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Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:33 AM

Any other Patty Melt fans here? I actually got a great one today from a fast food joint

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Yeah, I know, beef is evil. I try not to eat too much, but sometimes, I just need me a burger. And sometimes, I just have to have it in Patty Melt format.

Unfortunately, the fast food and chain restaurant world is rife with Patty Melt's that fail, often spectacularly, at properly creating what really should be a simple treat.

A proper Patty Melt is like this:

1) One fairly thick, or two thinner, beef patties. 1/3-1/2 lb max total.
2) Two slices of cheese ... Swiss-flavored processed cheese is my favorite, but American is passable, as are real swiss cheese slices, but in that case just one is enough. For some reason, I like the processed stuff better in this concoction. Real swiss is a little strong-tasting.
3) Grilled onion 'rings', not any diced nonsense. They should taste like they're cooked on a grill that beef has been cooked on, like they have a beef grease contingent to them. I don't mean breaded onion rings, just slices.
4) Serious RYE bread, in a CIRCULAR shape. Marbled is great, but the most important part is it should have a STRONG rye flavor. I want it to be crunchy with around 10 caraway seeds in each slice. These must also be GRILLED on a grill you've been cooking beef on, with butter or something that tastes much like it, like a buttery flavored oil.

That's it. Bun, Grilled Onions, Cheese, Patty(s), Cheese, Bun.

1000 Island (or Russian Dressing) is the only acceptable condiment, but with a good Patty Melt, there's not really a need for extra stuff.

So after trying so many of these at 'chain' types of places (Culver's has a particular insipid 'version'), I finally got one today that was MONEY.

Place: Freddy's Steakburgers, which is basically a fast-food joint.

And it was freaking damn near perfect.

Like the kind you'd get at a diner in the 1970's, made by Mel from the show "Alice". I was frankly pretty blown away.

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Reply Any other Patty Melt fans here? I actually got a great one today from a fast food joint (Original post)
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 OP
msongs Jul 2021 #1
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #3
vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #2
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #4
vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #5
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #6
vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #8
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #33
vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #36
CentralMass Jul 2021 #7
multigraincracker Jul 2021 #9
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #10
multigraincracker Jul 2021 #11
KS Toronado Jul 2021 #18
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #34
nuxvomica Jul 2021 #12
babylonsister Jul 2021 #13
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #26
babylonsister Jul 2021 #32
hlthe2b Jul 2021 #14
DemUnleashed Jul 2021 #15
Ligyron Jul 2021 #16
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #27
Ligyron Jul 2021 #30
KS Toronado Jul 2021 #17
OxQQme Jul 2021 #19
Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #20
East-A-Squared Jul 2021 #21
Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2021 #22
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #29
Ocelot II Jul 2021 #23
Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #24
Fla Dem Jul 2021 #25
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #28
tblue37 Jul 2021 #31
Kali Jul 2021 #35
Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #38
Kali Jul 2021 #41
smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #37
FSogol Jul 2021 #39
TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 #40

Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:37 AM

1. best I ever had was at the french quarter on santa monica blvd in west holyywood. awesome nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:41 AM

3. Yeah, it's not TOO hard to find good ones if you go to 'real' restaurants

There's a chain out West here called Black Bear Diner that makes a VERY solid one. But it's HUGE and costs like $10 ... finding a really good one for like $6.50 at a fast-food drive-thru was definitely a treat

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:38 AM

2. No candle to Whataburger

Best freaking patty melts in the world

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:42 AM

4. Yeah? I think there's one not too far away ... I shall definitely try one next time!

So are you also a fan of this concoction, I take it?

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:45 AM

5. I absolutely love patty melts

I had one last Saturday for lunch at a local restaurant called Golden Light. I enjoyed it, but I still think Whataburger is the best patty melt. I usually go there twice a month to get just their meal. Fries aren't bad neither. Like it's pricey for sure. A large meal runs about ten dollars and change. Tax included though. But holy moly it's worth it

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:51 AM

6. On your sage advice, I'll make a pilgrimage to Whataburger ... which is like 6 miles away

And handily, right across from an EPIC International Supermarket in Mesa.

Perhaps in a couple weeks when the hankering for a burger kicks back in

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 05:02 AM

8. Technically a patty melt isn't a burger

It's it's own thing. It's magical and will bless your soul. Also try their Dr. Pepper milkshakes! OMG DELICIOUS!

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:20 PM

33. Okay!

At its core, a good one is constructed exactly like a good Reuben Sandwich, only instead of corned beef and sauerkraut, you use a ground beef patty and grilled onions.

I think burger and sandwich are both acceptable nomenclatures

And they are magical when done correctly

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 07:10 PM

36. Never had a Reuben

Are they good?

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:51 AM

7. That sounds fantastic.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 05:15 AM

9. The Best burger I've ever had, and now copy,

was a lamb slider I had at a New Zealand restaurant in San Diego. Stuffed with goat cheese on a dark bun.

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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 05:19 AM

10. A Lamb & Goat Cheese BURGER?!?

How dare you blaspheme like this in my Patty Melt thread?!?

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 05:26 AM

11. Out of respect, I'm not going to mention my

Bumper Bambi Road Kill Burger.

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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 07:37 AM

18. I like those also, but you need to keep an eye open for chrome plating.

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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:27 PM

34. Your deference is appreciated despite its coy nature ;)

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 05:35 AM

12. Swiss and rye are a great combo

It's my preferred grilled cheese. I never knew what a patty melt was till now.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 05:39 AM

13. I thought patty melts were usually on bread,

and for me specifically, rye. Yes, I like me a good patty melt!

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 01:49 PM

26. That's what I said ... Rye bread :) nt

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 04:06 PM

32. How did I miss that? All I saw was bun.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 06:01 AM

14. Freddy's Steakburgers--hmm. There is one near the Costco I frequent and I've never even thought to

go in (frankly, I've not eaten fast food or really any take-out in a long time). Since I've never eaten there and not really familiar with the chain, I'll take your recommendation. This is a newer fast food restaurant to me--but apparently, its headquarters is in Wichita, Kansas. For your trivia stack this morning...

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 06:32 AM

15. Thanks

Thanks for the tip...I too LOVE me a good patty melt!! 😋

Will now have to try eating them at Freddy's Steakburgers and at Whataburger!

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 07:04 AM

16. Russian dressing.

Not the beet one Ö the one like in New York deliís that you put on Corned beef or pastrami.

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Response to Ligyron (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 01:50 PM

27. Fair Enough, Russian and 1000 Island are real similar, either is good on a PM :)

A good Patty Melt is made pretty much exactly like a good Reuben, but with Beef and Onion instead of Corned Beef and Sauerkraut.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #27)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 02:50 PM

30. That's true, good comparison.

Russian is just an improved version of thousand Island, IMHO. Itís a bit richer with the egg yolk added and maybe a higher ratio of mayonnaise too.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 07:31 AM

17. Freddy's Steakburgers makes a great Patty Melt

In fact none of their burgers will disappoint.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 08:57 AM

19. Well that brings back 70 year memories

Dad used to make them, when I was just a pup, just like your description only he used SPAM.
"Spamelts" we called them.
Marbled rye from the local bakery, onions from a farm close by.
I liked a slice of tomato inside.
Cheese from a local dairy delivered into our icebox fridge by the milkman.
Dad didn't always use spam, but with a touch of mustard spamelts were my fave.
Another variation was roast beef melts.

Hugh, you've made my mouth all watery..

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 09:00 AM

20. Simple, quick, tasty. The way it should be...

I can take a bit of mustard on a good patty melt, but other than that I agree, no condiments is fine, and the grilled onions are necessary.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 09:15 AM

21. Eliason Bros. Big Boy in Michigan had a great one.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 09:29 AM

22. Best ever!



Beef burger with grilled onions, Swiss cheese, Russian dressing, on grilled sour dough rye bread. 😋

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 01:57 PM

29. Sourdough Rye ... hellz yeah!

I like 'em how they did it at old school diners I had as a kid. We have a Copper Skillet in the East Bay, not sure if same company. They make a good one for sure.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:28 AM

23. They have onions, which is a non-starter for me.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:51 AM

24. Steak-n-Shake has good patty melts.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:54 AM

25. No! They were served in my high school cafeteria and tasted awful.

Since then I have no desire for them. Also not a fan of swiss cheese as a result.

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 01:52 PM

28. They can be made really poorly, as I mentioned

Done right, they're delicious if you like the basic flavors of onion, beef, rye and cheese at least

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 03:08 PM

31. Haven't had one in decades, but I do love them.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 05:09 PM

35. we are in agreement

except I prefer real cheese.

a local restaurant has a good cheeseburger they call a patty melt but it is not. no rye bread. sourdough. like I said, good cheeseburger but not a patty melt.

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Response to Kali (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 2, 2021, 10:54 PM

38. I'm flexible on the cheese, it just has to be really MELTED and I've had some attempts

with real swiss where it just wasn't all the way gooey, and that's a critical part of the experience for me

That's why I kinda like the processed cheese cause that's easy for the cook to get melty.

Aside from the cheese being in a near-liquid state also key is the grilled bread with a strong rye flavor & caraway seed crunch, and the way the onions are cut, and how they're cooked.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #38)

Sat Jul 3, 2021, 12:22 AM

41. yeah real swiss can take too long to melt

what is with flavorless ryebread? tons of caraway!

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Fri Jul 2, 2021, 10:46 PM

37. I LOVE Patty Melts!

 

I also rarely ever eat beef or anything from a skillet, but I do love them and I don't think I have had one in about 10 years. Too long.

It's hard to find authentic ones in these parts (Boston). I was able to find them in NYC and San Francisco. The few times I have seen them on the menu here, they aren't the real thing.

I suppose I could just make them myself, but I love getting them at a real diner like they had in NY/NJ. They were so good!

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Fri Jul 2, 2021, 11:07 PM

39. There's a Freddys near me, I grab work lunch there occasionally. Their burgers are good*.

I usually don't order patty melts in restaurants since they come out either greasy or soggy. I make them at home a lot.

* Not as good as Five Guys, imo.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #39)

Fri Jul 2, 2021, 11:37 PM

40. Freddy's patties are very thin, with crispy edges

Most adults get a double patty, and that's their regular offering. They also have hot dogs and frozen custard.

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