak Dec 2020 #2
I'm sorry you are not doing well either jpak. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #4
I go through this in waves. Feeling fragile and like I'm holding on by my fingernails. Cousin Dupree Dec 2020 #5
Thank you for your kind words, Cousin Dupree! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #9
Well, the dreary architecture of my soul does cause issues.... ashredux Dec 2020 #36
Sounds like a combination of all of these. Plus... electric_blue68 Dec 2020 #6
Thank you, electric_blue! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #14
And to you & yours as well! (glad I could be of help 🙂 ) electric_blue68 Dec 2020 #17
and if you're anywhere north in the States.... electric_blue68 Dec 2020 #7
Since I retired True Blue American Dec 2020 #13
It's good then that you can hibernate, while... electric_blue68 Dec 2020 #15
I spent many years True Blue American Dec 2020 #24
You are Not Alone dem in texas Dec 2020 #8
I think you are right, dem in texas. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #16
It's all of those things. Aussie105 Dec 2020 #10
Yes! Exactly! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #19
Wow! I wasn't expecting such a wonderful response! Aussie105 Dec 2020 #49
Over there by New Zealand if I recall... flying rabbit Dec 2020 #81
Everyone is in the Same Boat McKim Dec 2020 #11
Thank you, McKim. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #22
Giddy? True Blue American Dec 2020 #12
Yes, you are not alone. mnhtnbb Dec 2020 #18
OMG, mnhtnbb! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #31
It's not just you. The combination of Trump's constant disruption, and Covid, pnwmom Dec 2020 #20
It is feeling like the longest 2 1/2 months ever. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #63
Absolutely. If I allow myself to think about it, I feel that "sense of impending doom." Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #21
Good to see you, Rhiannon! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #64
OMG YES!!! Sometimes I want to cry for no reason while I am WFH Ziggysmom Dec 2020 #23
Cute. murielm99 Dec 2020 #25
Thanks for the link - I subscribed. pazzyanne Dec 2020 #33
I love Bored Panda! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #65
It is hilarious and good therapy-- oro Jan 2021 #124
Welcome to DU, oro! smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #125
It's all weird spinbaby Dec 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Dec 2020 #28
Totally! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #73
It's been 5 years of living in Bizarro World mdbl Dec 2020 #27
Yes, it's been very disorienting. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #70
I am glad you reached out to our community, Smirky! SheltieLover Dec 2020 #29
Thank you, SheltieLover! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #66
You are most welcome, SmirkyMonkey! SheltieLover Dec 2020 #68
I am fortunate that I don't have to live alone. murielm99 Dec 2020 #30
Thanks murielm! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #71
To everyone else, I am falling asleep now, but I will get back to you tomorrow. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #32
You are one of millions. I don't know anyone who isn't thinking the same way. secondwind Dec 2020 #34
Thanks, second wind! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #67
I experience all of the things that you have listed. pazzyanne Dec 2020 #35
I'm sorry to hear that pazzyanne, but I am glad you have your furry little friends smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #69
It's hard to say "hang in there" when there's nothing I can do to suggest how to hang in there DFW Dec 2020 #37
Hey DFW! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #72
Hey smirkymonkey! DFW Dec 2020 #102
Very interesting report, DFW! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #105
Definitely. Uncharacteristic anxiety and just not able to handle things that would previously have Squinch Dec 2020 #38
Thank you for the suggestion, Squinch! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #74
So glad to pass it on and I hope it helps you. I think my local health food store had it in Squinch Dec 2020 #77
Hey! Did this work for you? How are you doing? Squinch Jan 2021 #109
Hi there! smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #114
Happy New Year to you. And yes, his leaving will probably cure Squinch Jan 2021 #121
PTSD Post Trump Stress Disorder TexasProgresive Dec 2020 #39
LOL! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #75
Yes. None of this is easy. ananda Dec 2020 #40
I finally escaped escapism. Then I realized I'd had it made the whole time, so I returned. jaxexpat Dec 2020 #47
Lol. ananda Dec 2020 #56
Yes, but as far as coping methods, it's pretty effective in the short term. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #76
I feel a sense of doom in the air. Illinois and Chicago have no money and congress has cut us off mucifer Dec 2020 #41
Relief is on the way. B-H spells relief. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2020 #44
Depends on Georgia. I think mitch will continue to block relief if he can. Pure evil. mucifer Dec 2020 #45
Hopefully Georgia will come through and Mitch will be neutered. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #78
i have gotten back in to daily meditation jdanield Dec 2020 #42
Thank you, jdanield! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #79
We come this far through the tunnel, not much more till Inauguration & then Vaccination Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2020 #43
Thank you, Bernardo! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #80
Dude/dudette, I have been losing my shit for several months. denbot Dec 2020 #46
I'm sorry to hear that this is tough on you denbot! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #82
Anxiety has been a companion for a good long while now. Lonestarblue Dec 2020 #48
Great post, Lonestarblue! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #83
This is the great thing about this forum! Aussie105 Dec 2020 #50
+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #84
Yes, I too feel like that. FM123 Dec 2020 #51
I so know that feeling, FM123. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #85
Thank you so much for that, really mean it. FM123 Dec 2020 #98
I guess many of us are in the same big ol creaky boat right now. Set sail in 2016. After reading all dameatball Dec 2020 #52
Yes, it's amazing what a great community we have here, isn't it? smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #86
I see that this OP has been a blessing for many. marked50 Dec 2020 #53
Hey, marked50. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #87
Yes. In fact, I'm heading to my GP for some antidepressants next week. I have an iffy Nay Dec 2020 #55
I am sorry to hear about your health issues Nay. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #88
Thank you, SM. I will certainly keep you in mind if I have SSRI questions. I seriously need to Nay Dec 2020 #101
We are living in interesting times Marthe48 Dec 2020 #57
Thank you, Marthe! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #89
I feel a little like an ingrate... zanana1 Dec 2020 #58
That is pretty much how I have been feeling as well, zanana. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #91
Thank you for your kind reply. zanana1 Dec 2020 #104
To answer your question lillypaddle Dec 2020 #59
Take care, lillypaddle! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #92
To break the MONotony, frogmarch Dec 2020 #60
That is brilliant, frogmarch! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #93
Yes I have especially been losing it last marlakay Dec 2020 #61
Take care, marlakay! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #94
Get some sunshine, dear smirkymonkey Wicked Blue Dec 2020 #62
Thank you, Wicked Blue. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #95
Maryland Wicked Blue Dec 2020 #103
PTSD is much more than just war caused shattered nerves. lunatica Dec 2020 #90
You are so right, lunatica. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #96
I am medicated for my PTSD MerryBlooms Dec 2020 #97
I am so sorry, MerryBlooms. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #99
No, everyone needs to vent, we're all having tough times. MerryBlooms Dec 2020 #100
Maybe it's the friend from college who took her own life two weeks ago. AmyStrange Dec 2020 #106
I usually grit through. I had an absolute breakdown yesterday. nolabear Dec 2020 #107
Just the opposite: I feel more hopeful than any time since March. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2020 #108
Yes TuxedoKat Jan 2021 #110
Don't underestimate what tough times we are going through right now and don't be hard on yourself. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #117
Thank you TuxedoKat Jan 2021 #122
All of the above TexasBushwhacker Jan 2021 #111
Hang in there, Bushwhacker! smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #116
Well, I'm feeling a little better after listening to Trump's phone call TexasBushwhacker Jan 2021 #119
Absolutely... LuckyCharms Jan 2021 #112
Thanks, Lucky! smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #115
Yep, going to need my drugs revised again usajumpedtheshark Jan 2021 #113
Even though 2020 is over and Trump lost the election, it's still a tough time for a lot of us. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #118
I miss the gym LeftInTX Jan 2021 #120
This stretch has been the hardest part BlueNProud Jan 2021 #126
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. Thank you, a kennedy.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:45 AM
Dec 2020

I would so love to be retired. I feel so burnt out from work, but yet lucky to still be employed and wfh. I should really be grateful, which is why I am so confused about why I am so unhappy about my work situation. It's so much better than most. I hope you are ok and feel free to send me a PM if you need to talk.

 

oro

(88 posts)
123. From curtailed activities to even more curtailment
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jan 2021

Right--I'm almost totally retired (a long story) and thought my activities had become limited, but the pandemic has cut them down even more. It's hard to deal with. I can't even walk on the campus near me. We all need to hang in for another 8 months. Good luck and good health to all.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. I'm sorry you are not doing well either jpak.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:49 AM
Dec 2020

If you don't feel comfortable letting us know how you are doing, please feel free to PM me. Sometimes it helps to get things off your chest. I was reluctant even to post this, but I was kind of at a breaking point. I would be happy to chat w/ you privately.

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
5. I go through this in waves. Feeling fragile and like I'm holding on by my fingernails.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:52 AM
Dec 2020

Be good to yourself. Do some pampering. Get outside and take a walk, even if it’s a short one. Change your routine in little ways. Try not to put pressure on yourself. And know you aren’t alone.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. Thank you for your kind words, Cousin Dupree!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:03 AM
Dec 2020

I know that those things are exactly what I need! Unfortunately, we are in the middle of a major Nor'easter here, so a walk is probably out of the question for now, but on the other hand it is very pretty outside and kind of comforting in a way. As long as we don't lose power, I don't mind the storm.

I think what you said about not knowing that we aren't alone is the key thing. I think too many of us are isolated and think we are alone in our suffering, whether it is minor or major. Too many people are on social media apps like Facebook where everyone amps up their image and tries to make their life look so beautiful and happy and that is rarely reality. A majority of us are feeling much differently inside.

I guess I thought that is what I hoped to do with this post. To let others know that they are not alone if they are in pain and feeling isolated and that we can still connect through our words. We can still reach out to each other, even if we can't physically interact.

electric_blue68

(26,516 posts)
6. Sounds like a combination of all of these. Plus...
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:55 AM
Dec 2020

Thinking also even though (probably) one has nothing to do with the other having a sudden death like your college friend 😥 like that plus so much death in the news makes a heightened connection that engenders more worry esp around The Holidays.
If we love our family and have good friends that bond is increased around this time so your justified fears around losing someone makes sense while you are even more connected.

I think your vacation will do a world of good! My suggestion would be take the first 1 1/2 to 2 days,
and do "nothing" (unless you're absolutely out of general, and your specific basics). Reread parts of a favorite book, listen to your favorite music, look at favorite TV or movies, talk to the people you love, look at beautiful photography, and art. Order in some favorite meals.

I think some of this will help rebalance you. Then you can try going about the things you need, and want to do.

Good Luck!

(I happen to be very, very late, saw this so I figured I'd try to be of service)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Thank you, electric_blue!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:19 AM
Dec 2020

That is very kind of you and those are wonderful suggestions. And I plan to do all those things and am looking quite forward to it. I think I really just need to restore myself and everything you mentioned is exactly what makes me happy!

I feel better already just from reading your post. I am very much looking forward to my time off and doing exactly what you have suggested! Wishing you and yours a happy and healthy holiday season!

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
13. Since I retired
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:16 AM
Dec 2020

I have kind of hibernated in the winter. Once the Holidays are over settle down with my books, TV and only venture out on good days. Looking forward to Spring when everything blooms and opens up.

But it is worse this year with the pandemic, fear and constant aggravation of waiting until Jan. 20th.

electric_blue68

(26,516 posts)
15. It's good then that you can hibernate, while...
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:23 AM
Dec 2020

... this forced major indoorness for those who believe in science thus mostly staying in for health & safety re: retirement, or being able to work from home it still can get aggravating at times.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
24. I spent many years
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:00 AM
Dec 2020

Fighting the weather, slipping and sliding. Worked past Retirement age so I could retire comfortably. Lucky enough to enjoy. Millions of others did not. I am grateful but worry about those who are not.

But am still used to an active life. This year has cut all that short. I hope I can make it to a vaccine and Spring.

dem in texas

(2,681 posts)
8. You are Not Alone
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:02 AM
Dec 2020

I think that the pandemic has caused everyone to have a fear lurking down in their being of something bad happening, I am not one to let things bother me and usually have an upbeat attitude - But DAMN! 2020 has been rough. We just have to hang in there for a few more months and things will be better.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. I think you are right, dem in texas.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:25 AM
Dec 2020

It has been a very rough year and most of us have been holding our breath and now we finally feel like we can EXHALE. Which I suppose is healthy, but painful at the same time. There is so much we have pent up out of self-preservation and we finally feel like something that looks like salvation is in sight - The Biden Administration, the Covid vaccine, the New Year - there is finally something to look forward to.

Thank you for your response, I appreciate your kind words!

Aussie105

(7,741 posts)
10. It's all of those things.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:06 AM
Dec 2020

Like soldiers returning home from war, the after effects take a while to kick in, and take long to get over.

Soldiers? War?

Yes indeed. It's been a 4 year long war. Never forget that, never forgive Republicans, hate Donald for the rest of your life if you must, but look after yourself.
Be kind, be less demanding of yourself.

If it feels like a mini breakdown, it does because it is. But recognizing that is the first step in self healing.

The next step is to watch the Biden inauguration. Feel free to cheer and jump around the room when it happens. Not too many days off now.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. Yes! Exactly!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:32 AM
Dec 2020

I have never been a soldier, nor through a war, physically. However, I do think in a way we may have experienced something similar, collectively. Which is why I thought maybe I was not the only one who might have felt traumatized in a way.

Thank you for your wise and kind words. They are very reassuring and all of you tonight have helped me greatly. I will be ecstatic upon the Biden inauguration. I am so looking forward to the restoration of sanity and normalcy in this country.

Thanks again, Aussie105! Best to you!

Aussie105

(7,741 posts)
49. Wow! I wasn't expecting such a wonderful response!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 07:38 AM
Dec 2020

Thank you in return!

I was going to add this:
The Biden inauguration represents the official end of the war. I'm expecting jubilation in American streets similar to the announcement of the end of WW2.

The post war restoration can then begin!

And I'm feeling very positive about all that, even though I'm half a world away! (Australia, center lower bit.)

McKim

(2,426 posts)
11. Everyone is in the Same Boat
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:08 AM
Dec 2020

Everyone is in the same boat. A break from work can open other possibilities. One thing that can ground you is communicating with others. Call those friends, send those emails and cards. Clean out a closet, do something around the house you have always wanted to. Make cookies for that lonely old lady down the block. Our salvation is our community. We are more mentally healthy at this house by reaching out to and doing for others. Weirdly we have grown closer to friends by small gestures, Facetime visits, phone calls, making little gifts of food or garden products. You are perhaps afraid of the void of not having work, and burned out. Rest and then DO. Good luck.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. Thank you, McKim.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:42 AM
Dec 2020

You are right. Helping others does a world of good. I do need the break from work to restore myself, but communicating with others is something I cannot neglect during that time.

I have actually done something that I usually don't do which is ordering X-mas cards, however they are delayed because of the storm, but I will get them out even if late. I gave out a few holiday gifts to workers in my building today and they seemed happy to receive them (I still need to give them cash gifts, which I will do when my cards show up), so it made me happy to be able to put a smile on other people's faces. Sometimes, I think that is one of the greatest sources of happiness. To make someone else happy.

Thank you again for your kind and wise words. They are much appreciated. Wishing you a happy and healthy holiday!

mnhtnbb

(33,237 posts)
18. Yes, you are not alone.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:27 AM
Dec 2020

I am lucky to be retired and financially secure. Always been happy to spend time alone, but even given that, I'm tired of the isolation.

I am really feeling the approach to the end of my life. My next birthday I will be 70. By the first week in January I will be moved out of my downtown high rise apartment and into my new house which I decided to buy because I could see a paradigm change in life coming as a result of Covid.

I am so sorry to hear about your college friend. About 10 years ago, a high school friend jumped in front of a train. We were all stunned. She hadn't said anything to anyone and had always been an upbeat person. It's so hard to know sometimes what makes people commit suicide. My husband blew his brains out 2 years ago last Sunday and I do know why he did it, but that doesn't negate the mess that was left because of it.

This response to the coronavirus has been criminally mismanaged and now it is just coming out that it was intentional. Many of us have suspected as much for some time. We are not meant to all live in isolation and without support. It is bound to wear us down and make us feel fragile.

Take care of yourself first during your time off. What's the worst that can happen if you let things go for another couple of days and just renew yourself the best you can given the circumstances? Sleep in. Read a book. Listen to music. Bundle up and go for a walk outside (masked and socially distanced). Watch movies. Call friends.

Hang in there. Come talk to us, too, and confirm for yourself that you are not alone. Message me anytime.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. OMG, mnhtnbb!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:24 AM
Dec 2020

I am so sorry to hear about your husband. How terrible for you! It is always such an awful thing. Death is always tragic, but suicide is an absolute disaster. I can understand it, as I have been there before myself (but have gratefully recovered), but it just messes up those who are left behind like nothing else can.

I so appreciate your suggestions. They sound like exactly what I want to do for my two weeks off. Thank you so much for your kindness!

pnwmom

(110,225 posts)
20. It's not just you. The combination of Trump's constant disruption, and Covid,
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:37 AM
Dec 2020

has us all off-balance and confused -- even if things might be okay at the moment.

And for many, of course, it's not even close to being okay.

Jan. 20 can't come soon enough.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
63. It is feeling like the longest 2 1/2 months ever.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:16 PM
Dec 2020

Having him permanently gone from office will be a huge relief!

Rhiannon12866

(252,684 posts)
21. Absolutely. If I allow myself to think about it, I feel that "sense of impending doom."
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:38 AM
Dec 2020

I feel like I dread everything these days, don't feel up to dealing with much of anything. And I know that it's the primarily result of the hits that we get daily from the news, what's going on now is so horrific that it's unreal. I sometimes have a tough time believing that all this is going on, it often feels surreal, like a nightmare that we can wake up from and get back to "normal."

But the hits keep coming, every day there's a new jaw dropping stomach-wrenching revelation. Our security has been hacked, those responsible for our safety promoted people getting sick, and there are people across the country - even some in our neighborhoods - who believe the pandemic isn't real, are refusing to take precautions, refuse to accept the results of the election, and somehow inexplicably believe that the most unprepared, dishonest, vindictive and lawless POTUS in our history deserves more time to do his worst.

So these are scary times - and the weather doesn't help. It would have been nice to have a summer, time to get out and enjoy ourselves, but many of us rarely left the house. So it's no big surprise that we're unusually anxious. It's been months since we've been able to relax.


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
64. Good to see you, Rhiannon!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:22 PM
Dec 2020

I haven't been in the V&M forum much lately so it's good to hear from you! Everything you said is completely spot on.

Now I am hearing that the federal government is slowing down the distribution of the vaccine to the states, and that is just one more thing to add to the pile. Whether it is due to their extreme incompetence or it's just another Trump/Kushner get-rich-quick scheme, it's going to slow everything down so much more than expected. I just can't WAIT for these grifters to be gone!

Ziggysmom

(4,088 posts)
23. OMG YES!!! Sometimes I want to cry for no reason while I am WFH
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:53 AM
Dec 2020

I’m a computer analyst and am putting in more hours now than before COVID. Sometimes I just gotta take a mental health break during my workday and I look at animal pics or videos. It really helps me.

Bored Panda has some cute pics & posts. This is one of my all time favs of dogs with eyebrows:

https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-dogs-with-eyebrows/?

pazzyanne

(6,753 posts)
33. Thanks for the link - I subscribed.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:36 AM
Dec 2020

I really enjoyed "50 Of The Best Reactions People Had To Trump Losing The Election". It made my early morning today.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
65. I love Bored Panda!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:24 PM
Dec 2020

It's one of my favorite go-to sites! It's definitely mostly uplifting, especially the animal entries!

The humor and photography entries are great as well. Good plug! Everyone should check this site out at some point!

 

oro

(88 posts)
124. It is hilarious and good therapy--
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:28 PM
Jan 2021

thanks for reminding me. I love the Hamster Prison Break.

spinbaby

(15,380 posts)
26. It's all weird
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:13 AM
Dec 2020

I’m lucky in that I’m financially secure and have a nice place to hunker down in with lots of cuddly cats to keep me company. But there’s this kind of free-floating anxiety associated with being cooped up in the winter during a pandemic.

Has anyone else who’s isolated notice that time gets a bit slippery? I kind of vacillate between “What am I going to do with all my empty hours today?” and “How is it Thursday already?”

Response to spinbaby (Reply #26)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
73. Totally!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:03 PM
Dec 2020

Some days I feel like there is not enough time in the day to do everything I need/want to do and other days I am bored out of my mind and nothing seems to appeal to me.

I'm glad you mentioned that, because it's the bored moments that are the most disturbing to me. It's because I think it is more of a state of mind rather than an actual lack of anything to do. Thank you for checking in!

mdbl

(8,354 posts)
27. It's been 5 years of living in Bizarro World
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:16 AM
Dec 2020

It takes a toll. It will take a couple of terms of a normal president to feel a little better. It will also take voting out the really weird repuglicans permeating the stench in our local, state and federal governments.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
70. Yes, it's been very disorienting.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Dec 2020

Like living through an episode of the Twilight Zone or something. I think the relative normalcy we will experience during the Biden administration will snap us out of it and make us wonder how we could have tolerated such a nightmare for so long.

SheltieLover

(78,738 posts)
29. I am glad you reached out to our community, Smirky!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:20 AM
Dec 2020

Given that the circumstances we are living through anything but normal, I think you are not alone in feeling out of sorts.

I agree with what you have said about tRump PTSD. This is a largely unspoken factor in our society & will affect us all for many years, I believe.

Your reaction to covid isolation & all that is going on sounds perfectly normal to me, tbh. And that you reached out to our community is something that I take as a good sign. Humans are herd manmals. We need interaction & validation from one another.

One suggestion beyong engaging in good self-care, including exercise, is to give Yale's free & very popular Science of Well Being a try.

These videos have been quite helpful to many folks. The topics presented are sound and can support a shift in perception that you might find refreshing. Here is a link:

https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being?utm_source=gg&utm_medium=sem&utm_campaign=01-BrandedSearch-US&utm_content=01-BrandedSearch-US&campaignid=380484307&adgroupid=102187343498&device=m&keyword=&matchtype=b&network=g&devicemodel=&adpostion=&creativeid=433079694377&hide_mobile_promo&gclid=CjwKCAiAoOz-BRBdEiwAyuvA603KRGXmjsX3Yk3DMewrHjPxvmAtUV-5gMSuGPwjkG5jBPdZxyrO6RoCQawQAvD_BwE

The first videos are available immediately upon registration. I have never received spam as a result of signing up which, in & of itself, is refreshing. Lol

I am glad you will have vacation time soon & hope that you can refresh and recharge your emotional batteries!

I hope the Yale course is helpful & always feel free to PM if you wish to chat.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
66. Thank you, SheltieLover!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:35 PM
Dec 2020

That will be perfect to do over my vacation which will start at exactly 5pm tomorrow! Great suggestion!

I hope to enter 2021 feeling refreshed and with a hopefully better attittude and this will be perfect!

SheltieLover

(78,738 posts)
68. You are most welcome, SmirkyMonkey!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:40 PM
Dec 2020

Yaaaaay! So glad you are going to do the course to recharge!

murielm99

(32,853 posts)
30. I am fortunate that I don't have to live alone.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:20 AM
Dec 2020

My husband is here, and he is pretty laid-back. And we have a cat, Toby. We both feel as you do, at times.

We decorated for Christmas, although no one else will be here to see it. It is important to do as many normal things as possible.

It helps to try to do something every day, something to keep the house neat and orderly. Clutter makes things worse, at least for me.

It helps to try to have purpose. We are sending postcards to Georgia voters. We stay in touch with our Democratic central committee and with the activist group we are a part of. We have a conference call with them every week.

Even as I type, I know that you and I are feeling the same things, often on a daily basis.

We will get through this!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
71. Thanks murielm!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:46 PM
Dec 2020

You are doing all the right things and I think what you and your husband are doing - sending postcards to Georgia voters, staying in touch w/ your Dem and activist groups is really positive and life affirming!

I am hoping that having a two week break will just give me the time and energy I need to explore things outside of work that make me excited about life again. I think I am just going through some serious burnout.

Thank you for your input!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. To everyone else, I am falling asleep now, but I will get back to you tomorrow.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:25 AM
Dec 2020

Thank you for your kindness in responding.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
34. You are one of millions. I don't know anyone who isn't thinking the same way.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:39 AM
Dec 2020

I feel it, and I’m not even in the U.S. Sometimes we just feel like we’re on overload, with the breaking news 24/7, etc.

Hang in there, January 20 is around the corner!!!
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
67. Thanks, second wind!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:38 PM
Dec 2020

I think that was the whole point of my post. I suspected others might be feeling this way and I thought if we all comissserated, it might help us all feel less isolated and alone and give each other the boost we need to slog through until January 20th.

We'll get there! I have a feeling that Trump is losing power by the day.

pazzyanne

(6,753 posts)
35. I experience all of the things that you have listed.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:47 AM
Dec 2020

During the day, I cycle though a lot of emotions and feel off balance. Calls to friends and relatives and staying on a schedule of doing things have helped me. I have a semi-feral mom cat and her kittens from the past 3 years that l feed and care for that live in my garage. the kittens are 2 1/2 years old (2), 15 months (3), 8 months (4), and 7 weeks (2). They keep me busy and sane, at least I think they do.


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
69. I'm sorry to hear that pazzyanne, but I am glad you have your furry little friends
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:40 PM
Dec 2020

to help you through these times. One of my biggest regrets about missing the holidays w/ my family is not seeing their dogs, who I just love to pieces. Nothing makes me happier than being around them. Animals are our angels here on earth!

DFW

(59,926 posts)
37. It's hard to say "hang in there" when there's nothing I can do to suggest how to hang in there
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:49 AM
Dec 2020

Over here, almost everywhere is on lockdown, and I haven't left the country in about ten days (NEVER happens).

So, we occasionally see our neighbors one by one, my wife drives up to see her mom once or twice a month, and our daughter tries to come up here with her two little ones when she can get away. Our town has the bare essentials open, but that's it. I try to get some stuff done online or on the phone, but most of my work has to be done in person, so it's complicated.

But what the hell, my wife is good company, and I guess the rest will do me good. It's not like we have much of a choice. The three main events I attend this time of year in the USA (SC, FL and NYC) have all been canceled, and with them, my subsequent visits to Dallas and DC. One of my friends has already been sworn in, and there won't be any parties for the other in January anyhow (what a difference from 2013!). So, our next visit to the States probably won't be until April, which takes off some of the year-end pressure here.

ALL of Europe is relieved about Trump's departure, so the mood here is actually somewhat lighter despite the local stress. People hate the lockdown, but they see the numbers and know the stress put on the hospitals here, so they put up with it, for the most part. Almost 1000 dead yesterday in Germany alone, which is like 4000 dead in the States. NOT trivial.

Funnily enough, the whole situation has traumatized some areas of organized crime, as gangs of break-in specialists from Eastern Europe (mostly Romania), aren't finding nearly as many empty homes to rob, or pockets to pick. There are gangs on Romania who actually teach courses on how to slit someone's pockets or backpacks with a razor blade so skillfully, the victim never feels it. Several friends of mine have been victims to this practice.

Even if caught, thieves are not jailed here in Germany. They are sent back on the street the same day with a warning, so it is a paradise here for skillful thieves, especially since it is a crime to defend yourself with violence. But if there is no one on the street to steal from, lax laws don't do you any good.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
72. Hey DFW!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:01 PM
Dec 2020

Good to hear from you! I feel especially bad for you, because I know how much you depend on traveling for your job and how much you and your wife enjoy your trips. I am glad that you are both getting to spend some time with your daughter and granddaughters.

Glad to hear Europe is as relieved as we are about getting rid of Trump, but I don't think we will finally be able to exhale until noon on Jan 20th. It's shocking to hear about Germany's fatality rate from Covid. That is really staggering. However, as you say, knowing that one is doing their part to ease the burden on our already overloaded healthcare workers and people on the front lines helps to give one a feeling that you are making a small sacrifice for a greater good for all of society in the long run, and that is worth something. We will all hopefully make it through this annus horribilis and wake up in 2021 with some renewed hope for the future.

Interesting story about organized crime coming from Eastern Europe. Why is the government there so unwilling to crack down on this type of crime? I have never been a hardcore law and order person, but this seems like something that needs to be nipped in the bud by stiffer penalties or sentences. I am sure Germany like most countries is hurting from the lack of tourist dollars and, if left unchecked, this kind of thing could really keep the economy depressed once the word gets out. Not to mention the fact that German citizens must feel terrorized by these cretins.

Anyway, thanks for your reply and wishing you and your lovely family a happy and healthy holiday season!

DFW

(59,926 posts)
102. Hey smirkymonkey!
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:42 AM
Dec 2020

Much of Western Europe is overrun with bands of thieves from the east due to several reasons. It's not just that theft is basically never prosecuted if committed without a firearm ("tolerance" and leftover stigma from 80 years ago--they cry "Nazi brutality!" the second a German police officer arrests someone from Eastern Europe). The system of justice in Eastern Europe is nowhere as tolerant as it is in the west, and if you are caught slitting someone's pocket in Romania, you might spend a couple of years in a Romanian jail--not a pleasant thing to contemplate, and a LOT less pleasant than getting let out onto the street the same day you are caught. Before she retired as a social worker, my wife sometimes had to discipline immigrants assigned to her for refusing to work, or being involved in petty criminal activity, and accused her of being "anti-foreigner." She told them to cut the crap, because she was married to a non-European foreigner, herself. That often shut them up, though they don't think of Americans as "foreigners," so she usually didn't volunteer where her "foreigner" husband was from.


But the worst consequence of this "tolerant" stance toward organized theft is the fact that it nourishes the far right here. The lack of a will to lock up thieves only gives impetus to nascient far-right parties and neo-Nazi groups of thugs, who are the only ones who are willing to advocate more stringent punishment. They LOVE it that the center and the left are unwilling to enact stricter punishments, because it lets them claim they are the only ones interested in protecting the public. So far, few have let themselves be taken in by this argument, and the far right has a far more sinister agenda than just locking up thieves. They are reluctant to let their full agenda be aired out in the open, but all they have to do is use the very popular anger over organized thieves, plus the (rare but well-publicized) acts of aggression of immigrant Arabs on German girls, and suddenly you have the far right getting not their deserved 2% in elections, but rather, ten times that.

You'll like this story: one time, my wife was trying to place a difficult (lazy, actually) young Russian immigrant man into a job. Her job was dealing with long-term unemployed, trying to place them back into a workforce that was usually prejudiced against them. His German was good, but he used to pretend he didn't understand when appointments were made for him, or instructions given to him, and used his lack of comprehension as an excuse. One Friday, she told him to be in her office first thing the following Monday morning at 8:00 AM. He said sure, sure, and acted as if he hadn't understood. That evening, she called him on the phone from our house, and put me on the phone. I told him, in Russian, that he was to be in her office at 8:00 Monday morning, and if there was any part of that he didn't understand, now would be an excellent time to say why. You could hear the shock in his voice when he said he understood. He knew she was married to a "foreigner." He did NOT know that she was married to a Russian-speaking "foreigner." He was indeed there at 8:00 the next Monday morning, and she eventually did place him in a long-term job. He just needed someone to get into his head that the rules were serious, and actually worked for those who followed them (like keeping appointments, and being at work on time).

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
105. Very interesting report, DFW!
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 12:15 PM
Dec 2020

I am always interested to hear about what is going on in Europe, and your scoops are always filled with engrossing detail!

I especially liked your story at the end!

Squinch

(58,957 posts)
38. Definitely. Uncharacteristic anxiety and just not able to handle things that would previously have
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:53 AM
Dec 2020

been no problem.

I've discovered Ashwaganda. You can get it in a health food store and it doesn't seem to have side effects and it takes the edge off.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
74. Thank you for the suggestion, Squinch!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:09 PM
Dec 2020

I will try that once I get some X-mas cash and gift cards. I think I can order through Whole Foods, so I will try it.

I drink a lot of cold brewed iced tea, thinking the small amount of caffiene will give me energy, but what I really need is something to calm my mind. I also make this Organic India Tulsi (Holy Basil) Sweet Rose Iced Tea, which is herbal and supposed to be very stress relieving, but I mix it w/ a few black tea bags for a more "tea" taste, as it is entirely herbal.

Great suggestion!

Squinch

(58,957 posts)
77. So glad to pass it on and I hope it helps you. I think my local health food store had it in
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:19 PM
Dec 2020

tea form too!

We all need help keeping it together these days.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
114. Hi there!
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:36 AM
Jan 2021

I think it has been helping, I have definitely felt less anxious. However, it also helps that Trump has lost and I have been on vacation for the past two weeks. Although I have been staying up till all hours of the morning and then sleeping until mid afternoon, so my internal clock is definitely off.

And Trump's latest shenanigans are certainly making me a bit nervous, but not nearly as bad as I was before the election. I just can't wait until he is GONE! And hopefully in prison very soon!

Thanks again and Happy New Year!

Squinch

(58,957 posts)
121. Happy New Year to you. And yes, his leaving will probably cure
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 06:53 AM
Jan 2021

both of us of our anxiety!

TexasProgresive

(12,707 posts)
39. PTSD Post Trump Stress Disorder
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:54 AM
Dec 2020

Is he really gone? Will he cause trouble? What's gonna happen? Will Georgia save Biden' presidential aspirations? Oh, my head, what's going to happen? We're all going to die. No we're not. I just don't know what to think. My kids are playing video games when they should be Zooming school. Will it ever be normal again. Oh my aching head, is it the virus. Where's my mask. I'm out of sanitizer. No toilet paper in the stores again.

Does that cover it?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
75. LOL!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:12 PM
Dec 2020

Yep, that's pretty much it, minus the kids!

I worry all the time about shortages, health care professionals and essential workers just up and quitting because they have had enough, just the general breakdown of the social order. I have to just not let myself go to the "What ifs", and take things a day at a time.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
47. I finally escaped escapism. Then I realized I'd had it made the whole time, so I returned.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 07:15 AM
Dec 2020
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
76. Yes, but as far as coping methods, it's pretty effective in the short term.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:14 PM
Dec 2020

I love old or funny movies, watching old (or recent) SNL skits or wasting my time on totally pointless, but entertaining website. Whatever gets us by!

mucifer

(25,613 posts)
41. I feel a sense of doom in the air. Illinois and Chicago have no money and congress has cut us off
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:56 AM
Dec 2020

Just feels like it's all dying here.

I sense there will be a lot more violence when the city and state services are cut.

So much suffering. You can feel it in the air.

It keeps me awake.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
78. Hopefully Georgia will come through and Mitch will be neutered.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:28 PM
Dec 2020

A lot depends on this election. He has been holding democracy hostage for far too long and it's time to end his reign of terror.

jdanield

(16 posts)
42. i have gotten back in to daily meditation
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:58 AM
Dec 2020

here's a "go to" brief meditation that i use often :

&list=PL_L2Qn0Mkx-G4tzyhmTMVc3s4rQadP6f3
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
79. Thank you, jdanield!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:31 PM
Dec 2020

And welcome to DU!

I do listen to different meditation videos at night and they help to calm me down. Thanks again for your suggestion!

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
43. We come this far through the tunnel, not much more till Inauguration & then Vaccination
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 07:05 AM
Dec 2020

(You'll feel better after your break.)

We see the light, but there is still a little bit of tunnel yet to get through.

We'll make it. We made it through four years of tRump madness. We can last another 5 weeks till Inauguration and then a small number of months more (zero to 6 or 7) till Vaccination (varying individually).

Hang in there.

Not much longer.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
80. Thank you, Bernardo!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:34 PM
Dec 2020

You are right, but the time just seems to be going by so slowly, doesn't it? However, I know we will get there and it will be so refreshing to have a nice long holiday break.

I appreciate your input and kindness!

denbot

(9,948 posts)
46. Dude/dudette, I have been losing my shit for several months.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 07:15 AM
Dec 2020

I was already isolated being a long haul trucker. With COVID-19 I can’t even take a break on the road, and socialize at an interesting local.

I only come home ever 2-3 fucking months so I lesson the chances of killing my wife, and can build enough home time to quarantine for 14 days before visiting my 83y.o. father.

In no way was I the peak of mental health before this shit happened, and now between the loneliness missing family and friends back home and dealing with the hateful redneck assholes that populate this industry, I feel like I’m ready to snap.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
82. I'm sorry to hear that this is tough on you denbot!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:45 PM
Dec 2020

The only good thing is that things like this only happen once every hundred years or so, so the chances that we will have to go through this again in our lifetimes is slim to none.

If you read this whole thread, people have offered a lot of great suggestions, and for me, I tend to escape by watching funny movies, old screwball comedies or humerous videos on You Tube. Anything that can make me laugh even for a few minutes can turn my mood around. It also helps to talk to people and just express your frustration, just to know that you are not alone. Just unload, whether it's online or on the phone. There is a saying I heard once, "Pain shared is halved", and I find that it's true.

And this thread has proved me right. Not just because people have so kindly responded to me (and I have found myself smiling through almost all of these messages, barely even aware of it until I realized my cheeks were a little tense) but because I can also offer my experiences and suggestions of help back to others. It can be very transformative. Also, just feeling gratitude to know that someone has taken the time to offer advice or kind words can be very life affirming as well. I must say, it has pretty much snapped me out of my funk to a large extent.

I wish you all the best and I hope your situation improves. Please reach out to the DU community if you need to and are so inclined. These are some of the best people I have ever encountered and I guarantee the risk of opening up will be well worth it.

Lonestarblue

(13,357 posts)
48. Anxiety has been a companion for a good long while now.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 07:29 AM
Dec 2020

Donald Trump has been the most destructive president in my lifetime and perhaps ever. He has inspired millions of our fellow citizens to believe that lies are better than truth, that whites are superior to anyone else, that violence and bullying are acceptable behavior, that deadly pandemics are a political power game. Anyone would feel anxious in DT’s America. Add to that the near-constant isolation since I’m retired, no travel, no meals out, no visits with friends and family.

It’s a wonder we’re not all raving lunatics like the Trump supporters. But we’re not. We’re all intelligent beings who know right from wrong and love from hate. We’ve been fearful of what crazy, destructive things Trump would do for four years. That’s almost over. While his white supremacist supporters might cause some more mayhem before he leaves office, the FBI knows them and is tracking what they’re doing, as they did with the Michigan group.

Once Biden and Harris are sworn in, we will start going back to normal. Once we get vaccinated for the virus (both doses), we can start planning for our new normal, which likely will require wearing masks for awhile and I’m okay with that. We can see a new normal on the horizon, and that gives me both relief and hope.

So, long answer to your question, but yes we’re all feeling a little out of whack these days.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
83. Great post, Lonestarblue!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:05 PM
Dec 2020

And I think you are so right about the end of this long nightmare and the beginning of the Biden/Harris administration and the promise of a vaccine for Covid. 2021 will start with HOPE, and that is more than we have had in a long time.

For so long, it has just seemed like one body blow after another with no end in sight. If I am honest, I would have to say I did not really think we would pull this off. Only because they are such evil, corrupt, ruthless, cheating fascists. However, the majority of the decent people of the US have had their say and we stopped this nightmare in its tracks.

If that doesn't give us something to be hopeful for, I don't know what would. I think this, like most things, will pass. But while we are going through it, I am glad we have each other to go through it together.

Aussie105

(7,741 posts)
50. This is the great thing about this forum!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 07:52 AM
Dec 2020

We can sling off at Trump, Pence, and MacTurtle, rail at the stupidity of a lot of people, but right now, the most important thing is to support each other.

Hugs all round, air hugs, or elbow bumps, whatever you feel comfortable with.

FM123

(10,350 posts)
51. Yes, I too feel like that.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:08 AM
Dec 2020

Perhaps the past four years has done some real damage to my heart and soul and it is all catching up to me now. Some days are better than others, but oh there are times I feel like I am falling in slow motion and am searching for something to hold on to before I hit the ground.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
85. I so know that feeling, FM123.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:12 PM
Dec 2020

Honestly, I do. I think this past four years has done a lot of damage to all of us who are thinking, feeling, compassionate people who care about society and the world at large. A lot of our illusions have been shattered and that has broken us in places that we are still not even aware of yet.

I think it will be a little touch and go for a while, but I do think with the Biden/Harris inauguration and an effective vaccine for this virus, we have a lot to be grateful for and finally, some hope for the foreseable future. Feel free to IM me if you need to talk. I related to your last sentence completely. I wish you a peaceful and relaxing evening.

dameatball

(7,662 posts)
52. I guess many of us are in the same big ol creaky boat right now. Set sail in 2016. After reading all
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:25 AM
Dec 2020

of these responses, I find myself nodding in agreement and recognition with most of them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
86. Yes, it's amazing what a great community we have here, isn't it?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:17 PM
Dec 2020

It makes me realize that none of us can get through tough times on our own, even though I tend to be an extreme introvert and pride myself on my independence.

I think this thread has taught me and shown all of us just how powerful the strength of community can be and how compassion and understanding can turn someone's situation around in a very short time. I would challenge anyone on this board to read through this thread and not admit that we have a truly wonderful, special group of people here.

Best to you, dameatball!

marked50

(1,569 posts)
53. I see that this OP has been a blessing for many.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:41 AM
Dec 2020

It is always good for contact with others on these things when things get rough with our well-being. Thanks for posting Smirkymonkey.

The only thing I can add that I don't already see listed is the effect on depression due the the normal seasonal shift in our exposure to sunlight- called Seasonal Affective Disorder. Basically the lack of serotonin is theorized. If one is afflicted with this in could only compound the craziness that we have been feeling these days. There are solutions to this.

You can get a little more infomation at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_affective_disorder

Best wishes to everyone here.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
87. Hey, marked50.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:35 PM
Dec 2020

You make a good point, and I agree with you. I think the lack of light exposure and decreased activity could definitely have a big effect on our moods.

Other than taking SSRIs or SSNRIs, I think it helps to supplement one's diet w/ vitamin D (low levels due to lack of sunlight exposure) and taking melatonin in the evening to keep circadian rhythms on track. However, it is best to eat a healthy balanced diet and get as much exercise as possible to stay physically and mentally healthy during these dark months. I finally got an exercise bike (which I need to have someone set up for me) so that I can stay active in the winter - and even during hot summer days.

Thank you for your post! This was very helpful and I think a lot of people suffer from this who may not be aware of it.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
55. Yes. In fact, I'm heading to my GP for some antidepressants next week. I have an iffy
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:51 AM
Dec 2020

mammogram and my blood pressure (usually normal) is all over the place. I can't sleep well, I feel off, not stable, exhausted, and I have reached the point where I am not handling anything well. So it's not just you.

I recently went to the dentist and he told me that the dental profession has seen a 300% increase in people cracking or chipping their teeth, just from the stress of living through this year. Folks are so distraught that they are chewing too hard, clenching their jaws, and grinding their teeth.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
88. I am sorry to hear about your health issues Nay.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:45 PM
Dec 2020

I can understand it, I have been through periods before where I have felt like the s**t was hitting the fan all at once, physically - especially at a certain age. It can really mess w/ your head.

I have been taking an SSNRI - Cymbalta - for years and it has been a lifesaver for me. Even though I can get low moods, like recently, it is NOTHING compared to what things used to be like before I was on an antidepressant. I really hope you find something that works for you and I wish you all the best. If the first thing doesn't work, keep trying. It took me a while to get the right combination/formula worked out. Just don't give up and feel free to IM me if you have any questions about my experience w/ medication. I am not a doctor, but I can share with you the benefit of my experience.

Very interesting story about your dentist! I think this is newsworthy and should be talked about more. I constantly notice throughout the day when I am working or even after work when I am reading the news or even DU that my jaw is clenched tightly and my teeth are just jammed together in my mouth. I know that it's stress because it was never a thing before the Trump years.

Take care and I wish you all the best!

Nay

(12,051 posts)
101. Thank you, SM. I will certainly keep you in mind if I have SSRI questions. I seriously need to
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 06:49 AM
Dec 2020

even out all this shit. I just want to feel decent every day, and sleep at night. I can't seem to do that anymore.

Marthe48

(22,901 posts)
57. We are living in interesting times
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:02 AM
Dec 2020

(an old curse)

Hope your vacations is restful and restores your balance

zanana1

(6,469 posts)
58. I feel a little like an ingrate...
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 11:26 AM
Dec 2020

I live alone but I'm in a friendly community. I have food, shelter and a cat. I have jigsaw puzzles and Spotify. I also have Netflix. When supper time comes around, I don't care enough to cook, so I've been eating a lot of peanut butter sandwiches.
However, everything seems like a heavy chore. Cleaning, washing dishes, even showering seem to be things I do grudgingly. My poor cat's litter box is always a mess before I clean it. I play with him more because I feel bad about it.
Trump has been defeated but I don't feel the elation I thought I'd feel. I guess I'm a little depressed.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
91. That is pretty much how I have been feeling as well, zanana.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:57 PM
Dec 2020

I have everything i need, I am still employed. I have a great family and nice friends (whom I haven't seen in ages) and good healthcare.

However, I have been eating cheese and crackers for meals, chores are going by the wayside, and even personal hygiene is an effort to keep up. I manage the bare minimum, but I never go on camera in Zoom meetings because I can't be bothered with dressing up or putting on makeup. I just put my hair up in a tucked ponytail. Occasionally I have to, but I really hate it.

I am going to treat myself to a thorough apartment cleaning for Christmas (I do it about 3 or 4 times a year) since they do a much more thorough job than I do. My diswasher doesn't work (never has) so I "soak" my dishes in the sink for a few days. I just keep running really hot water and put dish soap in them and then do it over again a few times and by the time I get around to washing them, they are almost pretty much clean. Basically, like you, I have no motivation.

I think these are the symptoms of depression. They don't always manifest in the same way in everyone. Are you ok? Do you see a therapist or have you seen a doctor about this? You don't have to answer here. Feel free to IM me if you want. I have mentioned upthread that I see a maintenance therapist and also take antidepressant medication and they both help a lot, but I'm just in a bit of a slump. Still, even my worst days these days are so much better than they were when I was acutely suffering from depression. There was nothing worse than that.

Take care, dear and please let me know how you are doing.

zanana1

(6,469 posts)
104. Thank you for your kind reply.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 11:27 AM
Dec 2020

I do see a therapist and I take an antidepressant that works for me. However, it doesn't seem to be doing its job well lately. I think I feel the way you do. I totally agree that this isn't the nightmare that severe depression is. I know I'll come out the other side. The question is; when?

frogmarch

(12,250 posts)
60. To break the MONotony,
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:34 PM
Dec 2020

I've taKEN to purPOSEly putTING the emPHAsis on the wrong sylLAble when I speak.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
93. That is brilliant, frogmarch!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 11:00 PM
Dec 2020

Honestly. Shaking it up and thinking outside the box is a good way to escape the confines of our limited perspective.

marlakay

(13,131 posts)
61. Yes I have especially been losing it last
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:59 PM
Dec 2020

Few weeks, the walls are closing in, I have days many days where I tell myself to get up do something but I mindlessly watch tv or my ipad.

I am retired which on most days I am grateful for but on some I think at least a job at home would motivate me.

I have given myself a schedule for some chores, I do laundry on Tuesday, could be any day but somehow having a set day helps.

I am signed up for winter Olli classes on zoom that start in Jan. My fall ones ended mid November probably why I am jumping the walls.

If it wasn't for my dog who forces me out for a daily walk I probably wouldn't bother to get dressed.

I was doing extra cooking first 6 months but almost 15lbs later, joining a diet challenge in January on sparkpeople.

My kids do a video call for me and my mom every weekend, it does help to hear about their life because mine is totally boring.

Right now I took out my collection of Harry Potter dvd's and started #1 yesterday. Put me in a better frame of mind. Well moving to my office to watch #2 on computer, changing it up by leaving the living room, lol....🤪🤪🤪🤪

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
94. Take care, marlakay!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 11:27 PM
Dec 2020

I so know the feeling, but I do think things will get better. Just read through this thread and see all the hope and suggestions that the great people here have offered and know that you can reach out to us at anytime, if not publicly then privately.

You are actually quite productive compared to me. I work during the day, but I use that as an excuse to be a total slacker the rest of the time. I would love to have a dog! I am finally living in a building that allows dogs, and if I could wfh forever I would definitely consider it, but I don't have a lot of disposable income for vet care and I would always want to make sure that I could afford a surgery or emergency care if needed. I would take dog parentship very seriously. Having a dog would be my dream.

As far as the food goes, I either don't eat much at all or I am hungry all day. It kind of balances out, although I really don't do much cooking anymore since I get tired of cleaning up. Lots of cheese, crackers and fruit for meals. I keep in touch w/ friends and family by phone and that helps keep me sane. I do miss them, but I am not willing to take the risk to see them in person right now. I just don't trust anyone enough.

You have the right idea with the DVD's. Books and movies are saving me through this. The internet helps too, but sometimes I think it is good to take a break from the screen and turn toward other sources of media. Hang in there! Things will get better soon!

Wicked Blue

(8,748 posts)
62. Get some sunshine, dear smirkymonkey
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
Dec 2020

I find it helps a lot.

Yesterday we got hit by the snowstorm. Today the sun came out and reflected off the snow. I went out to clear off the car, and it was such a mood lifter to be surrounded by such brightness.

I think many of us feel anxious about what might happen between now and Jan. 20.

Here at DU, we're lucky to have one another.



 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
95. Thank you, Wicked Blue.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 11:34 PM
Dec 2020

We also got hit pretty hard here in Boston by the storm, however it is very pretty and Christmassy. Is that a word? Not sure, but anyway, it's very festive.

What part of the country are you from? I am assuming somewhere in the northeast since you got hit with the storm. It is very easy to appreciate the beauty when you don't have to struggle with the miserable morning commute and the wet and slushy slog back home.

Can't wait until Jan 20th, we are all waiting until that day until we can finally exhale, but I think we will make it.

And you are absolutely right about DU! We are all so lucky to have each other!

Wicked Blue

(8,748 posts)
103. Maryland
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:05 AM
Dec 2020

western suburbs of DC. We ended up with about 2 inches because the rain melted a lot of the snow before freezing. Last winter we didn't get any snow. I'm not a snow lover - driving in it terrifies me.

Only 32 days until Trexit!

Here's a countdown page

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?csz=1&iso=20210120T00&msg=Time+left+until+Trump+leaves+office&p0=263














lunatica

(53,410 posts)
90. PTSD is much more than just war caused shattered nerves.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:51 PM
Dec 2020

I had it after my marriage to an abuser. It’s the need to have your senses always on the lookout for something violent or bad to happen. It’s a survival thing. Since you don’t know when it’s coming next then you stay hyper vigilant. Always waiting for the other shoe to drop.

You will feel much better when you’re on vacation if you feel safe during that time.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
96. You are so right, lunatica.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 11:51 PM
Dec 2020

I am so sorry to hear of your terrible marriage. I have not have that exact experience, but I am pretty sure I know what you might have been feeling.

I experienced this as a physically and emotionally abused child, always on the lookout, always afraid. I never knew what would set her off, and it could have been something as simple as the fact that I missed a spot dusting intricate parts of antique furniture. Or in the middle of the night, my sock drawer was a mess and that required a beating as well. There was NOTHING I could do to stop it. She would find something, no matter how hard I tried. And I did try to be as good as possible.

I experienced this after September 11th as a Manhattan resident and employee. Months of feeling like it was going to happen again every day. Terror in the subway when the lights turned off and trains stopped between stations. Constantly jumping at any little noise. Freaking out in a restaurant when there was a "lights off" blacklight birthday celebration. Anything out of the ordinary was cause for panic. It was the constant feeling that you were never safe anywhere you were. There was no place to hide, unless you wanted to lock yourself up in your apartment all day long.

In both cases, I managed to heal from them for the most part, but it never really leaves you. The Trump years have been very triggering for any of us who have put up with abuse or trauma of any kind. I really believe that and I expect there will be articles and even books on this going forward.

Abuse, disrespect, gaslighting, lies, cheating and most of all - getting away with it! That was the sickness of the Trump years, and a lot of us will never forgive him for putting us through it all over again.

MerryBlooms

(12,198 posts)
97. I am medicated for my PTSD
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 11:54 PM
Dec 2020

I take care of my 77 y/o sister full time, two other disable people part time. There are no vacations in my future. There are days when I fall into bed crying because of the stress, because now that it's winter, I don't have my gardening to keep me sane. Most weeks I'm 4 times in pharmacies and grocery stores. My days off aren't days off. If I ever had just One day to myself, that would be a fucking miracle, but that would mean either my sister, or one of my clients was in the hospital, so I never even hope for that. I am happy most days, but winters are hard because I'm not outside in the sunshine.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
99. I am so sorry, MerryBlooms.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 12:19 AM
Dec 2020

You have way too much on your plate and if your sister is 77, I would assume that you are close in age to her. That is just too great a burden for someone of your age - or any age - to assume. Is there any way you could contact a social services organization that could help you?

I do think you need help. Such a responsibility is much too great for one person, especially if that person is a senior citizen. My heart breaks for you. I wish there was something I could do. Would you feel comfortable reaching out to the DU community for suggestions? There are many people here with great ideas and advice and they might come up with things that you hadn't thought of before.

I feel guilty complaining about boredom. I have nothing to complain about. There are people here who are social workers, in government, law, heathcare, etc. who could offer you advice. If you are ok with it, perhaps start a post and ask for advice. People were so kind when i have reached out and I have seen it with others.

I wish you all the best!

MerryBlooms

(12,198 posts)
100. No, everyone needs to vent, we're all having tough times.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 12:29 AM
Dec 2020

I'm 57. I was widowed at 37... Life just didn't turn out like we'd planned. This time of year is hard for a lot of us.

Take care.

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
106. Maybe it's the friend from college who took her own life two weeks ago.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 02:46 PM
Dec 2020

-

That would definitely do me in.

One day at a time, my friend. One freakin', lousy ass day at a time is all you can do really.

You'll get through it, though, and you wanna know why?

Because if you don't, I'm coming over there and slap the shit out of you until that's all you care about. Me slapping you. The rest of the world may suck, but you won't be thinkin' about that.

Or, you can do an anonymous random act of kindness for someone you hate.

That always works for me, especially if I do it right after I slap the shit out of them.
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nolabear

(43,850 posts)
107. I usually grit through. I had an absolute breakdown yesterday.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:51 AM
Dec 2020

It’s the first time since this whole COVID mess began that I couldn’t get it back together. A combination of real issues made a hundred times harder by being afraid of getting sick and the many people I miss.

It’s better today though. It’s far from good but it’s better. Hang in there. We’ll damn well appreciate ordinary disasters when we get to the other side, eh? ❤️

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,640 posts)
108. Just the opposite: I feel more hopeful than any time since March.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 09:25 AM
Dec 2020

Covid vaccine is in the visible future, probably before summer. An actual president is about to assume the office. I'm thinking of making hotel reservations for a July road trip (realizing that I might have to cancel, like I did last summer).

I'm feeling good.

I'm even planning a get-together for Christmas (via Zoom).

TuxedoKat

(3,840 posts)
110. Yes
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jan 2021

Been definitely feeling it the past two weeks. The holidays didn't feel like the holidays this year. Fell off the diet wagon when I was doing really well. I'm thinking just the whole Covid situation has been getting to people. Now, I'm trying to restart and get going. Glad I still have my part-time job.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
117. Don't underestimate what tough times we are going through right now and don't be hard on yourself.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:44 AM
Jan 2021

For some of us, it takes everything we have just to get through the day between Covid, isolation, Trump's madness and the fear of what he might do, and just the unknown and the past four years of trauma.

Go easy on yourself and reach out and talk to people as much as possible. As you can see here, a lot of us feel like we are in the exact same boat. Take care and hopefully 2021 will be a much better year!

TuxedoKat

(3,840 posts)
122. Thank you
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 09:54 AM
Jan 2021

I appreciate the encouragement. Fortunately, I don't live alone. I worry for people who live alone. It must be so much harder for them.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,127 posts)
111. All of the above
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jan 2021

Plus I work for a small accounting firm and we're entering tax season, so that means a heavy workload, overtime and people being snippy. My boss and his wife are evangelical, COVID-19 denying Trumpublicans (still flying their Trump flag) and the wife is especially is very much a my way or the highway person. January 20th can't get here soon enough, but I know it won't be pretty.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
116. Hang in there, Bushwhacker!
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:40 AM
Jan 2021

It's going to seem like an eternity until the 20th, but at least we have each other here at DU! I am not looking forward to going back to work tomorrow after a two week vacation either, because like you, we are going to hit the ground running and it won't let up again until a few weeks in the summer when people go on vacation. I'm just glad we can still WFH.

Take care of yourself and check in to let us know how you are doing!

TexasBushwhacker

(21,127 posts)
119. Well, I'm feeling a little better after listening to Trump's phone call
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 05:00 AM
Jan 2021

I would say it's unbelievable, but it isn't really.

LuckyCharms

(22,267 posts)
112. Absolutely...
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jan 2021


One day at a time, or even one minute at a time. Laugh at whatever you can. Help whomever you can. Grieve as you need to. Cry when you want to. Have faith that things will get better.
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
118. Even though 2020 is over and Trump lost the election, it's still a tough time for a lot of us.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:48 AM
Jan 2021

We aren't quite out of the woods yet. Hopefully once Trump is out of office and both doses of the vaccine have been distributed and recieved, things will start looking up, but it will take a few months.

Until then, I am glad you are under the care of a doctor who is monitoring your medication and that you know when it's time to check in with them. I hope you start feeling better soon!

LeftInTX

(34,031 posts)
120. I miss the gym
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 05:16 AM
Jan 2021

I've got fibromyalgia. I was OK the first few months, but I've gotten out of shape

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