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Throck

(2,520 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 08:41 AM Jan 2023

Gas Stoves Could Be Banned in New York State Read More: Gas Stoves Could Be Banned in New York Stat

https://wrrv.com/gas-stoves-could-be-banned-in-new-york-state/

Who'd of thought gas stoves were so dangerous? All my aunts and uncles died in their 80s with gas stoves in their houses. Dozens of cousins alive and well. Second and third cousins a whole army of them, gas stoves.

Last power outage we were making coffee and soup. Cooking eggs in the morning.

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Gas Stoves Could Be Banned in New York State Read More: Gas Stoves Could Be Banned in New York Stat (Original Post) Throck Jan 2023 OP
IF that were the case, I would be a criminal. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2023 #1
Induction for me, thanks. Meadowoak Jan 2023 #2
I'm sorry, the idea that the entire homebuilding industry would... brush Jan 2023 #3
They are bad for the environment and now children jimfields33 Jan 2023 #4
Chef choice will always be gas heat... FarPoint Jan 2023 #5
They will have to figure out something else. jimfields33 Jan 2023 #6
Who pays for the conversion? (n/t) PJMcK Jan 2023 #13
Many chefs now prefer induction cooking. Meadowoak Jan 2023 #8
True but in home .... FarPoint Jan 2023 #10
I bought an induction range a few months ago, it was about $1100. Meadowoak Jan 2023 #12
Not commercial grade FarPoint Jan 2023 #14
I've been blissfully unaware intrepidity Jan 2023 #7
Fuck gas. Coal is the only way to go. hunter Jan 2023 #9
This sounds like a really long-term issue PJMcK Jan 2023 #11
This is some of the same reasoning to hate electric cars and the new light bulbs. jimfields33 Jan 2023 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Jan 2023 #17
Possibly banned in new buildings Blues Heron Jan 2023 #16
government will have to pry my gas stove FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #18

brush

(53,778 posts)
3. I'm sorry, the idea that the entire homebuilding industry would...
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 08:56 AM
Jan 2023

risk their licenses and business by installing gas stoves and not venting them to local/state construction building codes is not believable.

Come on, really, people? If that was the case we would've had a housing crisis and loss of jobs that would make the 2009 one look like child's play.

jimfields33

(15,807 posts)
6. They will have to figure out something else.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 09:15 AM
Jan 2023

It’s too bad for them, but everyone will have to sacrifice.

Meadowoak

(5,546 posts)
12. I bought an induction range a few months ago, it was about $1100.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 10:09 AM
Jan 2023

I absolutely love it. saves a lot of energy. It is as responsive as gas but much cleaner, also the stove top never gets hot.

intrepidity

(7,302 posts)
7. I've been blissfully unaware
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 09:24 AM
Jan 2023
https://gizmodo.com/us-considers-ban-gas-stoves-health-risks-1849966453

The push for safer stoves dovetails with a larger movement to ban natural gas hookups in buildings altogether—a movement that has picked up a surprising amount of steam. In 2019, Berkeley, California became the first city in the world to ban gas hookups in new buildings; less than four years later, dozens of cities have followed suit, including New York, whose ban, passed in late 2021, will go into effect for smaller buildings this year. In September, California became the first state to implement a phaseout of natural gas space and water heaters.

Unsurprisingly, the natural gas industry has been fighting these developments tooth and nail. In 2021, emails obtained by E&E News showed that the industry had been running a coordinated effort to support legislators in Republican states putting forward laws that would prohibit cities and towns from banning natural gas; 20 states, which make up about one-third of the U.S.’s total natural gas use, have passed bans-on-bans since 2020.


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However, I think I must disagree with this part:

Gas stoves seem to have been selected as a special battleground for fossil fuel boosters, with industry interests pitching gas stoves as somehow superior. The industry has gone so far as to recruit Instagram influencers to wax poetic about their stoves, while environmental groups have accused gas interests of being behind restaurant industry challenges to local gas bans.

“There is this misconception that if you want to do fine-dining kind of cooking it has to be done on gas,” Trumka told Bloomberg. “It’s a carefully manicured myth.”

Not in the restaurant biz, but I've lived with both gas and electric stoves, and for cooking, I prefer gas, hands down. Based on personal experience, not any kind of "influence" from anywhere.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
11. This sounds like a really long-term issue
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 10:08 AM
Jan 2023

I’ve had a home in NYC for 45 years. Every apartment had a gas range. Are they all going to have to be replaced? Who pays for the new appliances? The consumer? The landlords? New stoves cost just south of $1,000 and quickly head north. Will the government subsidize gas range replacements?

We also have a home in the mountains. We have a 500-gallon propane tank for heating and cooking. Almost all of the homes have gas stoves, (you can see their tanks in their yards). I bought a new gas range about a year ago that cost more than $2,000. Am I supposed to junk it and buy a new electric range? Ridiculous. Also, electricity costs there are very high. By the way, because of the Catskill Mountains, solar power is not an option.

If this proposal is about new construction, it’s going to take many decades to replace all of those gas ranges in existing homes.

The article doesn’t provide much information other than the alarmist headline. Let’s see some details.

Meanwhile, nearly every professional chef prefers a gas stove. Will restaurants be exempt?

This proposal sounds fanciful at best.

jimfields33

(15,807 posts)
15. This is some of the same reasoning to hate electric cars and the new light bulbs.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 10:32 AM
Jan 2023

Everyone will survive. I forgot to mention the lives saved from carbon monoxide poisoning. That is a huge problem with gas stoves.

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