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UTUSN

(70,781 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:28 AM Jun 2022

So much for "love" for a Brit crown - at your own risk. G'nite.

ON EDIT: Oh, back in the '90s when an Enquirer item said Wallis learned sexual manuevers in China when one of her spouses was an ambassador there, which were supposedly the secret of Eddie's attraction to her:

A co-worker, ex-nun who supposedly never judged, said, "Well, how good that they *FOUND* each other."

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10905345/ANDREW-LOWRIE-Edward-gave-throne-woman-didnt-love-cheated-him.html

How Edward gave up the throne for a woman who didn't love him, cheated on him and grew to despise him: ANDREW LOWRIE casts a dramatic new light on the Wallis Simpson story... including exile, secret agents and her lover accused of castrating a partner


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So much for "love" for a Brit crown - at your own risk. G'nite. (Original Post) UTUSN Jun 2022 OP
Neither of Wallis's husbands ... NanceGreggs Jun 2022 #1
Forests can be lost for the trees. I'll be sure to notify the Enquirer or whomever. UTUSN Jun 2022 #2
I have read ... NanceGreggs Jun 2022 #3
Did you read the article in the OP, which is reporting, not fabrication? UTUSN Jun 2022 #4

NanceGreggs

(27,821 posts)
1. Neither of Wallis's husbands ...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:47 AM
Jun 2022

... ever served as an ambassador to China.

So wrong info right off the top.

UTUSN

(70,781 posts)
2. Forests can be lost for the trees. I'll be sure to notify the Enquirer or whomever.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 04:20 AM
Jun 2022

****QUOTE****

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallis_Simpson
Wallis toured China, and while in Beijing stayed with Katherine and Herman Rogers, who were to remain her longterm friends.[25] According to the wife of one of Win's fellow officers, Mrs. Milton E. Miles,[26] in Beijing Wallis met Count Galeazzo Ciano, later Mussolini's son-in-law and Foreign Minister, had an affair with him, and became pregnant, leading to a botched abortion that left her infertile.[27] The rumor was later widespread but never substantiated and Ciano's wife, Edda Mussolini, denied it.[28] The existence of an official "China dossier" (detailing the supposed sexual and criminal exploits of Wallis in China) is denied by historians and biographers.[29] Wallis spent over a year in China, during which time—according to the socialite Madame Wellington Koo—she only managed to master one Chinese phrase: "Boy, pass me the champagne".[30][31] By September 1925, she and her husband were back in the United States, though living apart.[32] Their divorce was finalized on December 10, 1927.[33]

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NanceGreggs

(27,821 posts)
3. I have read ...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 04:56 AM
Jun 2022

... many, many books about Wallis over the past four decades, read newspaper articles about her from her era, watched hundreds of hours of interviews, documentaries, etc.

As you can see, I am rather obsessive about the topic.

The gossip about her invariably turns out to be just that - gossip - hearsay, quotes that are never substantiated, stories that have been circulated since she first came to the public's attention and have been regurgitated with regularity for generations now - and always presented as "newly uncovered facts".

I pointed out the fact that neither of her husbands served as an ambassador to China because if one can't get that simple fact straight, everything that follows is probably just as poorly researched and therefore inaccurate - if not downright fabricated.








UTUSN

(70,781 posts)
4. Did you read the article in the OP, which is reporting, not fabrication?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jun 2022

And the word "gossip" is not a synonym for "untruth".

I'm certainly not obsessive about her and her last husband, have only ingested bits as I chanced upon them over most of my 75 years given the attention those two have attracted - the grifting, the groveling, the treason...

But to get to the apparent tree of contention here: I was slap dash, granted, about the husband's office in his being posted to "the Far East", as it was caĺled in the one google I splurged time on to assuage your dissent. My bringing up China and sexual arts was a gratuitous add-on to the OP article, drawing on my memory of one of the long ago bits I've ingested and spit out, my not finding it important enough to check the fellow's job title as opposed to the titillation of her being in China and what she learned there.

It sounds like you dismiss the past decade or two of "new" reporting on the romanticized myth of their "love," which is your prerogative - her not wanting the whole shebang with him, her love letters to (which) husband to the end, "trapped" as Harry would put it.

The point lost in my add-on was the ex-nun's bon mot about their having "found each other", an attempted grace note of poetic license. I make no pretense of putting this at the level of scholarship since we're on an internet board and in Lounge, for goodness' sake.

I fully yield to the schooling, my own dissent being the tone (not the detail).

I'm gone from this particular sub-topic and hope not to have to trouble to self-delete just for it not to go on.





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