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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:40 AM Feb 2022

'Children for Sale'

“A big ‘For Sale’ sign in a Chicago yard mutely tells the tragic story of Mr. and Mrs. Ray Chalifoux, who face eviction from their apartment. With no place to turn, the jobless coal truck driver and his wife decide to sell their four children. Mrs. Lucille Chalifoux turns her head from camera above while her children stare wonderingly. On the top step are Lana, 6, and Rae, 5. Below are Milton, 4, and Sue Ellen, 2.”



“An Ashamed Mother Puts Her Four Children Up For Sale in Chicago in 1948;
The Story Behind the Famous Picture”
https://www.vintag.es/2013/07/4-children-for-sale.html

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'Children for Sale' (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 OP
What a sad story. Fla Dem Feb 2022 #1
This is why I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #2
There was a fifth child. She was pregnant. secondwind Feb 2022 #3
If you look closely left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 #4
I don't think it is a leg, it's her arm. secondwind Feb 2022 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 #7
And the article says that after she sold these 5 off, 2 into terrible abuse, she had 4 others. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #8
I hope the parents are burning in hell! Emile Feb 2022 #6
Did anyone happen to see this similar story from The WAPO Magazine Backseat Driver Feb 2022 #9

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,470 posts)
2. This is why
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:19 AM
Feb 2022

We need abortion and birth control and child care Because without them some women are forced to be dependant on men. And sometimes abusive men. I dont know the circumstances because I couldnt read the entire article. But to the well off corporate owner we are expendable. We are less than. We dont deserve to live well. Wage slavery is slavery by another name.
This family was a v8ctim of wage slavery and being seen as disposable.

But the corporate slime want people over a barrel so they dont have to pay a real living wage to anyone or an equal wage to women.,and the christian fundie churches want to go back to abrahamic law. And dont get me started on the fucking dominioinist assholes.

In the bible slavery is ok with jesus.
And christian identity movements just love that shit..

Whatever circumstances this family was in it should not happen anymore but it still happens.

https://www.unicefusa.org/child-trafficking-us


secondwind

(16,903 posts)
3. There was a fifth child. She was pregnant.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:41 AM
Feb 2022

Only 24 years old, husband was 40. They were all sold to different homes, according to the article.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
5. I don't think it is a leg, it's her arm.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 06:13 AM
Feb 2022

The article said there were 4, this is one if the saddest stories I have ever heard. Usually there is extended family that pitches in and helps. They may have been immigrants who came over.

Tragic. The article gives more details

Response to secondwind (Reply #5)

Emile

(22,739 posts)
6. I hope the parents are burning in hell!
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 07:36 AM
Feb 2022

My lord, what a sad story. These kids had it rough!

According to RaeAnn, she was sold for $2 to farmers John and Ruth Zoeteman on Aug. 27, 1950. Her brother Milton was crying nearby during the transaction, so the couple took him as well. Their names were changed to Beverly and Kenneth, and although their birth mother’s situation was dire, their new home wasn’t much of a salvation. They were often chained up in a barn and forced to work long hours in the field. Milton remembers being called a “slave” by his new father figure, a label he accepted at the time because he didn’t understand what it meant.

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
9. Did anyone happen to see this similar story from The WAPO Magazine
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:50 AM
Feb 2022

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/interactive/2022/dna-testing-bryntwick-siblings/
‘DNA Doesn’t Lie. People Lie.’
After discovering six adopted brothers and sisters, these siblings
believe their story is more than a sprawling family secret
By Jaclyn Peiser
Feb. 9, 2022

[snip]

Over the course of Mike and Anne’s almost decade-long relationship, according to the siblings, they bore more children. “I was young, and I didn’t understand why she would keep on having babies,” Bob says. When he was a teenager Ed told him that their other brothers and sisters were sold to families. “Mike was getting $10,000 per child,” Bob remembers Ed telling him. Understanding that the various pregnancies amounted to selling the babies made sense to Bob and Barbara, who described their family as poor. Barbara remembers eating better when Mike was around. “There was money when he came through,” she says.

What the Bryntwick children suspect was happening in their home was not illegal in Quebec in the 1950s. Neither Canada nor the United States had federal laws barring the sale of babies. In 1955 there was only one Canadian province that banned the act, and in 1956, The Washington Post reported, 32 states had “no criminal statute barring baby sales.” This lack of oversight bred an exploitative environment. [snip]

Sorry for the PAYWALL on this sad and complicated story that took place not so far in the past...
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