Let's Be Clear About This War On Christmas, Friends

[The Magistrate]

[PJMcK]

1. "November"?!

I saw Christmas decoration going up in mid-October!

Sheesh.

[bikebloke]

39. Jumping the gun.

Someone in my building put decorations up on their door at the beginning of October.

[Coventina]

2. I wish I could recommend this a hundred times, sir!!

[Omnipresent]

3. Christmas over ran both Thanksgiving and Halloween.

Businesses like ‘Lowes’ have their Christmas merchandise out with the Halloween merchandise in early October.

[moose65]

42. Haha

One year at Lowe's they had Christmas stuff out in SEPTEMBER. It wasn't full-bore Christmas city, but it was one aisle. I asked one of the associates and she said that it was company policy to have some Christmas things out before October 1.

It was 75 degrees outside that day

[Omnipresent]

44. If they figure that most people have labor day off...

Why not encourage them to Christmas shop that day?

[soldierant]

58. That makes sense for Lowe's, and for craft stores,

and any business whch sells raw materials to make gifts.

I'm a fast knitter, but I can't start a gift December 24 and have it ready before the 25th is over. Not ever a hat. And certainly not gloves or a sweater.

Other businesses - not so much, I agree.

My late uncle, however, loved Christ,as trees in particular so much his wife was lucky if she could get him to take it out before Easter.

[Croney]

4. I sent this to my daughter, the one who puts up

her huge lovely fake tree the day after Halloween. I must admit, her reply is an understandable rebuttal in these difficult times.

[Unwind Your Mind]

27. Clever daughter

[jcgoldie]

5. There be traitors amongst us

Saw a poll yesterday regarding the listening of the Christmas music. Sad to say it has overtaken us and a good many of our loyal Christmas opposition are already falling prey to the vile yuletide propaganda even as our Thanksgiving turkeys lie in our fridges yet uneaten and barely thawed. Stay vigilant comrades! 👊

[GB_RN]

14. I Worked In Retail For Years In Undergrad...

Back in the ‘90s. My ex-wife also had this particular radio station that would play it non-stop after Thanksgiving, too. I loathe and detest Christmas music of all genres (easy listening, “rock”, pop, etc). It’s just painful.

[OriginalGeek]

40. While I am an atheist

I still celebrate the "spirit" of giving and encourage folks to give me as much as possible.

And I weirdly love christmas music. From Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer to Charlotte Church's amazing rendition of O Holy Night and most things in between (Except Little Drummer Boy. Fuck that guy).

Happy Holidays!

[japple]

51. Oh my! Someone after my own heart. I have a fabulous collection of Christmas music. I think my

favorite is James Brown's version of Please Come Home For Christmas. Quincey Jones' Messiah is a huge favorite. I also have Motown, The Jacksons, The Miracles, Temptations, several CDs of Christmas Gospel, Christmas Bluegrass, New Orleans Christmas (just listen to Johnny Adams sing Silent Night.) Another favorite The McGarrigle Christmas Album and I completely agree with you about the Little Drummer Boy.

[OriginalGeek]

56. I have most of those in my collection

and will avidly pursue the ones I don't. I especially love bluegrass anything even though my death metal heart has to go to its' own happy place when I indulge.

And you can never go wrong with James Brown.

[japple]

62. I hope you have the John Prine christmas album. That's a good one.

If you don't have Beautiful Star of Bethlehem (Ralph Stanley version), that's a great song. Angel Eyes with Emmylou, Willie, Rodney Crowell, with the most beautiful mandolin from Ricky Skaggs.

[dingosatemyusername]

53. best xmas song ever

[OriginalGeek]

57. I L'd right O L

my fellow cubicle dwellers liked it too!

[mnhtnbb]

54. How can you not like the Duke Pearson

rendition of the drummer?

[OriginalGeek]

55. OK well, that one can stay.

But somber church ladies lumbering through it for aeons can get bent.

[mnhtnbb]

70. Haha.

My youngest son is a drummer. I've always loved this rendition.

[MyOwnPeace]

67. The "Ultimate Jazz?"

Gotta' be this one:

'A Child is Born' - Thad Jones & Mel Lewis...............

[mnhtnbb]

69. Nice!

[ChazII]

86. This is a keeper. n/t

[keithbvadu2]

59. He was not always Little Drummer Boy.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

79. LOL. Brilliant!

KY...........

[dickthegrouch]

48. I right with you there

Hearing the same song in four different adverts every nine minutes on tv is excruciating.
I always thank restaurants for not playing Xmas music in December. I would consider it cruel and unusual punishment to be a retail clerk in December.

[wnylib]

21. My solution

1. Wear ear plugs in stores that play Xmas music in November, or that play crappy, annoying Xmas music in December.

2. Put in some ear buds and carry your own music to listen to.

Granted, both solutions work only when you are shopping alone.

[lark]

33. Ever vigilant to the early Christmas heresy!

It's wrong and that is all there is to it. Christmas begins the day after Thanksgiving, period.the.end. Anything Christmas done before then is anti-tradition in my book and I love all of our Christmas traditions! Even though Christmas songs have been on the radio since 2 weeks ago on this one channel, I have not turned it on, and will not until next Friday.

Man the bulwarks, stop the premature invasion!!!

[lark]

34. Ever vigilant to the early Christmas heresy!

It's wrong and that is all there is to it. Christmas begins the day after Thanksgiving, period.the.end. Anything Christmas done before then is anti-tradition in my book and I love all of our Christmas traditions! Even though Christmas songs have been on the radio since 2 weeks ago on this one channel, I have not turned it on, and will not until next Friday.

Man the bulwarks, stop the premature invasion!!!

[Backseat Driver]

76. I'm even worse then...I've been known to play

Christmas season, the time of short days of lower Light, etc...sometimes in the middle of steamy July and October through January that range from George Winston w/Windham Hill's album offerings of December, several Winter Solstice I, II, and III to music from both European British Renaissance (brass) and Spanish Renaissance (guitar) and even Georgian chants and Celtic bagpipes, Manheim Steamroller and TSO (Transiberian Orchestra), yup, I'm a regular eclectic blasphemous pagan heretic...

[plimsoll]

6. Maybe if there were decent Thanksgiving Carols?

You know put everyone in the mood.

Oh wait, are we celebrating the victory at Gettysburg or the harvest festival the Pilgrims had at Plymouth? I'm pretty sure this one was declared by Lincoln. I think it's that fifth column of GOPers who support the Confederacy.

[Wednesdays]

8. Thanksgiving carols?

"Over the river and through the woods..."

[plimsoll]

12. Battle Hymn of the Republic

[wnylib]

22. ?? For Thanksgiving?

[plimsoll]

50. Well, Lincoln did declare the National day of Thanksgiving for Gettysburg.

[Backseat Driver]

77. Come, Ye Thankful People, Come! and

Alice's Restaurant, every year, LOL!

[Sancho]

10. Never forget the Bowling Green massacre!!

[wnylib]

23. Such a bloodbath that they should call it

The Bowling Red Massacre.

[yellowdogintexas]

29. that would be a WKU Hilltopper basketball game

Bonus: WKU colors are Red and White.

Those players get fierce and of course it is in KY the Mother Church of College Basketball. Lots of National Championships at both Div I and Div II level.

[jcgoldie]

11. ...

[samnsara]

20. Im adding this to my Tday entertainment. I stayed at the Hotel Sorrento in Seattle as..

..Alice B Toklas's ghost is supposed haunt it. (her family lived near the area). Sheesh I even called forth her name and nothing

[lastlib]

35. Hey, you can't post this until Thursday! It's already been decided!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181587105

If you guys keep this up, it'll be up before Halloween before you know it, and kill the whole spirit of it. We cannot abide by that.

[jcgoldie]

36. oh shit

Sorry nobody tells me anything.

[lastlib]

37. Well, we can overlook it this time, as long as you're contrite.

But please stick with the program from now on!

(you're cool!)

[Vdizzle]

30. Nah. We just treat thanksgiving as the opening feast to the holiday season.

I don’t really mind Christmas decorations encroaching on thanksgiving’s turf.

[samnsara]

7. i usually put my tree up the day after Halloween but this year I waited until..

...after Nov 1

[Harker]

9. Happy Hallowthanksmasyear, everyone! n/t

[GB_RN]

15. Try It This Way...

Happy Hallow-Thanks-Christma-Hanna-Kwanza-ku.

That way, you get them all! 😁

[Harker]

17. Thank you...

I exclusively do try to be inclusive.

[wnylib]

24. You left out Solstice for the Pagans.

[GB_RN]

26. D'oh!

🤦‍♂️

[KS Toronado]

28. Aren't most Pagans known as QublicOns?

[wnylib]

32. Tsk, tsk KS Toronado.

You are blaspheming. The QublicOns are devout evangelicals.

Pagans are nature worshippers and cross over with Wiccans. QubicOns would stone them in public squares if they could get away with it

[KS Toronado]

38. Oops, my bad!

QubicOns did stone police Jan 6th, so they are good at that.

[Texaswitchy]

47. You do not many pagans

The winter solstice is the reason for the season.

The christians stoled the celebration and renamed it.

[wnylib]

60. Christians stole Mithra's birthday.

The season sort of comes with that birthday.

[Texaswitchy]

63. Yep.

Easter and Halloween also.

All the cool holidays.

[wnylib]

64. They all have the same basic theme, though,

regardless of which religious title is attached.

Halloween honors departed people, death as part of the cycle of life and the death or sleep of Nature (in the northern hemisphere) whether you celebrate Samhein or Halloween and All Saints Day.

Easter is about new life, rebirth and renewal, whether you are Christian or honor pre-Christian spring holidays.

The same human concerns and themes get told and retold in various religious forms. When different cultures meet, they merge.

[Texaswitchy]

66. Yeah but we had it before the early Christians.

Just a way to change pagans to Christians.

That was the point.

Rename it and let the pagans continue on.

With time people forgot the origin of the holidays.

[wnylib]

68. Of course you had it before the

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Christians. Christianity is younger.

Christianity merged some Jewish history and moral views with non Jewish religions.

Actually, in the history of Christianity, you could say that it was the non Jewish religions that hijacked Christianity. The earliest "Christians" were a Jewish sect. When Saul/Paul of Tarsus opened up the Jewish sect of the followers of the teachings of Jesus to Gentiles, the Gentile perspective of Jesus and his life became dominant. It split the Jewish sect apart until the original followers of Jesus faded out of view and were replaced by Romanized and Hellenized views and theology, with a smattering of Zoroastrianism added, since parts of it had infiltrated Roman and Jewish religious views and practices even before the time of Jesus.

So Pagans and other Gentiles hijacked the early Jewish Christian sect to create the form of Christianity that became dominant.

[Texaswitchy]

71. Paganism and witchcraft is based on nature worship.

Like I said above the early Christians highjacked pagan holidays to turn pagans into Christians.

The big three big Christian holidays are pagan.

How many people burn a yule log or have green tree in their house.

All saints day, and Easter.


Why the Easter bunny and colored eggs in the spring.


It is just what happened.

I am not looking for a fight.

History is history.

[wnylib]

72. I am not looking for a fight, either,

just drawing on my studies in anthropology on religious synchronisms and how they develop, merge, and morph when cultures come in contact with each other.

[samnsara]

13. I, for one, love the Christmas decorations....they can stay up all year and I would be happy

...I love the Christmas music but I cant stomach those syrupy Hallmark Channel type movies.

Give me a steady diet of The Grismores and I'm smiley face.

[Traildogbob]

31. To each......

I leave up Father's Day decorations year round. We all have our Favs. I leave Halloween up until Christmas is gone. Santa never stops here😩😩😩. He hates skeletons. He thinks I’m fat shaming.

[Backseat Driver]

78. LOL, good on you, Traildogbob, Darwin Award Santa's do seem

to go down chimneys to take away stuff, most often located in pharmacies, and often get stuck leaving or returning to the magic, invisible, red-nosed reindeer-powered get-away vehicle - very naughty!

And in one of my old neighborhoods, samnsara, there was the iconic story about the "boys" previously occupying my home who sent their vintage silver fully decorated Christmas tree up with several skyrockets on Independence Day, LOL! Both glorious to behold and very naughty, LOL!

[Traildogbob]

80. 😂😂😂🤜🤛

[KY_EnviroGuy]

81. LOL. You're giving me visions and I just have to ask....

Approximately how high did the rocket tree fly?..... ..

[Backseat Driver]

85. About the height of a bi-level home, I'm told...

where upon there was a shower of sparks and sparkling shreds of debris all over the street.

[IronLionZion]

16. The Klaus regime has been waging war on Thanksgiving and Halloween

all while pretending to be the victim of liberals. Don't fall for that BS. Christmas is the wealthy powerful aggressor.

[wnylib]

25. For sure. Xmas killed Mithra and stole his birthday.

[malthaussen]

18. Charlie Brown once asked why the spirit of Christmas couldn't last all year 'round...

... and Lucy told him not to be a fanatic.

-- Mal

[Pinback]

19. The October 31st Brigade lends its full-bellied support!

[arlyellowdog]

41. I start before Veterans' Day while it's warmer

My Christmas display is way over the top. My grandkids and the neighborhood kids live it. My neighbors respond by getting out and putting up lights. I’m a septuagenarian widow and you either appreciate my art or you don’t. Come by and smile.

[SouthernDem4ever]

43. War on Xmas carnage

[Martin Eden]

45. Hero of Little Round Top

Is a good enough authority for me!

[The Magistrate]

82. Thank You, Sir

I had not made the identification.

That was the right man in the right place at the right time.

[Martin Eden]

83. If you haven't seen the movie "Gettysburg" it's worth checking out

IMO the best dialogue was between Chamberlain and his Irish sargent who believed the only true aristocracy is (pointing at his head) the aristocracy of the mind.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

46. Christmas in July .... (TV shopping networks)

[PurgedVoter]

49. Remember when Rudolf was a hero?

Then we found out he was just a shill for the electric razor/military industrial complex. For shame!

[Torchlight]

52. I tell my conservo-family 'happy holidays!' They get frustrated and ask me

to use the holiday name. I respond, "guy- you taught me that ALL holidays matter, if I single one out, it minimizes all the others."

Could be the reason my gf and I are staying home this week

[Grokenstein]

73. "Use the holiday's name!!" "Okay."

"Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Kwanzaa."

[Rhiannon12866]

61. K&R!

When I went to pick up a prescription a couple of weeks ago, there was already Christmas music playing! And there are the TV ads, not to mention the Christmas displays already set up in any store you walk into...

[pansypoo53219]

65. santa won the war on CHRISTmas. or crapitalism.

[NoMoreRepugs]

74. Thanks Magistrate. I so appreciate a smile in the early AM.

[Wolf Frankula]

75. If we get behind the Grinch and 'Back the Attack'

We can Win the War on Christmas.

Wolf

[KY_EnviroGuy]

84. How's that appropriation bill coming that supports War on Christmas troops?

Last I heard, there's a horrible shortage of red ribbon bazookas and artificial snow bombs....

Is Turtle McScrooge sitting on that one too?

[DFW]

87. I just recycle a phrase I liked from the Vietnam War

« What if they had a war and nobody came? »

[NNadir]

88. This needs a kick.