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Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:43 PM

Too many attractive white Americans get by with their attractiveness.

5 years ago I gifted my friend who was a school psychologist money so she could check out a job in Hawaii. She eventually moved to Hawaii and somehow she got fired. This is kind of a rant about her.

She bought a very cool Obama doll for me and we eventually both left that small conservative town in New Mexico. She's now batsh--t crazy and only trusts alternative news. I'm sure she's lost her mind. WE campaigned for Obama in that town. Now she thinks Jill Biden was Joe's babysitter and all that crap. I just started corresponding to her but and could point out web sites like FactCheck.org or AP fact check to get the right answers. according to some of the exit polls 55% of white women voted for Trump in the last election. I have no one to date because I'm afraid I'll run into another B--t shit crazy women who is attractive on the outside but uninformed and ignorant on the inside. When I'm gone people will wonder why he didn't marry. It's probably because all the attractive women that I think would be compatible tend to be stupid and clueless.... But they think they are OK.


I'm white but I can honestly say fuck white privledge.

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Reply Too many attractive white Americans get by with their attractiveness. (Original post)
Flash953 Aug 6 OP
Flash953 Aug 6 #1
Enter stage left Aug 6 #2
yonder Aug 6 #6
Enter stage left Aug 6 #8
yonder Aug 6 #11
Enter stage left Aug 7 #12
brewens Aug 6 #3
AgentStepford Aug 6 #4
Enter stage left Aug 6 #9
whathehell Aug 6 #10
leftieNanner Aug 7 #13
whathehell Aug 7 #18
Marcuse Aug 7 #19
brush Aug 7 #20
mitch96 Aug 7 #32
whathehell Aug 7 #34
DFW Aug 8 #44
whathehell Aug 9 #46
DFW Aug 9 #47
whathehell Aug 9 #48
padfun Aug 6 #5
viva la Aug 7 #29
whathehell Aug 6 #7
Midnight Writer Aug 7 #14
whathehell Aug 7 #16
Deuxcents Aug 7 #15
whathehell Aug 7 #17
brush Aug 7 #21
whathehell Aug 7 #23
brush Aug 7 #26
elias7 Aug 7 #27
brush Aug 7 #28
viva la Aug 7 #30
brush Aug 7 #37
viva la Aug 7 #39
DFW Aug 8 #45
whathehell Aug 7 #35
brush Aug 7 #38
whathehell Aug 7 #41
mopinko Aug 8 #43
Wolf Frankula Aug 7 #22
whathehell Aug 7 #24
Wolf Frankula Aug 7 #25
viva la Aug 7 #31
Random Boomer Aug 7 #40
cinematicdiversions Aug 7 #33
quaint Aug 7 #36
miyazaki Aug 7 #42

Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:46 PM

1. dropping a Penny in the Big DU fountain

Hoping I find someone who likes me and my values.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:48 PM

2. Look for logic, intelligence & a good sense of humor...

remember, beauty is only skin deep!

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Response to Enter stage left (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

6. And short-lived at that.

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Response to yonder (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:46 PM

8. Well, 53 years later, she may not be as attractive physically...

but I'll fight too the death to keep her.

PS... I'm not quite as attractive either.

But we slept in a Motel 6 last night, and we both have a great sense of humor.

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Response to Enter stage left (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:55 PM

11. Sounds like we're both onto the "formula"

In 3 weeks, it'll be 37 years for us

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Response to yonder (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:08 AM

12. Congratulations.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:15 PM

3. I have a prospect that I'm just about to ask out. She's super sweet and attractive,

but I have no idea what her politics if any are. I sure hope she's not a FG follower. That's a deal breaker.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:20 PM

4. I have a half of an idea....

Women can skate by if they are attractive. Lollygag, babble, what have you. Guys will indulge the bad case of Prettitus. But the problem may be more than skin deep, perhaps, if she was spoiled in that way from childhood.

Perhaps while courting/schmoozing her, ask if she has always been a looker. Maybe a bad habit is a new one, one she can move past.

Is that terrible?

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Response to AgentStepford (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:48 PM

9. Key word...LOGIC!

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Response to AgentStepford (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:50 PM

10. Please..Handsome men & cute boys are ALSO treated better in life.

Studies confirm it, and contrary to the OP's "fears", attractiveness does not correlate to character or intelligence in either gender.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:27 AM

13. Exhibit A

Kevin McCarthy.

Dumb as a rock and way less useful. But he's a tall, handsome country boy and his California valley district continues to elect him.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:24 AM

18. Exhibit A +

Barack Obama..

Tall and handsome with a first class mind and a kind and caring character.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:24 AM

19. McCarthy? Attractive? Compared to what?

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:40 AM

20. It's the hair. One rarely sees bald pols. It's superficial as hell...

Last edited Sat Aug 7, 2021, 02:37 AM - Edit history (1)

but it's a factor in getting elected. Attractiveness in women pols also helps.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:25 AM

32. My friend's ex is a "macho pretty boy"... Very attractive man and knows it..

He is in his '60s now and always has women falling all over him.. till they get to know him. Super jock, outspoken and condescending to most women.. accept mom.. Can't keep a relationship together. It's like a high performance euro sports car.. Looks good but does not last😉 ymmv
m

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #32)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 10:04 AM

34. It happens that way sometimes..

That said, I've known average and even homely men who were big jerks too.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:03 AM

44. Hell, I can confirm that! No need for studies.

Through high school(s) and college, the “pretty” girls avoided nerds like me as if we were both radioactive and known spreaders of the bubonic plague.

I figured it was my lifelong fate to admire them from afar, but I found there were other cultures out there where if you were an interesting nerd with a sense of humor, it didn’t matter that I wasn’t rich, a male model, or the varsity football star (Was ist ein Varsity?). So, in a dark, smoky cabaret in Berlin in July, 1974, I met a 22 year old woman—I was also 22—from the flat farmland of northwestern Germany. She was fun, intelligent, and somewhat intrigued by the first American she had met who spoke German. To her, at the time, America was as far away as Pluto, and she never thought she’d ever see it. For that matter, she thought that she’d never see me again after that summer. Now, 47 years later, I still think she’s beautiful, anyway (opinions may vary), and we’re grandparents three times over.

I should repeat that she does not meet one of the attributes mentioned in the OP. While she is attractive (in my eyes, anyway) and white (comes from a 550 year old family in Germany, so DUH), she is not American. But there is a big world out there. Some meet their ideal partner less than a mile from where they grew up. I had to cross an ocean to meet mine. But there's no reason why it CAN'T happen. So you're not Ben Affleck or Sidney Poitier? Hell, neither am I. It's not always a deciding factor.
December, 1974, in Germany:
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May, 2021 in Dallas (photo by DUer 7wo 7rees):


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Response to DFW (Reply #44)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:23 AM

46. Yours is an interesting, happy story,

The only issue I'd have is the implication that a nerdy, non-rich man (or woman) needs to leave the country to find a mate with similar values..I mean, are you kidding?..If not, I'd suggest you look around the next time you're in the States -- You'll see happy, average-looking, average earning couples all over.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #46)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:41 AM

47. The implication is a false interpretation

I also said some find happiness practically next door. I only implied that one need not LIMIT one’s self in the search for the right partner.

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Response to DFW (Reply #47)

Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:51 AM

48. Not when you state your realization

that "in other cultures" one might find a woman interested in a nerdy, guy with a good sense of humor. No, that's not a misinterpretation.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:25 PM

5. So marry an average looking woman who can do many things.

I did. 34 years ago. And I have no regrets.

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Response to padfun (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 06:39 AM

29. And... I'm waiting for you to say something about ...

How to you she's beautiful? LOL. It's funny how I immediately and defensively wanted to hear that!

As an average gal myself.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

7. Attractive people of Both genders and All races & Nationalities


have an advantage in life. Numerous studies have confirmed that
fact...It's one of those unfortunate "Life Isn't Fair" things, so lest you be labeled a "whiney white guy", you might just want to get over it.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:51 AM

14. Absolutely. I am a white guy who looks like an Adonis and I pretty much just wait for people

to give me stuff.

I've coasted through life just accepting whatever tribute people are willing to pay to be near me.

It's great. I wish everyone could be as good looking as me.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:10 AM

16. and I'm a white woman more gorgeous than...Anybody!

same holds true for me...duh.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:52 AM

15. I dated a couple of very attractive men

Both had something up their ass. Their heads. When I dated men who not so great looking, they made up with manners, conversation , kinder. I like to see a good looking man.. I first check the view. Not wanting a serious relationship but still fun to look. Wish I had learned these lessons when I was young 🙋‍♀️

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Response to Deuxcents (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:18 AM

17. I'm sorry about your experience

but I've also dated very attractive men AND average looking men and found no differences in personality traits.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:45 AM

21. Most men have body types they like. Face men, leg men...

breast men, it just how it is. What first draws their attention. After that it's about compatibility and chemistry.

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Response to brush (Reply #21)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:50 AM

23. So do most women..

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Response to whathehell (Reply #23)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 02:19 AM

26. That's fair. Being a man, I'm curious as to what women look for.

Is it hair, height, face? What?

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Response to brush (Reply #26)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 03:28 AM

27. What a strange question

You just stated “how it is” that some are face men, some are leg men, some are breast men, then turn around and ask someone who states that women feel the same, what women look for - hair, face, height, or what? As if woman unlike men are looking for one thing.

I think the answer is hair if she is a hair woman, face if she is a face woman, and height if she is a height woman. There’s also probably butt women, chest women, cock women (both big and small), and probably a dozen more objectifiers we could fetishize.

Then, of course, there are the non-physical attributes that women might be looking for that make someone “attractive”. But if you’re looking for a hard and fast rule of what women think are attractive, just consider your own statement which implies that men subsegment into many different preferences without there being any hard and fast rule.

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Response to elias7 (Reply #27)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 04:16 AM

28. Why is it a strange question? Men like to know what women think.

If they think the same way as men about the other sex. Often one sees gorgeous women with just average looking, even unattractive men and you wonder what's the attraction.

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Response to brush (Reply #28)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 06:43 AM

30. One difference i think is that "craggy" is something

Many women find attractive in a man. Sam Elliott, say. Trying to think of a younger craggy example... ruggedly handsome. Maybe you have to be older to be craggy?

I don't think there's an equivalent term that men would use to describe a woman attractiveness.

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Response to viva la (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 02:57 PM

37. Ok. That I get. Humphrey Bogart would be an example of that too I guess.

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Response to brush (Reply #37)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 03:29 PM

39. Yes, Bogart is no Ryan Gosling

That's for sure.

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Response to brush (Reply #28)

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:34 AM

45. Well, that's the case with me, and I STILL don't know what the attraction is.

I got lucky and didn't once think to press my luck.

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Response to brush (Reply #26)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 10:27 AM

35. There was a study done awhile ago

that asked women what they looked at first in men..They then
asked men what they ThOUGHT women looked at first. The men generally assumed women first checked out their shoulders.
Turns out the male body part women checked out first was their ass.

Beyond that, height, hair and a decent bod seem to play well


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Response to whathehell (Reply #35)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 02:59 PM

38. Their ass, really? That's a surprise. Whaddya know.

Both sexes have that in common then.

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Response to brush (Reply #38)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 08:04 PM

41. Yep, that's what it said.

I found it a bit surprising myself.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #35)

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:41 AM

43. doesnt surprise me. nice ass, not hard necessarily, but ample. hair, tho

i'm a sucker for a guy w a pony tail. i like a nice bald head, too, tho.
i like beards, but mostly i dont like stubble, so...

i cant take or leave a hairy chest, but for my kid sister, it's mandatory.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:50 AM

22. It's not a white thing, It's a looks thing

People of all races and ethnicity think their looks make them better. I knew a very good looking Menominee man who thought everybody should bow down to him because of his looks.

Wolf

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:52 AM

24. THANK You..

Though I don't agree that all, or even most attractive people think they're "better" than other people...It's not my experience.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #24)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 02:00 AM

25. What I meant was that they think that people should pay attention to them

and listen to what they say.

Wolf

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #25)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 06:47 AM

31. There was a great 30 Rock episode about that

Jon Hamm would go around being beautiful and getting off traffic tickets and such. Liz eventually had to break up with him though the character was quite sweet. He was just blind to his privilege and assumed it was all coming to him because he was deserving.

It was also showing how insecure Liz was about her own completely acceptable looks.

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 05:42 PM

40. Many don't realize their privileged status

In my experience, many attractive men and women don't even realize that they live in a different world than everyone else. They are oblivious to they ways in which they receive preferential treatment -- it's just the air they breathe.

I can remember the time I mentioned just in passing to a friend of mine -- gorgeous, blonde, British accent -- that of course some things were going to be easier for her. It never occurred to me that she was unaware of what seemed to me to be an obvious fact of life. I wasn't ugly, more just ordinary/plain, but the very suggestion that our experiences were different because of our looks made her bristle and protest. I dropped the subject because it wasn't my intention to start a fight, it wasn't something she could control after all, but I was somewhat amused to learn that she didn't have a clue.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:35 AM

33. Attractiveness privilege beats racial privilege any day of the week.

There are a lot of different privileges. We only focus on a few in the political arena. Likely to our detriment.

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:14 AM

36. (ツ)

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Response to Flash953 (Original post)

Sat Aug 7, 2021, 08:09 PM

42. Dont' hate me because i'm beautiful

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