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Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:59 PM

What Would You Swear Upon?

The talk of Harris being sworn into office on Marshall's Bible made me think.

I am not a Christian. I have read the Bible closely and while I do believe there is beauty and inspiration to be found in its pages, I no longer ascribe any sacred significance to it.

If I needed to swear an oath to my country, I would rather place my hand on my grandmother's naturalization certificate. It is the formal acknowledgement of her journey to become an American. Even though it uses the phrase, "in the Year of Our Lord", it also uses the words, " in the [insert number here] Year of Our Independence" and that gives me chills.

Maybe I am thinking about it right now because I have lost a lot of pride in my country under Trump's regime. Wednesday, January 6, 2021 in particular has knocked a lot of the pride and faith right out of me.

Anyway, putting aside my own feelings, if you were to be sworn into office, what object--if any--would you choose to be the visual symbol of your oath?

Oh, by the way, Jefferson's Bible does come to mind. And didn't he also own a Koran that a Muslim congressperson used for his oath?

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Reply What Would You Swear Upon? (Original post)
Collimator Jan 2021 OP
PJMcK Jan 2021 #1
msongs Jan 2021 #2
dem4decades Jan 2021 #3
True Dough Jan 2021 #4
Catcar Jan 2021 #7
50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2021 #9
TreasonousBastard Jan 2021 #5
Catcar Jan 2021 #6
exboyfil Jan 2021 #8
50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2021 #10
Baked Potato Jan 2021 #11
Marie Marie Jan 2021 #12
lastlib Jan 2021 #14
orleans Jan 2021 #13
GoneOffShore Jan 2021 #15
Solly Mack Jan 2021 #16
derby378 Jan 2021 #17
Floyd R. Turbo Jan 2021 #18

Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:02 PM

1. Nothing

If I were elected president, I would raise my right hand and take the oath. A Bible is an irrelevancy since I'm an atheist.

That probably means that I would never have to make that decision!

Well, that and the fact that I'm a life-long pothead!

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:03 PM

2. none and it wouldnt be so help me god either nt

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:03 PM

3. Not religious but I have my father's Bible from WWII, maybe that.

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:07 PM

4. I think I'd go with these




Yeah, my hand would be sticky but I'd devour them afterward!


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Response to True Dough (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:09 PM

7. LOL

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Response to True Dough (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:12 PM

9. ROFL!!!!!

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:08 PM

5. I wouldn't swear at all. Note that all mentions of swearing also say "or affirm". This goes back..

to English law in at least the 1600s when Quakers and others had religious objections to swearing to a deity.

These days it is not as big a deal as back then, but our founders were well aware of the question and included affirmation as an alternative to swearing.

So, as a non-practicing Quaker, and current UU and general non-believer I would (and have) simply said "I affirm".

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:09 PM

6. The Constitution. Or The Old Man and the Sea.

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:11 PM

8. Affirm on a copy of the Constitution

My faith is my own. My allegiance is to my country. I would affirm that allegiance.

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:14 PM

10. One of my parents' wedding photos, since they're the reason I'd be there.

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:09 AM

11. Another for the Constitution.

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Response to Baked Potato (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:23 AM

12. Definitely the Constitution. IMHO, that should have replaced the Bible

for any one taking an oath of office years ago.

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Response to Baked Potato (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:11 AM

14. Constitution and Declaration of Independence.

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:28 AM

13. i'd make a pinky promise



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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sun Jan 17, 2021, 06:47 AM

15. The Constitution. No Bibles, No Korans, No 'holy books'.

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sun Jan 17, 2021, 06:56 AM

16. I'd give my lick and a promise on dark chocolate.

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:53 AM

17. Being a Quaker, I wouldn't. (n/t)

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Response to Collimator (Original post)

Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:45 PM

18. I wouldn't, I know

all the words!

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