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LuckyCharms

(22,651 posts)
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:11 PM Jan 2022

No sleep for about 50 hours and counting

Stress.

I'm all spun up.

Please post your recommendations on how the hell I can get to sleep.

I don't do drugs except for weed occasionally, and weed doesn't make me sleepy. I don't drink.

I probably won't respond, so I'll thank you in advance.

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No sleep for about 50 hours and counting (Original Post) LuckyCharms Jan 2022 OP
Hot shower and warm milk. Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #1
Do themost boring thing you can think of. SheltieLover Jan 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author LuckyCharms Jan 2022 #10
What a beautiful Sheltie! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #12
❤️❤️❤️ spooky3 Jan 2022 #14
Darn. elleng Jan 2022 #3
Oh thanks so much elleng, LuckyCharms Jan 2022 #6
Glad to hear your hand is improving! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #13
Easy yoga Sanity Claws Jan 2022 #4
melatonin works for me. jmbar2 Jan 2022 #5
Taking melatonin supplements inhibits the body's natural production of it. (Use it or lose it). TheBlackAdder Jan 2022 #9
I don't need it very often jmbar2 Jan 2022 #16
No sleep for 50 hours . . . people Jan 2022 #7
Good idea. Along those same lines... Rachel M at 6 pm Jan 2022 #31
Quick dissove melatonin pills 20 mg. I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2022 #8
20 mg?! Phentex Jan 2022 #23
Than take the hops flowers I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2022 #25
Good to know! Phentex Jan 2022 #29
I would recommend turning off all technology and live like it's 1950 for a bit. TheBlackAdder Jan 2022 #11
I would be happy to call you and deliver the most boring lecture ever. spooky3 Jan 2022 #15
What I do... Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #17
A similar exercise works for me: Totally Tunsie Jan 2022 #24
🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 Donkees Jan 2022 #18
LOL thanks, that's pretty good! LuckyCharms Jan 2022 #19
You could try counting Gabi's - OhZone Jan 2022 #21
Read the book piddyprints Jan 2022 #20
Been there......sux alittlelark Jan 2022 #22
Thank you, I'm going to try this. I have a question... LuckyCharms Jan 2022 #27
Holy shit!! Thanks, alittlelark! IT WORKED! LuckyCharms Jan 2022 #33
Explore the Solfeggio tones. alittlelark Jan 2022 #37
I searched for these sounds for HBP, and found something that I think will be very helpful. Sogo Jan 2022 #40
If it's due to stress, I have a couple of recommendations wackadoo wabbit Jan 2022 #26
Thanks all. LuckyCharms Jan 2022 #28
WHITE NOISE (or brown, purple, pink, whatever works) Rachel M at 6 pm Jan 2022 #30
I regularly alternate between two ambient noise apps Generic Brad Jan 2022 #36
Try progressive muscle relaxation SheltieLover Jan 2022 #32
Drink hot water and... zanana1 Jan 2022 #34
Though it might be a tough advice: Try to enjoy it! TomWilm Jan 2022 #35
Melatonin, white noise, meditation ificandream Jan 2022 #38
Glad you got some sleep! Here's another idea... electric_blue68 Jan 2022 #39
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #41
If you're not allergic to peanuts, eat a tablespoon's worth of peanut butter. tblue37 Jan 2022 #42
Take a benadryl or two Mosby Jan 2022 #43

Response to SheltieLover (Reply #2)

LuckyCharms

(22,651 posts)
6. Oh thanks so much elleng,
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:24 PM
Jan 2022

But they're a lot better, I think they will be ok.

Having a lot of skin problems, etc. It's just the stress of being essentially locked up here for almost two years. It's starting to break me. Skin problems, mental health turning to shit, etc.

Some friends of mine have Covid and I've been trying to help them out, etc.

SheltieLover

(80,482 posts)
13. Glad to hear your hand is improving!
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:36 PM
Jan 2022

Yup, this pandemic sux!

Living vicariously here as well.

Sanity Claws

(22,413 posts)
4. Easy yoga
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:21 PM
Jan 2022

Here is a link to a yoga video that will help your nervous system to calm sleep and allow you to sleep.,

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
9. Taking melatonin supplements inhibits the body's natural production of it. (Use it or lose it).
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:30 PM
Jan 2022

.

There are ways to naturally build up melatonin production. Drs Berg & Sten Ekberg have videos on it.

Taking it once or twice, every so often doesn't impact the body, but frequent supplement use makes one dependent on it.

.

people

(844 posts)
7. No sleep for 50 hours . . .
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:25 PM
Jan 2022

Pick up a book that you have been looking at for years or months that you think you "should" read and decide you are going to read that book all the way through. Do it while lying down on a sofa or on your bed. The important part is it should be something you don't really think is enjoyable to read - should be boring boring boring. Tell yourself you have to try to really take it in as you are reading it.

Rachel M at 6 pm

(156 posts)
31. Good idea. Along those same lines...
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:21 AM
Jan 2022

Sometimes I will pick some project I've been dreading and procrastinating on. I pick the worst one I can think of and imagine I'm doing it. I imagine every step of the project from the beginning, including whatever boring tasks might proceed the project. And I decide that if I can't sleep, I have to get out of bed and actually start the awful project. I guess my subconscious rebels at that, because it always works.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
8. Quick dissove melatonin pills 20 mg.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:30 PM
Jan 2022

Take 2. Take also 2 high mg. Hops capsules.
It really helps me
Puts me out and keeps me out until I wake up in the morning.

Phentex

(16,709 posts)
23. 20 mg?!
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:22 PM
Jan 2022

I am so sensitive to it. I used to break the 3 mg tablet in half. Then I found the 1 mg for kids.

I rarely need anything to fall asleep. It's the staying asleep I struggle with sometimes.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
25. Than take the hops flowers
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:29 PM
Jan 2022

323 mg.capsule is what I take. It keeps you asleep after the melatonin does it's job.

I have hideous insomnia
Didn't know if you had it too. .

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
11. I would recommend turning off all technology and live like it's 1950 for a bit.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:34 PM
Jan 2022

.

It will be very unnerving for a while as one goes through a detox from technology, but that's a main contributor to people's stresses, besides things like money and family.


.

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
15. I would be happy to call you and deliver the most boring lecture ever.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:42 PM
Jan 2022

Seriously, I hope you can sleep soon. I like to fall asleep watching Frasier reruns. Would that help you?

Ohio Joe

(21,898 posts)
17. What I do...
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:43 PM
Jan 2022

I start with a glass of warm milk and honey. Once in bed, I think about each body part and make sure it is relaxed. Start with feet, then hands, legs and arms, chest and neck… Then finally the face. Once fully relaxed, I clear my mind by just letting it travel down a dark pathway.

Works for me.

Totally Tunsie

(11,854 posts)
24. A similar exercise works for me:
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:22 PM
Jan 2022

I start at my toes and say "goodnight" to each body section and feel it drift away, working my way up. I rarely make it to my head as I'm asleep by the time I get that far.

OhZone

(3,216 posts)
21. You could try counting Gabi's -
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:07 PM
Jan 2022


Doesn't work for me since my ex's name is Gabriella and she actually looks a little like that for real.

piddyprints

(15,107 posts)
20. Read the book
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:58 PM
Jan 2022

Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker. It helped me tremendously. A bonus is that the book itself is somewhat soporific.

It’s available in Kindle and Audible, so you can start right away.

alittlelark

(19,139 posts)
22. Been there......sux
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:12 PM
Jan 2022

Been there - Try YouTube - 'solfeggio tones and sleep' in the search

U will be amazed tomm morning!!

&t=7190s

Just one example

LuckyCharms

(22,651 posts)
27. Thank you, I'm going to try this. I have a question...
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:34 PM
Jan 2022

Do you think that the noise made by a small space heater would interfere with this? I'm not too familiar with this type of thing.

Thanks much

LuckyCharms

(22,651 posts)
33. Holy shit!! Thanks, alittlelark! IT WORKED!
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:18 AM
Jan 2022

Got around 6 hours of solid sleep, which for me, is good.

alittlelark

(19,139 posts)
37. Explore the Solfeggio tones.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jan 2022

YouTube has millions - not all will resonate with you, but I guarantee you will find Many that do !!

Sogo

(7,191 posts)
40. I searched for these sounds for HBP, and found something that I think will be very helpful.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:57 PM
Jan 2022

Thanks for posting this, which gave me a new possibility for relief from a scary condition....

wackadoo wabbit

(1,296 posts)
26. If it's due to stress, I have a couple of recommendations
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:30 PM
Jan 2022

1. GABA, specifically PharmaGABA, which is believed to cross the blood brain barrier more easily. For me, chewables work best. Here's what I use:

https://www.iherb.com/pr/natural-factors-stress-relax-pharma-gaba-100-mg-60-chewable-tablets/8351

(iHerb's running a sale for 20% off this right now. I'm not shopping VitaCost currently because it's owned by Kroger, and workers in Colorado are striking against Kroger.)

2. Magnesium. Lots of magnesium. You'd be surprised at how deficient many (most?) people are in this mineral. Magnesium glycinate works best for sleep. I take 200 mg of Mg glycinate nightly along with another 500 mg of a mixture of oxide, citrate, and succinate.

These aren't the only supplements that I take for sleep, but they are the ones that will work best against stress.

I went for more than 2 decades with only 3-4 hours of sleep per night, so you have my empathy. Since I've been taking my sleep supplement protocol, I now get anywhere from 6 to 8 hours per night (the amount of sleep I get depends generally on how high my stress levels are). Honestly, getting more sleep has been a lifesaver for me.

Good luck!

LuckyCharms

(22,651 posts)
28. Thanks all.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:36 PM
Jan 2022

Headed off to my flea pit to try again.

Keep the shiny side up, or whatever the hell that saying is.

Rachel M at 6 pm

(156 posts)
30. WHITE NOISE (or brown, purple, pink, whatever works)
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:12 AM
Jan 2022

I realize that for some people, white noise has the opposite effect. But for me, the discovery of white noise apps marked the end of a lifetime of insomnia. (I tried many colors of noise, some better than others, and the one I like best is called "air conditioning." I don't mean an air conditioner itself; it's one of the choices on my white noise app. As to actual colors of noise, I liked brown the best.)

I also use something I call "forced lucid dreaming." I don't try to sleep. Instead, I close my eyes and imagine I'm climbing, flying, spinning, breaking things ... any kind of manic activity. Eventually, someone will approach me and start a conversation, and that's usually the last thing I remember.

I don't smoke weed anymore, but certain strains used to knock me out so effectively, I would fall asleep sitting upright with the pipe in my hand. I found the best strains for combating insomnia to be any indica with "berry" in the name, especially blackberry and blueberry. Also, "Grape Ape" was guaranteed to put me to sleep. (I did see that you stated weed doesn't make you sleepy, but I'm suggesting these strains in case you haven't tried them.)

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
36. I regularly alternate between two ambient noise apps
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:49 PM
Jan 2022

"Rain, Rain" and "Better Sleep" have done wonders to eliminate my chronic insomnia. And then I wear my Fitbit to bed so I can analyze my sleep quality the next day and figure out when I need more sleep or a different sound mix.

SheltieLover

(80,482 posts)
32. Try progressive muscle relaxation
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:24 AM
Jan 2022

Just a simple matter of tightening each group of muscles, holding, releasing tension, then not moving muscles for 30 seconds or more.

Usually quite effective.

Another is autogenic suggestion. Get in comfy position, do a few deep breaths & begin stating in the most boring monotone voice you can muster, "my arms & legs are warm & heavy." Or "My heart is beating strong & calm."

Autogenic suggestion is very popular abroad.

I hope this helps.

zanana1

(6,488 posts)
34. Drink hot water and...
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:05 AM
Jan 2022

Turn on the TV. It doesn't matter what's on, just lower the volume to a soft murmur. Close your eyes and think of a typical day. C'est tout.

TomWilm

(1,964 posts)
35. Though it might be a tough advice: Try to enjoy it!
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jan 2022

... it is a bitch not to sleep, when you want to - but be assured, that it is not harmful not to sleep. Unless it keeps being that way. I have it like once in a month, and just get out of bed, dress up and start doing stuff.

I have once forced myself to stay awake, since I had a big job to finish (programming) - for five days straight. And did a decent job out of it too!

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
38. Melatonin, white noise, meditation
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 05:09 PM
Jan 2022

I have sleep issues myself, though not stress. But I've used melatonin, which is a natural treatment for sleep, for years And it's cheap. White noise and meditation (or yoga) are also good. Good luck.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
39. Glad you got some sleep! Here's another idea...
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 05:49 PM
Jan 2022

this is a new one I thought of, it might be helping.
(For a while I had horrific insomnia. I have medication for it)

I imagine watching someone falling asleep when they want to be up, say, writing a paper in long hand, typing on their computer, reading a good book.

Watch their eyes begin to flutter, slowly close, then open. Head dips. Head shake to stay awake. More eye flutters. Heads dips. Eyes stay close. Head lowers on to surface. Out like a light. 😴

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