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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsUpdate on my gato Jean Luc
Good news, he's back from the vet, and hence still alive.
As was postulated yesterday, he has a bad middle/inner ear infection (in at least one ear).
The ER vet cleaned them out yesterday and gave me ear wash and antibiotics to take home (which they used each once on him while he was there).
Bad news is, this morning he's even worse than he was yesterday, still can barely walk w/o falling over, hasn't eaten in a day and a half now, hasn't drank (that I've seen), and poor thing can't keep his eyes closed, think it makes him dizzy, as soon he seems to fall asleep he pops back up, so I imagine he's also pretty friggin tired.
And he hates the ear drops and esp. the antibiotics. I'm gonna go get some tuna this AM, maybe that'll entice him to get some food and moisture in him, but if he won't even touch that I'm gonna call the vet again this afternoon.
Gonna be a stressful day I think.
Thanks again for all the good wishes yesterday, y'all are the best ... s'why I'm here all the time
EDIT: as mentioned in Post #17 below he ate a little canned tuna and lapped up every drop of tuna juice that was in it, so that's good news!
Pic back in healthier days

catbyte
(39,209 posts)It will be hard slogging but you and Jean Luc will get through it. Hang in there and I'm so glad it was something treatable.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)That's the part that's freaking me out a bit, esp. the not drinking. Cats are built to go w/o food for awhile but not water.
catbyte
(39,209 posts)might have to take him in so the vet can give him some sub-q fluids to get him over the hump.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Great news, I put about 3 tablespoons of chunk canned tuna in a bowl and he went right for it. Probably ate about 1/2 the meat, and lapped up every drop of the tuna juice.
So it's the first actual promising sign so far, apart from the fact that he's been mostly hanging out with me in my office in his usual spots, and only hid under the bed for 15 or mins this AM since I woke up 3 hrs ago.
Also he purrs away when I hold him (as he always does) so that can't be bad.
Polly Hennessey
(8,886 posts)calimary
(90,316 posts)Sounds like kittys on the mend.
Our three cats are sending healing vibes his way, and their two humans are doing likewise!
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)MLAA
(19,772 posts)Diamond_Dog
(40,777 posts)I didnt see your post yesterday about Jean Luc. Im so sorry
Poor baby! Aarrgghh its so tough to see our beloved fur babies so ill and acting strangely.
I hope those antibiotics and your TLC get him back on his paws in no time.
Sending massive amounts of healing vibes your way. Please do keep us posted.
Walleye
(45,093 posts)Very best of luck. Kitties are important.
SheltieLover
(81,228 posts)And glad you are doing your best for him!
I hope the abxs kick in quickly & he is back to normal soon!
Healing vibes still flowing to him!
💓💓💓
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Just stumbling around like total drunks, falling over randomly, cannot even manage a 1 foot jump up onto something without missing wildly, and they don't want to eat or drink ... it's pretty stressful actually.
brer cat
(27,625 posts)When the room is spinning around, it is no wonder they can't jump accurately or want to eat/drink. I hope he feels better soon!
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)See that pic in the OP of him?
He's spending a really weird amount of time in that position the past couple days, just 1/2 standing, in that position, barely moving for like 10-15 minutes, like he's trying to gather his balance or something.
He DID just manage about a 2' jump just now onto my giant subwoofer by the window (and the sun), where he normally rests all day, soaking up the sun (and the tunes I'm always rocking). But he's not laying down like normal, he's in that same position, 5 mins later. I know he wants to crash, but he just doesn't seem comfortable laying down, and when he does, his head is up and his eyes are open. It's kinda distressing to watch I gotta say.
brer cat
(27,625 posts)NJCher
(43,292 posts)Shes fine now although once in a while she gets a little wobbly. I have to think through this a little bit to see if theres anything pertinent to relate. Its been a few years, and it takes a little time to recall it and for me to remember all this stuff. Might be back later.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
CurtEastPoint
(20,057 posts)highplainsdem
(62,609 posts)this:
https://www.gerber.com/chicken-and-gravy
My cats always loved it. Put a bit on a saucer and if he isn't tempted, try feeding it from your fingertips. That will usually work.
The jar has to be kept refrigerated, of course, but small amounts will warm quickly, especially if finger fed to him.
Editing to add that softboiled eggs, mashed up, may also tempt him, and they're very healthy, but messier for finger feeding.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)See my post #17.
MontanaMama
(24,734 posts)and that he shows some signs of improvement. Jean Luc is a beauty.
Another thought that I had
is there any chance he could have a tick anywhere on him or have bitten by a tick? When you described his wobbly walking and falling over, its the first thing I thought of. Its common in cats and happens to dogs too. Obviously not likely if Jean is an indoor cat.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)He IS a damn handsome cat. Personally I'd never 'buy a purebred kitten' like my aunt did, iirc he was like a $2000 cat, 13 years ago.
At same time she'd also fed about 10 ferals that lived outside over JL's (and her) lifetime, and let a couple of them inside as well to live, so it's not like she was a cat-snob, this one expensive cat was her treat for herself.
When she passed, I became the lucky owner.
And I can barely explain how sweet this friggin cat is. I've been round LOTS of cats, and maybe it's cause my aunt raised him (a super sweet, super liberal lady) but I'm hear to tell ... this is the nicest, cutest, snuggliest cat I've ever known, absolute love bug, he literally does NONE of the stuff that people consider 'asshole' behavior from a cat.
I feel like a bad cat dad right now, and I gotta get him better!
highplainsdem
(62,609 posts)time, rather than toward the back of his throat.
Donkees
(33,734 posts)just small amounts more frequently if he has nausea. You might have to carry him more the next few days to help lower his stress. Read the side-effects info on the med he was prescribed, how it affects appetite, etc.
One of these types for cats:

Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)See post #17, I have since got him to eat a bit of canned tuna, and he lapped up every drop of the tuna liquid.
Donkees
(33,734 posts)iscooterliberally
(3,159 posts)Have you tried an antibiotic shot for your cat? It's a bit expensive, but they work really well. The huge plus side is that you don't have to give your cat those pills. We have several cats and they're all in door and out door. One of ours got beat up pretty badly by a feral tom cat. We opted for the shot instead of the pills and it was well worth the extra expense. It sure made life easier for both us and our cat. Again, I hope that Jean Luc has a speedy recovery!
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Would've paid the extra money in a heartbeat. Doctor specifically said he needs the oral one twice a day. I gather they think this infection is pretty bad, and the shot, while 'good' ... is not good enough for his case, need the 2X equal dosing for 10 days.
He sure friggin hates it though. In the evenings Mandy will be here to help (and he freaking loves her, even more than me), but alone here this AM, it was a challenge. Need to perfect my towel wrapping technique. It's funny he's normally a very docile, chill AF cat, but he does NOT like oral meds being forced on him. And he's about 10lbs of pretty much solid muscle. If he gets real pissed? He can definitely f*** me up.
iscooterliberally
(3,159 posts)When I do have to give them pills, which is extremely rarely, I have my wife come in and help with the task. It sounds like you have this covered and Jean Luc is in great hands!
CousinIT
(12,624 posts)a bolus of fluids under his skin to help keep him hydrated and maybe some tuna will entice him. You might also try some Nutri-Cal: https://www.amazon.com/Tomlyn-High-Calorie-Nutritional-Nutri-Cal/dp/B000FO3R6K - it's sort of malty smelling and most cats find it irresistable. It's made for sick kitties - to get some calories, nutrition and fat into them when they're not eating well.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Thanks, and see my post #17.
CousinIT
(12,624 posts)I know you're relieved!
Fla Dem
(27,685 posts)but sorry he's still feeling the effects of the infection. I KNOW how stressful this can be. Unlike children you can't talk to him and explain why he feels so loopy.
Best wishes the antibiotic starts having an effect soon and JL will be back to his old self again and YOU can breathe easier.
My girl sends her love and support to Jean Luc.
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Laffy Kat
(16,959 posts)At least it's something treatable. Hang in there.
Sanity Claws
(22,419 posts)If he refuses to eat, the vet can prescribe that.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)I have gotten him to eat a bit of tuna (and lap up the tuna juice) at this point so he's not outright refusing to eat, just not his regular wet food (yet).
I'll def consider asking the vet about it though if he hasn't got at least a few tablespoons of food in him by the later afternoon.
Sanity Claws
(22,419 posts)Cerenia also has anti-inflammatory effects. I have to give it one of my cats every 2-3 days. She had pancreatitis and the Cerenia helps prevent flare-ups.
Mousetoescamper
(6,819 posts)3catwoman3
(29,580 posts)
labyrinthitis I had several years ago, then he feels completely awful. When it hit, I at first thought I was having the head rush you feel if you get out of bed too fast, but when it turned out I had to crawl to the bathroom because I couldnt stand up or walk it was obvious that much more was going on. My eyes wouldnt track together, and it was like looking thru a kaleidoscope on overdrive. No appetite because of the nausea and vomiting. I had to take prednisone for a week to get things to calm down.
I sympathize and so hope he feels better really soon.
The above suggestions for subcutaneous fluids if an excellent idea. It called hypodermoclysis, or just clysis. Easy procedure for the vet, and generally well tolerated by the critters.
sinkingfeeling
(57,866 posts)cats and dogs. Don't worry too much about not eating. My dog, years ago, went 7 days without eating when he had ear infection.
frogmarch
(12,256 posts)I had an ear infection that did that to me. I was on an antibiotic, but I couldn't get my balance and everything went around and around. I couldn't stand up, couldn't walk, and I couldn't stop vomiting. At the ER I was given a Meclizine IV and it fixed me up right away. Now I keep Meclizine on hand. You can buy it over the counter. It's great for treating positional vertigo too.
I wonder if your vet could prescribe Meclizine for your dear kitty.
Emile
(42,621 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)More expensive of a kitten than I could afford (or at least justify ... I inherited him actually) but man ... he's like a perfect cat specimen in every way. And his personality is even better. Only had him just over 1 year, but I love this boy to the moon and back
republianmushroom
(22,435 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,810 posts)Because we just can't ask what they need
Maybe this will put a healing vibe out for him, and soon he'll be doing every kitty's favorite window activity
calimary
(90,316 posts)or for Star Trek: Next Generations Captain Jean Luc Picard.
Whatever the case, heres wishing you both will live long and prosper!
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)And also a diehard quilter.
She used to vacation in the South of France at resorts specializing in quilting activities every year or so.
Anyways, my mom is pretty sure that JL was named after hot, young French tour guide my aunt had a little crush on
I'd not be shocked if he was actually named after Picard and my mom just didn't know it, however. My aunt was a big TV fan and I'd imagine would've liked TNG ... and Picard.
To me ... he's The Captain
calimary
(90,316 posts)
and a damn sexy man.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Measure_Of_A_Man_(episode)
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)I'd think Patrick Stewart/Picard ... is pretty desirable
As a (mostly) straight guy ... I just think he's a badass, and great actor
niyad
(133,115 posts)recovery and healing.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)CaptainTruth
(8,230 posts)Last year we went through that ear infection routine with one of our cats (a black one I named Gatto Nero in a nod to my Italian wife). He hated the drops but it cleared up & he's been his normal lazy self ever since.
Best of luck!!!
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Like:
1) not wanting to eat/drink
2) walks like a drunken sailor, randomly falling over once in a while
3) can't jump up onto higher surfaces very well unless they're real low
4) doesn't seem to be able to get comfortable in their spots they usually lay and sleep, instead they kinda wander around and sit in various places, practically frozen, front arms kinda splayed, looking forlorn and strangely wide-eyed?
CaptainTruth
(8,230 posts)He never stopped eating or drinking but he definitely consumed less, maybe half of normal.
His balance was off a bit, like the infection put pressure on the inner ear, which throws off equilibrium.
He absolutely couldn't jump on high surfaces like our kitchen counters or bathroom vanities, which he normally does all the time, I mean ALL the time. When I brush my teeth he has to be on the vanity with me, in my way (he thinks he's "helping"
. When it was bad he couldn't even jump onto our bed which is quite a bit lower than the countertops. A couple times he tried & just fell backwards onto the floor, it was sad to see.
And yes, he's normally a cat who is comfortable anywhere, but when he had the infection we could tell it bothered him, it was like he was trying different places/positions to make it feel better, but of course none of it worked.
Our situation ended up being a bit more than just an infection. When we took him to the vet the first time it was obvious his ear was infected so we got the usual drops. We used up all the drops (6-8 weeks I think) & it was only a little better, so we took him back to the vet. On the second visit she did a more thorough exam & discovered he had a polyp in his ear canal that was blocking it & the infection was deeper in the ear, behind the polyp, which was why the drops didn't work. So, he had to be scheduled for surgery to remove the polyp, & at that point she was able to completely clean out his ear & she applied a salve of some sort (I may have the name, if you want it) that stays in the ear canal for a while, no drops needed, & that did it, the infection was gone.
And, after being tested at a lab, the polyp was benign, not cancerous, so big sigh of relief there.
I still remember watching him recover, & how thrilled we were the first time he jumped up on the kitchen counter like there was nothing to it. He was back to his old self 3-4 weeks after surgery & finally getting rid of the infection.
My wife & I & our 3 children (all feline) are wishing you & your gato the best!!!
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)On the floor head down eyes closed. Hadn't seen that yesterday or this AM. It was like he was meth or something, bug-eyed, moving around all the time.
He finally chilled. Food and Water are important, but so is sleep. Esp. for a cat!
TuxedoKat
(3,843 posts)I add a little water to the tuna juice to get more water in them. The water/tuna juice can stimulate their appetite. Good news he's eating and drinking though.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)liberalla
(11,148 posts)(when I adopted him at 4 yrs old) including abscesses and one they called a "complex abscess". More serious and more expensive. Anyway, they gave him an injectible antibiotic that lasted either a week or 10 days, so we didn't have to struggle with oral medication.
It was WONDERFUL.
I just wonder if that may be helpful for JL? Just an idea...
We are sending our best "get strong and healthy" vibes to your boy.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)"No, this infection is such that he needs the 2X daily oral antibiotics".
I've gotten that shot for my previous cat, but it seems like this infection is particularly bad/deep in the ear, such that she's worried the time-release shot won't be strong enough.
Thanks for the good vibes, too
3catwoman3
(29,580 posts)
doses. That keeps a steady level of the medication in the bloodstream, which is important for infection fighting. Some docs (human and vet) routinely write twice a day when they should specify every 12 hours. I always wrote antibiotic prescriptions that way, and made sure to explain it to the parents of my patients.
If, for example, an antibiotic is given at 10 AM and 6 PM, the evening dose will be out of your system by 6 AM, and then you have 4 hours uncovered until the next 10 AM dose.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)3catwoman3
(29,580 posts)
their stuff.
One of my many frustrations with the electronic medical record system used by my former employers was that the prescribing section had no point-and-click option for every 12 hour meds - only BID (pharmacy talk for twice a day). Id always have to type in the every 12 hours myself, which wasnt very efficient, especially seeing as the most common prescription in pediatrics is amoxicillin for ear infections, which is always every 12 hours.
electric_blue68
(26,985 posts)seems good to lower his stress levels, and in turn helps his immune system.
Good luck to you & Jean Luc
IcyPeas
(25,602 posts)there a few methods similar to this:
ProfessorGAC
(76,977 posts)We had kibbies with infections, too. Meds did quick work and they all turned out OK.
Hang in there. Jean-Luc, too.
femmedem
(8,562 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 19, 2022, 05:33 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm hoping the antibiotics are starting to have an effect and that he improved over the weekend.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)7 doses of Clavamox and 6 of the ear drops with Baytril in them. Still stumbling around, barely eating/drinking.
Going to his regular vet at 3pm.
femmedem
(8,562 posts)And poor you. You must be so worried.
I hope the news from the vet is reassuring.
I had a rabbit with an inner ear infection that caused head tilt and other symptoms similar to your cat's. Two different vets advised me to put him down, but I felt that he still had a will to live. He was so unable to tell up from down that I had to syringe feed him or he would have drowned or starved. He made a decent recovery, though--his head remained quite tilted, but his balance returned to normal. He lived another three or four years with no pain and no reoccurrence. He finally died when he was eleven or twelve--ancient for a little house rabbit.