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LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 08:26 AM Jun 2022

All I can do is laugh.

I have this spreadsheet that I use to keep track of my monthly bills.

While going through the spreadsheet this morning, I noticed that the only bill I had left to pay this month was a quarterly premium due for a group life insurance policy. I've been paying this premium every quarter for decades. For discussion, let's say the quarterly premium is $150.

Every quarter this company sends me an easy to read bill in plenty of time to pay before the premium due date, which in this case is July 1, about 10 days from now. So I just go to my bank's online site, and cut them a check through my bank's bill paying service, and done. Easy.

Like clockwork, for some reason, about once every two years, this company gets a hair up their ass and doesn't send me a bill. I knew I was going to have a problem this month, because about a week ago, I got an email from them, asking me to pay the bill online. I just kept the email in my in box, assuming that they would send me a paper bill. Well, this morning, I figured that I better look into paying this bill, even though I have not received a paper bill in the mail yet, because it is getting close to the due date.

So I went to the email that I received and clicked on the link in the email. The link took me to a site where it told me I needed to set up an online account. Okay.

45 fucking minutes to set this account up.

First, you had to key in the first 3 letters of your last name. Check.

Key in your policy number. Okay.

I grabbed an old paper bill to get the policy number. It's a string of about 20 alpha-numeric characters. So I keyed it in.

"Sorry, that policy is not in our records".

Okay, I'm tired, must have typed it in wrong. I typed it in again. Same message.

So then I just tried typing in the numeric string of characters. Same message. Now I'm getting pissed, and I tried about 5 different variations of the policy number, and it was not accepting any of them. Times a wastin'. I got shit to do today.

I managed to figure out that you had to type in the middle 9 digits. Oh. That worked.

Then, you had to type in all of this other shit. The last thing said "Type the code below into the box provided.

Took me 5 tries. Is that a lower case L or a capital I? Is that fucker a zero, or the letter "O"?

Then, I'm trying to put in a password, and it took me about 10 tries because it kept getting rejected. So I decided to look at the password requirements and I felt like I was reading an encyclopedia. "Password must be between 8 and 13 characters in length. Password will be rejected if a sequential string of characters longer than two characters is contained within your last name. Password must contain at least two upper case letters, two symbols, and two numbers. Password must contain at least two characters. Do not use the following characters !,.$*()+".

I finally get in to where I can pay the bill. I click "pay online".

It brings me to a page that says I owe something like $127.42. I'm thinking that's not right, the bill should be $150. So I start reading the fine print and it says something like "Please be aware that you are only paying online for the cost of insurance. The portion of your premium attributable to the cash value portion of your policy must be paid through the mail by check". Also, please be aware that we do not accept credit cards for any online payments".

MOTHERFUCKER!!

I gave up on the online payment and decided to call customer service. My car insurance has 24 hour phone support, so I figured I'd take a chance and try it.

I called the customer service number, and instantly entered phone menu hell. Had to key in about 10 different things. last 4 of SSN, birthdate, policy number, etc. The last thing was my 5 digit zip code. It wouldn't accept it. Typed the same thing in about 7 times. Finally it took.

"If you are calling about payment on a group life insurance policy, you will need to speak directly to a customer service representative. Please press one if you wish to do so".

No problem. I pressed 1, put it on speaker phone, put some music on, and sat there with my thumb up my ass.

"Our office is currently experiencing higher than normal call volume. We apologize for the delay. We will be with you as soon as possible".

After about 12 minutes of being on hold I hear:

"We're sorry. Our offices our currently closed. Please call back after 8 AM central time".

Now, I'm all hassled up first thing in the morning, and my schedule is thrown off. I'll call them back after 800 central, but I had a really bad experience the last time I had to talk to someone there.

My anxiety has to do with the fact that that I have this personal rule of trying to never, ever get upset on the phone with customer service people. They have to deal with a lot of shit, so I try to be hyper-polite. But I remember the internal conflict I had with the woman I spoke to there the last time I called when the customer service woman took on an attitude with me and said something snarky like "Sir, it is not necessarily our responsibility to send you a bill, but it is certainly your responsibility to make sure your premium is paid on time".

I responded politely to her while thinking FUUUUUUUCCCCK YOUUUUUU.

I typed all of this out because I'm trying to kill time until 800 Central Time.

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SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
1. Good grief, what a nightmare for you! I had similar problems w/ other websites and my other
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 08:30 AM
Jun 2022

half told me that they think companies do this deliberately do this (sign up again every year or so) so they'll lose people over the frustration of doing this/the things you have to do in order to get bills paid.

Good luck to you, hang in there, and take a deep breath.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
2. They do it so that they can charge late fees and/or cancel your policy
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 09:01 AM
Jun 2022

If you've been paying for years and you don't pay one premium,
they cancel you and get to keep your money.

Right before the W economic crash, my bank sold my mortgage to Countrywide. If anyone remembers them they were charged with mortgage fraud during the crash. Countrywide kept changing the address ever time the monthly payment was due. So, then of course our payment would be late and they would charge huge late fees. After this happened a 3rd time we moved our mortgage to a more reliable bank. Two can play that sell off your mortgage game.

Though they were prosecuted for fraud they never gave us back thousands in late fees. It was an economic crash, we could have used that money they stole from us. But of course bailouts were for banks and austerity was for American citizens.

rubbersole

(6,686 posts)
3. What a great piece of writing, LuckyCharms!
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 09:13 AM
Jun 2022

Describes corporate subscriptions to a T. Submit this essay to the New Yorker!

Marthe48

(16,935 posts)
5. Copy and paste the numbers and letters
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:25 AM
Jun 2022

of any serial number, policy number, other ID numbers you aren't familar with into a word processor. Then use the change case featue and you'll see if the if it's a zero or and O, or what the L is--upper case I or lower case l.

And on a lighter note, saw a cartoon once where a guy set up a password using 'penis' As he snickered, his computer cave him the message, "Sorry, it's too short'

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