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milestogo

(23,082 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 11:37 AM Dec 2022

Who do you hate that everyone else seems to love?

For me its John Lennon. By all reports he was a misogynist, homophobe, and a really nasty guy.

But everyone else seems to overlook that.

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Who do you hate that everyone else seems to love? (Original Post) milestogo Dec 2022 OP
You judge by "reports"? LakeArenal Dec 2022 #1
Yes, because I did not know him personally. milestogo Dec 2022 #2
I don't *hate* anybody (well, hardly anybody). Ocelot II Dec 2022 #3
Yep, that's another one. piddyprints Dec 2022 #5
Yanni piddyprints Dec 2022 #4
Ah, yes. Manheim Steamroller. Some people adored them. halfulglas Dec 2022 #8
Hate is a strong word AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2022 #6
Yet Paul loves John. emulatorloo Dec 2022 #10
I am not into hating... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #7
Similar attitude to you. Don't "hate," but do find some artists over rated. Nicks is one of them emulatorloo Dec 2022 #11
Heh... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #12
I never really hated Stevie although she was my least favorite of Mac singers AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2022 #19
I never liked... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #20
Haha. Stevie is my spirit animal. Seen her numerous times. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #13
I'll add... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #15
I think John had unresolved mental issues. He definitely worked on himself and I think he had found emulatorloo Dec 2022 #9
Yes, that's what I think too. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #14
It's possible to reside between adore and hate. Sneederbunk Dec 2022 #16
Peter Cetera of Chicago RainCaster Dec 2022 #17
Did you know that he replaced Joe Montegna in the band that became Chicsgo AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2022 #18
James Taylor. nocoincidences Dec 2022 #21
OMG milestogo Dec 2022 #24
Lots of folks do. nocoincidences Dec 2022 #33
That's how I feel about Prince. milestogo Dec 2022 #34
my standard answer Kali Dec 2022 #22
Definitely. I went to see them live not knowing a thing about them yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #35
I cannot stand Pearl Jam, don't like grunge in general, but especially PJ. Coventina Dec 2022 #23
All rap. And Barbara Streisand. cbabe Dec 2022 #25
Lots of us can't stand rap. milestogo Dec 2022 #27
Unintelligible lyrics shouted not sung to boring repetitive war drum beats. Someone is cbabe Dec 2022 #30
I don't like larwdem Dec 2022 #26
All things rap/dance and Top 40 music. Different Drummer Dec 2022 #28
Ina Garten. rsdsharp Dec 2022 #29
Game of Thrones nt XanaDUer2 Dec 2022 #31
Steve Miller Band. Archae Dec 2022 #32
I would not call it hate more like just don't care for ...but ...Elvis Presley yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #36

Ocelot II

(130,528 posts)
3. I don't *hate* anybody (well, hardly anybody).
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 11:46 AM
Dec 2022

But I think Andrea Bocelli is a crap singer even though a lot of people seem to think he's wonderful. He isn't. He sings flat. But I don't hate him; I just hate listening to him.

piddyprints

(15,107 posts)
5. Yep, that's another one.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 11:49 AM
Dec 2022

I don't like listening to him at all.

Sarah Brightman is another one. I just don't see or hear the appeal.

piddyprints

(15,107 posts)
4. Yanni
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 11:47 AM
Dec 2022

I call him Yawny.

Haven't heard of him for a while, but I remember when everyone around me just loved him.

Oh yeah, and then there's Manheim Steamroller. I knew my brother in law liked them. We were at a restaurant a few weeks ago and the college-aged server was telling us how a friend bought tickets and everyone else loved the concert. He was polite about it, but couldn't actually say he liked them.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
8. Ah, yes. Manheim Steamroller. Some people adored them.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:03 PM
Dec 2022

If you really like the big treatment of popular songs, patronize your local symphony orchestra when they do their pop or movie presentations. I loved when Baltimore Symphony Orchestra did the Star Wars, West Side Story or Raiders of the Lost Ark. There is nothing like having the big screen show the movie and surrounded by the real full orchestra sound track in person.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
6. Hate is a strong word
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:02 PM
Dec 2022

But I don’t get the love of the Ramones. I love literally every other major punk band, but something about the Ramones bugs me.
I agree about Lennon, I’ve always been more of a Paul guy.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
10. Yet Paul loves John.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:11 PM
Dec 2022

Lennon was definitely troubled as hell and could be an ass. I do think he worked hard on himself as he got older and found some redemption/peace before he was killed.

Big Paul guy here too!

I did like the Ramones, mostly because their songs are funny! It isn’t great art but there is a lot of humor in them at least to me.

2naSalit

(102,780 posts)
7. I am not into hating...
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:03 PM
Dec 2022

But regarding their artistic product is a strong like or dislike. Stevie Nicks. I don't like her voice and I can't understand more than three words in any song she sings, it sounds like someone tried to pretty-up the announcements in the station at Leichmere Center. I refrain from having any opinion on her personal life, I wasn't there and it has no affect on me.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
11. Similar attitude to you. Don't "hate," but do find some artists over rated. Nicks is one of them
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:14 PM
Dec 2022

Nicks does have some good songs, but a lot of them just sound the same. My wife goes so far as to claim Fleetwood Mac got “Totally Ruined” when Buckingham/Nicks joined.

2naSalit

(102,780 posts)
12. Heh...
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:23 PM
Dec 2022

I share your wife's opinion. They were great as a blues and even their transition albums were something I bought and I was not an album collector. I still have a couple of their older albums on tape. Welch and Greene were good songwriters and players, both McVies were there from the earliest, Christine finally joined when they needed her for a tour, she was a session player prior to that with them. She was far more talented and Nicks was a the deal-breaker for Buckingham's joining the band. I wish they had passed on him. Lindsey is very talented, too bad he has personality issues. But that's how it went, the rest is history.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
19. I never really hated Stevie although she was my least favorite of Mac singers
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:07 PM
Dec 2022

But then she had Buckingham fired for looking at her funny a couple years ago and that soured her for me.
She still has a ton of great songs with w Mac - Silver Springs is my favorite.

2naSalit

(102,780 posts)
20. I never liked...
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:28 PM
Dec 2022

Her voice and her songwriting style isn't my cup of tea. She's okay as a background vocalist but I don't care to hear ten minutes of whatever she's singing about, I can't tell what words are being sung. I don't get the appeal. I have seen the band in concert before and after B&N arrived and I was not favorably impressed.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
13. Haha. Stevie is my spirit animal. Seen her numerous times.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:24 PM
Dec 2022

But…. If you read her bio she doesn’t come out all that great. Kinda co-dependent. She does seem to have a caring heart.

Joe Walsh is “the one that got away” apparently.

For the record: Both of us switch the radio station on the Doors and I personally will not listen to Aerosmith. Jamie, please shoot me with that gun.

2naSalit

(102,780 posts)
15. I'll add...
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:30 PM
Dec 2022

Led Zepplin to the lung at the power button crowd. There is just some stuff I won't ruin my mood with by listening to it. My radio is a boombox so I just hit "play" on the cassette deck and change it to something I would rather hear!

Aerosmith was a kind of local band back in their early day in south central New England, many of us thought they were over the top with too much volume.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
9. I think John had unresolved mental issues. He definitely worked on himself and I think he had found
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:04 PM
Dec 2022

some redemption before he died.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
14. Yes, that's what I think too.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 12:26 PM
Dec 2022

I also think he was a genius. Sometimes geniuses are eclectic at best.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
18. Did you know that he replaced Joe Montegna in the band that became Chicsgo
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:03 PM
Dec 2022

I don’t know if Montegna was a good bassist, but he would’ve been better than “If You Leave Me Now.”

yellowdogintexas

(23,694 posts)
35. Definitely. I went to see them live not knowing a thing about them
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 06:47 PM
Dec 2022

it was a reason to get together with some DU folks I used to know from Dallas.and they were so excited to see them live. (at FW Symphony Concerts in the Garden)

I was totally underwhelmed.

cbabe

(6,646 posts)
30. Unintelligible lyrics shouted not sung to boring repetitive war drum beats. Someone is
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 03:36 PM
Dec 2022

making bank corrupting kids brains/hearts/souls.

As Trevor Noah commented about videos/internet (paraphrase): it’s designed to make you angry (and keep you powerless).

Different Drummer

(9,083 posts)
28. All things rap/dance and Top 40 music.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 03:19 PM
Dec 2022

My feelings are somewhat influenced by events in the Atlanta metro area where I live. We used to have only one active rock station that was under Clear Channel/iHeart ownership. About ten years ago without warning, Clear Channel/iHeart flipped the format from active rock to Top 40. There were a lot of protests from people who liked the old format, but those fell on deaf ears and the station remains Top 40 to this day.

For those not familiar with the term "active rock", this link explains it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_rock

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
29. Ina Garten.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 03:32 PM
Dec 2022

I like her food, but that fucking fake laugh makes me grind my teeth. Ahahaha!

And Jeffrey is the doughiest SOB I’ve ever seen.

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
32. Steve Miller Band.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 04:06 PM
Dec 2022

Some people brag about what "musical genius" they had.

I say they always did suck.

Boring lyrics, lyrics that made no sense, bland music, and some songs that were simply asinine. (Like "Rockin' Me Baby.&quot

yellowdogintexas

(23,694 posts)
36. I would not call it hate more like just don't care for ...but ...Elvis Presley
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 06:51 PM
Dec 2022

I was around 9 when he was first getting popular so I grew up with Elvis so to speak.

I just couldn't get there. I wouldn't change the station or anything, but was totally indifferent.

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