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Coventina

(27,120 posts)
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:11 PM Apr 2021

*sigh* A feral cat has had a litter of kittens in my side yard.

They're cute as the dickens, but I don't know what to do.

They are not accessible, at all. The momma had them in my husband's derelict 52 Ford pickup. It is wedged into the side yard between our house and the boundary fence along with two kayaks, a sailboat, and various other detritus. It's a perfect place to hide kittens without big predators coming to get them. That includes humans.

When I was young and not hopelessly arthritic, I probably could get at them, but not as things are now.

I can set cat traps and try to TNR the group.

But the real tragedy is that we have coyotes. Lots and lots of coyotes around here.

If I do nothing, the likelihood is that they will be eaten in a matter of weeks.

Feral cats can be tamed, but it takes time and patience. Time they probably don't have.

We don't have a feral cat problem around here. I'm really stunned that a momma cat was even able to reproduce before becoming coyote chow.

Anybody have any great ideas?

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*sigh* A feral cat has had a litter of kittens in my side yard. (Original Post) Coventina Apr 2021 OP
Trap & take to a rescue? SheltieLover Apr 2021 #1
Not many rescues take ferals. Coventina Apr 2021 #5
Feral cat rescue org? SheltieLover Apr 2021 #8
She's very skittish and skedaddles whenever I try to coax her to me. Coventina Apr 2021 #17
One of my past employers was located next to... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #14
If you can get them by the time they are five to six weeks old, they will tame easily. femmedem Apr 2021 #15
These little ones are at least 8 weeks old, and just as skittish as their mom. Coventina Apr 2021 #16
Oh gosh. Eight weeks, the window for easy taming is barely open. I hope you can get some help soon. femmedem Apr 2021 #18
Sadly, I didn't become aware of them until a few days ago. Coventina Apr 2021 #19
Two of my senior cats started out as ferals, one 10 weeks old when I adopted her, one 18-24 months tblue37 Apr 2021 #27
How wonderful! femmedem Apr 2021 #28
Maybe you could borrow a donkey from someone? Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #2
Excellent idea! SheltieLover Apr 2021 #9
I had no idea! NT Rorey Apr 2021 #10
I have an ancient GSD. He knows they (the cats) are there. Coventina Apr 2021 #11
A relative of ours had a llama that did the same job. Coventina Apr 2021 #20
I didn't know about llamas! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #21
I watch a farm animal sanctuary on youtube Pugee Apr 2021 #25
Call a rescue, they will probably come and get them Bev54 Apr 2021 #3
You say you can't get at them. Can you get some kid to give it a try? n/t brewens Apr 2021 #4
Sell your kayaks and boat. Good way to clear the yard. 58Sunliner Apr 2021 #6
I'd love to, but my husband would disagree. n/t Coventina Apr 2021 #7
Call a pet rescue and tell them the situation. applegrove Apr 2021 #12
I don't have good advice, but I would like to know how you resolve it once you decide. idziak4ever1234 Apr 2021 #13
Maybe you could check out Feral Friends Network ... eppur_se_muova Apr 2021 #22
Call a cat rescue. They will bring cages and trap them and take them away for you. Jacoby365 Apr 2021 #23
Thanks to all of you for your suggestions! Coventina Apr 2021 #24
Any update on your cat family? Fla Dem Apr 2021 #26
So far, no rescues can take them. :-( Coventina Apr 2021 #29

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
5. Not many rescues take ferals.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:21 PM
Apr 2021

The county and our local human society are quite upfront that they are not "adoptable" and immediately euthanize them.

Maybe that's better than being hunted by coyotes?

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
17. She's very skittish and skedaddles whenever I try to coax her to me.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:52 PM
Apr 2021

I am thinking I will leave them food and water, though.

It's starting to get really hot here.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
14. One of my past employers was located next to...
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:39 PM
Apr 2021

... a wildlife preserve, and there were many feral cats and coyotes in the area.

It was a factory with bay doors often left open, since the place mostly operated 24/7 anyway.

Lots of the employees placed cat food bowls and litter boxes near the doors, and we had a few of the feral cats who became less skittish around us. A few were taken home by people there, whereas others basically became "company pets". I should have adopted one of them because I loved it so much, but others would've objected since they liked it too.

Anyway, that cat made the inevitable mistake of wandering outside again. It somehow escaped being eaten, but it died on the factory floor from being badly mangled.

Any of the cats who stuck around that place very long at all were doomed to disappear... after they got curious about exploring the outdoors. All that a coyote needed to do was hide and wait in the thick nearby brush, waiting for any cat to wander outside the building which was wide open and illuminated.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
15. If you can get them by the time they are five to six weeks old, they will tame easily.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:45 PM
Apr 2021

I have a couple of adult cats that climbed out from under my porch as five-week-old kittens a few years ago. I adopted their littermates out, too, and all of them are tame love bugs now.

If you can catch the kittens that young and either foster them or find someone who will, they will be indistinguishable from kittens born in someone's house within a few weeks.

It will be painful for the mom, but then again, it would be painful for her to lose them to coyotes, too.

I was lucky: I was able to trap the mom at the same time I caught the kittens. I kept everyone enclosed in a bathroom until the kittens were eight weeks old. By then the mom trusted me because she saw me treat the kittens well. The mom went back outside after I got her spayed, but one winter day she walked back into my house and she's been inside again for about a year. She's on the bed with me now.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
16. These little ones are at least 8 weeks old, and just as skittish as their mom.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:51 PM
Apr 2021

I love your story.

I have tamed ferals in the past myself. Even adults.

Since I've been in this neighborhood I haven't tried, because they just keep disappearing.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
18. Oh gosh. Eight weeks, the window for easy taming is barely open. I hope you can get some help soon.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:05 PM
Apr 2021

I'd be a wreck, and it sounds like it's as hard on you as it is on me.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
19. Sadly, I didn't become aware of them until a few days ago.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:13 PM
Apr 2021

I happened to see the mother, and was trying to coax her to me, when all of a sudden I saw the littles scurrying away.
(They were venturing into our front yard, and all ran under our side fence where the truck, etc. is).

A few days of stalking the yard yielded the intelligence that the truck was their home base.

I gotta hand it to the mom, it is a genius location. She managed to hide them for what seems about two months!

Now I know why my dog has been so interested in that side yard lately!

Thanks for the hugs. I love all animals, and I hate to see any of them in bad situations.


tblue37

(65,357 posts)
27. Two of my senior cats started out as ferals, one 10 weeks old when I adopted her, one 18-24 months
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:00 PM
Apr 2021

old. Both very affectionate & cuddly.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
28. How wonderful!
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:31 PM
Apr 2021

I have one who was an adult when I tamed her, but I had been building up trust by feeding her for months before I brought her inside.
She still never purrs, but she curls up next to Mr. Femmedem with her head in the palm of his hand every evening.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
2. Maybe you could borrow a donkey from someone?
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:17 PM
Apr 2021

If you don't have any pet canines, that is.

Donkeys Kicking Coyotes Out of Pastures
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-12-03-mn-307-story.html
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The “deliberate” disposition of the donkey and the animal’s innate dislike of canines make it useful for guarding goats and sheep against coyotes and other predators, rancher Nanci Falley said.

State officials say the donkey guard, an old-time form of protection, is enjoying a resurgence on ranches around the country.

“It’s such a natural thing for a donkey,” said Falley, who also sells the guard animals. “It’s not something that requires training. They have a natural instinct to run dogs and coyotes out of their territory.”
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Coventina

(27,120 posts)
11. I have an ancient GSD. He knows they (the cats) are there.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:25 PM
Apr 2021

He'd probably kill them if he weren't so old (he's always had a high prey drive).

He keeps the coyotes out of the back and side yards when he's outside. The cats are safe as long as they stay on our property.
But, as they get older they will wander.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
20. A relative of ours had a llama that did the same job.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:15 PM
Apr 2021

They had the llama, a few sheep, a goat, and lots of chickens.

After the llama died of old age, the coyotes came and took all the chickens and killed one of the sheep.

So, they bought a new llama and it seems to have fixed things.

Pugee

(346 posts)
25. I watch a farm animal sanctuary on youtube
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:17 AM
Apr 2021

I learned that lots of farmers keep a llama or two in their fields with any type of wildlife (from sheep/cows/horses to ducks and geese) as they consider the area theirs and the animals their responsibility. They are very territorial and protective of "their" animals.

eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts)
22. Maybe you could check out Feral Friends Network ...
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:30 PM
Apr 2021
https://www.alleycat.org/our-work/feral-friends-network/

I haven't used them myself, but there are people out there who help take ferals in.

When I lived in west TN, there was an organization called Barn Cat Rescue which helped trap and neuter ferals, then adopt them out as barn cats, which are a bit wilder than household pets.

OTOH, they neutered two 6 mo feral kittens which I have converted to indoor cats with no real problems after the first week or two.

Jacoby365

(451 posts)
23. Call a cat rescue. They will bring cages and trap them and take them away for you.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:32 PM
Apr 2021

You should be able to find one in your area.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
29. So far, no rescues can take them. :-(
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:54 PM
Apr 2021

I went and bought a bag of kitten chow, and leaving it in the bed of the pickup truck.
They seem to like that!

The bowl gets emptied pretty quickly.

They are still very skittish, but I'm hoping that I can win them over by feeding them....

If they don't disappear, I'll TNR them.

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