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UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 11:08 AM Jun 2021

First cicadas, now "tarantula hawk" wasps! Good news not aggressive; bad, there are *tarantulas*!1

And yea, before I get told that tarantulas ain't that bad, am cognizant, have seen people treat them as pets, letting them stroll on their arms.



First heard of these wasps as a kid on a Disney nature segment, sounded scarifying, must have missed the info below that they're not aggressive. Might have seen one back then, but never again in my lifetime until the past couple of weeks when there have been a half dozen separate ones.

So interesting tidbits: The tarantula is eaten ALIVE; the wasps get drunk on fermented nectar to the point of impaired flying; the sting pain is zowie!1

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantula_hawk

tarantula hawk

is a spider wasp (Pompilidae) that preys on tarantulas. Tarantula hawks belong to any of the many species in the genera Pepsis and Hemipepsis. They are one of the largest parasitoid wasps, using their sting to paralyze their prey before dragging it to a brood nest as living food; a single egg is laid on the prey, hatching to a larva which eats the still-living prey. ....

The female tarantula hawk wasp stings a tarantula between the legs, paralyzes it, then drags the prey to a specially prepared burrow, where a single egg is laid on the spider's abdomen, and the burrow entrance is covered.[3] Sex of the larvae is determined by fertilization; fertilized eggs produce females, while unfertilized eggs produce males.[3] When the wasp larva hatches, it creates a small hole in the spider's abdomen, then enters and feeds voraciously, avoiding vital organs for as long as possible to keep the spider alive.[3] After several weeks, the larva pupates. Finally, the wasp becomes an adult and emerges from the spider's abdomen to continue the life cycle. ....

Tarantula hawk wasps are relatively docile and rarely sting without provocation. However, the sting—particularly that of P. grossa—is among the most painful of all insects, though the intense pain only lasts about five minutes.[9] One researcher described the pain as "...immediate, excruciating, unrelenting pain that simply shuts down one's ability to do anything, except scream. Mental discipline simply does not work in these situations."[6] In terms of scale, the wasp's sting is rated near the top of the Schmidt sting pain index, second only to that of the bullet ant, and is described by Schmidt as "blinding, fierce[, and] shockingly electric".[2] Because of their extremely large stingers, very few animals are able to eat them; one of the few that can is the roadrunner. Many predatory animals avoid these wasps, and many different insects mimic them, including various other wasps and bees (Müllerian mimics), as well as moths, flies (e.g., mydas flies), and beetles (e.g., Tragidion) (Batesian mimics).

Aside from the possibility of triggering an allergic reaction, the sting is not dangerous and does not require medical attention. Local redness appears in most cases after the pain, and lasts for up to a week. ....

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Wingus Dingus

(8,059 posts)
1. I have these in my yard every summer--my fault for having a garden full of flowers.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 11:25 AM
Jun 2021

I basically stop doing any kind of yard work from July until September because of them--yeah, my yard becomes a weedy drought-stricken mess every summer. They are terrifying. They have zero predators. The birds totally avoid them. One got into my garage once, I went out there to put a can into the recycling bin and heard that menacing deep buzz and about lost my mind. I like my actual tarantulas, though, they come out every Aug/Sept to look for lady friends.

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
2. You sound like me on several points: Terrifying, avoid them, "lost my mind"!1 --hah, that's me!
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jun 2021

Even now finding out they're fairly docile, am still going to be trepidacious about them, will still do the yardwork, what's my alternative?!1

As for tarantulas, they still give me the creeps. The dudes march in whole armies in their prowling season, in some places like a STREAM across highways!1 Besides, one close encounter was enough for me: Trousers hanging on a chair; slipped them on and felt some clump down one leg; SCRAMMED my legs *out* of them, and it. was. TARANTULA!

The main flowering things I had got wiped out in the winter, am down to perimeter bushes. I invited my neighbor to a flea market for replacement plants and he said he's had it with the losses and cleanups and is totally abandoning the gardening thing. I haven't gotten that far, but am currently getting fed up with mowing after recurrent raining.






Wingus Dingus

(8,059 posts)
6. The tarantulas near me always seem afraid of us and avoid us--to me they
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jun 2021

almost seem more like skittish small animals rather than insects or spiders (most of which give me the creeps), plus I feel bad for them (because of aforementioned tarantula hawk wasps as well as cars running them over on our roads). I was about to cut way back on gardening this year as well because of several years of drought--with the attitude of "it either survives on its own or it dies, I don't care anymore"... but now we've had tons more rain this spring than normal and everything's growing like crazy, so I don't have to do much right now except lots of weeding.

MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
11. Upper Midwest
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 07:47 PM
Jun 2021

October early morning dog walk. Wearing two layers (base and outer). Dog scares up a mouse in the leaf litter - distract the dog so the mouse escapes.

1 1/2 miles later; arrive home.

Begin stripping layers and discover a "lump" between base and outer pant layers.

It was the mouse.

Figured it was more afraid than I was (farm girl here - NOT scared of any critters) and gently extracted it from my pants to the outdoors. Am sure it found its way into my house; only to be captured by one of our four cats.

At least it had a chance.

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
12. U "NOT scared of critters" - I'm a wuss. Always wear my ship ball cap & dog tag but
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 08:20 PM
Jun 2021

go through "meditation" while having blood drawn for routine lab - & a nurse said, "Are you sure you were in Vietnam?"






UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
3. Another critter sharing my surrounds, "burner" caterpillar ("wooly bear"?) - turn into *moths*
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jun 2021

Supposedly the burning is "just" skin irritation, not threatening.












Kali

(55,019 posts)
4. very beautiful wasp
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jun 2021

metalic blue. both tarantulas and wasps are ok with me. you can keep caterpillars, though. (fortunately there are wasps that take care of some of those, too )

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
5. "keep caterpillars" ALL for me, oh joy oh JOY!1 - Not since I was regaled with pics
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:53 PM
Jun 2021

of garden snails porn have I been so overwhelmed!1

Speaking of which, my futile War on Snails (like the political "war on drugs" and such) has been futile, but the snail-icide had reduced the numbers a bit, but this year there appears to be a variant surge going on and my will to continue the fight has waned. They can be found on the most unexpected places - besides walls of wood or brick, plastic, or plants, animate or inanimate - but even under boards or bricks.

Since I "can keep" caterpillars, reciprocity is for you to keep the snails!1






Kali

(55,019 posts)
7. we spent a couple of random years in California when I was a kid
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 04:48 PM
Jun 2021

snails were bad, but slugs were the absolute worst.

it takes really wet years and imported plants for me to see snails anymore. still, they are supposed to be good in garlic butter (what isn't?!!), so maybe if you start consuming them and find them delicious they will just disappear. isn't that the way things go?

oh yeah, we have a really toxic caterpillar out here https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2018/01/21/dont-touch-buckmoth-caterpillars/

there are a few other stinging ones, but that one is the worst.

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
10. Oh. Holy. ZEUS! -- What have I done to deserve the grossness, first snail porn now this!1
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 06:26 PM
Jun 2021

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ShazzieB

(16,475 posts)
15. That thing is horrifying.
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 03:14 AM
Jun 2021

But interesting. Looking at it, I am both grossed out and sort of fascinated at the same time.

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