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Baitball Blogger

(46,768 posts)
Sun Aug 22, 2021, 04:44 PM Aug 2021

Anyone in the Lounge have aquarium building experience?

Technically, I'm trying to build a small ground level pool for birds and toads. I am going for natural materials, like rocks and real moss. Where I'm having trouble is finding a material that can bond the rocks together and create a water-tight saucer-shaped pool. I have already researched it and I know I can resort to 100% silicone, because it's aquarium safe. And if it's safe for fish, it should be safe for everything else. But I've worked with silicone before and I want something that will cure into a hard, clear material, and silicone is always rubber-like.

Anyone have any good ideas? If it's epoxy, it has to be known to be safe once cured AND cost effective. I've worked with epoxy before and it's pricey.

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Anyone in the Lounge have aquarium building experience? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 OP
why not use a liner? or go all out and concrete/plaster? Kali Aug 2021 #1
In Florida we have to dump these standing water collectors every four to five days Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #2
Put about two dozen guppies in it. Problem will be solved. jmowreader Aug 2021 #9
They were pretty good when I had them. Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #10
Most people remove them from the pond during the winter jmowreader Aug 2021 #11
I did that for a couple of years. Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #12
We built a fairly large pond for frogs and turtles on our property. A small one uses same technique cayugafalls Aug 2021 #3
That's a nice one! Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #4
'Stone bowls' + reptile bowls, lagoons Donkees Aug 2021 #5
I like that first one! Do you have a link? Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #6
'Stone bowl' was this etsy link .... lots of similar items Donkees Aug 2021 #7
Thank you so much! Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #8

Kali

(55,026 posts)
1. why not use a liner? or go all out and concrete/plaster?
Sun Aug 22, 2021, 04:47 PM
Aug 2021

that would be a lot of goo putting a bunch of rocks together with silicon or epoxy. warm climate will grow algae really fast, think about how you are going to clean it.

Baitball Blogger

(46,768 posts)
2. In Florida we have to dump these standing water collectors every four to five days
Sun Aug 22, 2021, 04:51 PM
Aug 2021

because of mosquitos. I have done such a good job of monitoring the collection of water in my yard that I've only seen two mosquitoes all summer. Small wonder.

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
9. Put about two dozen guppies in it. Problem will be solved.
Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:09 PM
Aug 2021

Guppies are ravenous eaters of mosquito larvae.

Baitball Blogger

(46,768 posts)
10. They were pretty good when I had them.
Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:56 PM
Aug 2021

But, they present their own problems. Like, how do you heat a fountain to keep them alive in the Winter.

Baitball Blogger

(46,768 posts)
12. I did that for a couple of years.
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 03:42 PM
Aug 2021

They reproduce so quickly that it becomes a chore to constantly feed them. Even using those automatic feeders were an issue because the food would get stuck from the humidity. And, then there was the issue of blackouts that lasted more than 24 hours. Doesn't take much to kill a tropical fish over the winter time.

But I did learn one thing. I would love to to have a koi pond some day.

cayugafalls

(5,645 posts)
3. We built a fairly large pond for frogs and turtles on our property. A small one uses same technique
Sun Aug 22, 2021, 04:55 PM
Aug 2021

This is a good writeup on how to do it...over time, the pond will just happen.

https://www.thesprucepets.com/frogs-and-ponds-1238750

Baitball Blogger

(46,768 posts)
4. That's a nice one!
Sun Aug 22, 2021, 05:05 PM
Aug 2021

I actually have a fountain in my yard that attracts frogs and toads. But it's a challenge to bring in native frogs into the yard because we have invasive Cuban frogs that are so much larger than the natives. The Cuban frogs get twice as big and gobble up all the competition. So, for the last two years, we have been eradicating the Cubans and only now are we beginning to see faltering progress.

Another problem is that the natives that do make it into the yard rarely make it through winter because, this being Florida, they don't properly winter. On iffy days they will hang out at the fountain and if you walk by, they'll jump into the cold water and too many have died of shock.

So, I'm hoping I can improve their chances by providing good places for them to be hide and be near water, without relying on the larger body of water.

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