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Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 04:09 PM Mar 2023

Update on my brother's ER visit

The are keeping him until tomorrow morning so they can do an MRI. Probably a '23 hour hold' rather than an admission. They said if he stays, the MRI can be done first thing in the morning. If they discharge him, getting an appointment via a referral from his health care provider could take weeks or even months. They checked for a stroke and can find no evidence. His retinas are fine. He said it's like an occasional strobe light flashing in his peripheral vision. He sounds worried.

So I told him to call, any time, if he needs to talk. Meanwhile, enjoy that stellar hospital food.

I feel a little better but there's still that nugget of fear wrapped in anxiety. His birthday is in 5 days and he asked if I could make roast beef with Yorkshire pudding. That is most definitely going to happen.

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Update on my brother's ER visit (Original Post) Siwsan Mar 2023 OP
Poor guy. i can't imagine his anxiety. Not Heidi Mar 2023 #1
Thanks for the update!!! RKP5637 Mar 2023 #2
Sounds like an occular migraine, Siwsan SheltieLover Mar 2023 #3
I get those sometimes. Mosby Mar 2023 #12
The eye docs I've seen have said no big deal too SheltieLover Mar 2023 #15
Almost the same here... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #20
What's IB? SheltieLover Mar 2023 #32
I don't think I could describe them... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #38
Thx! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #39
They will do the MRI between midnight and 2am Siwsan Mar 2023 #25
Yw! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #31
He just texted that they moved up the scan Siwsan Mar 2023 #33
Will he come to stay with you when he gets out? SheltieLover Mar 2023 #34
He's probably just going to drive home Siwsan Mar 2023 #36
Glad to hear this! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #37
Thanks for updating us mvd Mar 2023 #4
I've had that. Sogo Mar 2023 #5
Thanks for updating us Siwsan. You are a very kind and loving sister. I hope your brother is okay. debm55 Mar 2023 #6
Sending you and your brother all the good I can. MontanaMama Mar 2023 #7
Actually, when I was in the hospital last year, the food was fine. Nothing like spooky3 Mar 2023 #8
Hospitals are learning that good food is an Mr.Bill Mar 2023 #10
Good point. And I love eggs Benedict too. Nt spooky3 Mar 2023 #11
I have those too. Goddessartist Mar 2023 #9
That sounds a lot like my sister's eye issue. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2023 #13
I think we should consider this good news, Siwsan, slightlv Mar 2023 #14
I'm glad that you have so many good friends here. I always read 1WorldHope Mar 2023 #16
Thanks for the update. murielm99 Mar 2023 #17
I have no medical knowledge but this sounds good. The MRI should disclose any issues. I am LoisB Mar 2023 #18
Thanks for the update. Best wishes Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #19
Best wishes for a full recovery nightwing1240 Mar 2023 #21
I had same symptoms frogstar0 Mar 2023 #22
Sounds like he's at risk for retinal detachment Warpy Mar 2023 #23
Might be migraines Marthe48 Mar 2023 #24
Yes, it sounds like migraine to me nuxvomica Mar 2023 #30
My husband didn't have migraines when he was young Marthe48 Mar 2023 #35
Has he been looked at by the ophthalmologist yet? KPN Mar 2023 #26
His retina is fine. Siwsan Mar 2023 #27
That sounds Rebl2 Mar 2023 #28
speedy recovery The Facts First Mar 2023 #29

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
3. Sounds like an occular migraine, Siwsan
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 04:17 PM
Mar 2023

Mine are caused by pinched nerves in neck & upper back.

1st time I lost vision in my right eye, it scared the hell out of me.

And the little fllashing lights in peripheral vision is like a warning for me ghat I need to stop (doing dishes, cleaning, chopping veggies, etc.) And get flat in bed. That prevents it from getting worse.

Along with the flashing lights, I also feel very slight nausea. Never enough to get physically sick, very slight.

So maybe this is just a wake up call for your dear brother to be more attuned to what his body is trying to tell him.

Best prevention for me is osteopathic manipulations but, alas, there are none of them in this region.

Did they give him a dx?

So glad to hear he's going to be observed & have an MRI to be safe!

And glad you're staying off the dangerous roads.

Mosby

(16,377 posts)
12. I get those sometimes.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 05:19 PM
Mar 2023

It's like a twinkling area right in the middle of my vision, and over 10-20 minutes it spreads into a c-shape. Afterwords I get a slight headache. I went to my eye doctor about them. No big deal, and he didn't suggest any type of tx. I think they are sometimes triggered when I go from a low light space to bright light outdoors.

2naSalit

(86,822 posts)
20. Almost the same here...
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 06:02 PM
Mar 2023

Last edited Fri Mar 10, 2023, 08:55 PM - Edit history (1)

I have them all the time and have floaty blobs on occasion but I think those are from too much screen time.

Laying on my bed isn't my remedy though I have several stretches that I do and if it's really miserable, I take a small dose of IB. I have managed to get to where I only use IB a couple times a year now, it used to be part of my diet.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
32. What's IB?
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 07:48 PM
Mar 2023

This started for me when I was finishing grad school, doing an assistantship, caring for elderly parents over an hour away, & babysitting grandson.

Too much time looking down at screens & reading I think.

What kind of stretches? (It's not like there is any quality medical care here, so I learn what I can online. 😓 )

Do you have a blue light filter on your device? It's much easier on the eyes.

Thx for sharing!

2naSalit

(86,822 posts)
38. I don't think I could describe them...
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 08:59 PM
Mar 2023

But They are things I've learned in physical therapy. When I was going to those sessions, one of the techs would print out pages from the link below.
There are numerous exercises described in detail.

https://www.hep2go.com/

IB is Ibuprofen.

Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
25. They will do the MRI between midnight and 2am
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 06:42 PM
Mar 2023

Not sure how long he will have to stay once that is completed.

And he's had Occular migraines in the past. This just seemed different from what he has experienced.

Thanks for sharing that info!!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
31. Yw!
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 07:43 PM
Mar 2023

Ah, well this is likely just part of it then.

Continuing to send healing vibes for both of you. 💓💓💓

Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
33. He just texted that they moved up the scan
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 08:05 PM
Mar 2023

He's probably going through it, right now. I have no idea how long they take, or how long before they deliver the results so I'm keeping the phone right next to me.

Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
36. He's probably just going to drive home
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 08:12 PM
Mar 2023

Of course, I have no idea what an MRI involves.

His vision has been fine, except for those flashes. If he should feel like he doesn't want to drive, my niece and her husband live close to the hospital - actually right about mid way between the hospital and where he lives. They could drive him and his car either to their house, or his.

I have always had dreadful night vision so I do night driving on an emergency basis, only.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
37. Glad to hear this!
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 08:19 PM
Mar 2023

I don't drive at night either, risk of violent crime & damaging car on these horrid roads is too great!

Far as I know an MRI is similar to an x-ray, unless he's claustrophobic, for which they'd rx a small valium or some other benzo.

I hope you're feeling better.

mvd

(65,180 posts)
4. Thanks for updating us
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 04:20 PM
Mar 2023

K&R

Wishing him well and hoping for the best. He’ll enjoy that delicious meal.

Sogo

(4,997 posts)
5. I've had that.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 04:21 PM
Mar 2023

He needs to see an ophthalmologist. Possible tear in the retina due to liquification of viscosity of matter behind eyes. Natural part of aging but can be serious because of possible tear of retina when the matter pulls away as it is becoming liquid.

MontanaMama

(23,344 posts)
7. Sending you and your brother all the good I can.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 04:57 PM
Mar 2023

You're a wonderful sister. I hope your brother gets an accurate diagnosis and will make a full recovery as soon as possible.

spooky3

(34,484 posts)
8. Actually, when I was in the hospital last year, the food was fine. Nothing like
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 04:59 PM
Mar 2023

Your roast beef and Yorkshire pudding, I’m sure, but not nearly as bad as I thought it would be.

Good on ya for caring for your brother.

Mr.Bill

(24,334 posts)
10. Hospitals are learning that good food is an
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 05:06 PM
Mar 2023

important component of healing. Our small hospital has pretty good food. You get to order from a menu anytime throughout the day. If your doctor approves, you can even have an acoholic beverage with your food. When I volunteered there all volunteers ate free at the cafeteria. I worked on Mondays and they always has eggs benedict on that day. I always looked forward to that.

Goddessartist

(1,882 posts)
9. I have those too.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 05:01 PM
Mar 2023

Both eyes. Severe myopia since childhood. My retinas are fine too. Big hugs to both of you.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,062 posts)
13. That sounds a lot like my sister's eye issue.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 05:21 PM
Mar 2023

About a year ago she started getting flashing lights in one of her eyes -- nonstop. The lights were in the upper left corner of her right eye. Her regular ophthalmologist couldn't find anything wrong so he sent her to a retinal specialist who didn't seem concerned about the flashing lights, but did find some other odd things wrong that were caused by her extreme nearsightedness that necessitated her having to get a shot in that eye at regular intervals. The flashing lights finally stopped after several months and she's gone from getting the shot from every 6 weeks to every 3 months. (The shot doesn't hurt, her eye is anesthetized first.)

So I have everything crossed for your brother (and you)! BTW, my sister gets ocular migraines (so do I) occasionally, and the flashing lights she was seeing were quite different from those.

slightlv

(2,845 posts)
14. I think we should consider this good news, Siwsan,
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 05:25 PM
Mar 2023

and still keep you and your brother in our energies, thoughts and prayers. I'm so glad they ruled out any kind of stroke. That's what flashed through my mind at first.

Has Madoc settled down now? Poor baby. When Mama's upset, no one's happy! Holding you in our thoughts here...

1WorldHope

(696 posts)
16. I'm glad that you have so many good friends here. I always read
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 05:38 PM
Mar 2023

what you have to say because you are so very genuine. I love your kitties! I think you can sit back and relax tonight. Relax or worry, time will pass either way and we will not have changed the outcome by worrying. Listen to some John Prine, he always makes me feel better. ☺️

LoisB

(7,234 posts)
18. I have no medical knowledge but this sounds good. The MRI should disclose any issues. I am
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 05:51 PM
Mar 2023

sure he's anxious but let him know we DUers are sending him positive vibes.

frogstar0

(47 posts)
22. I had same symptoms
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 06:13 PM
Mar 2023

I had same symptoms
I had same issue after working in a very white walls with no curtains and bright sunshine. Doing wall board work.

Had the flashes and, some floaters(like threads) at edge of view. Flashes went away by next day, and floaters after a couple days.
I did not seek any medical attention.

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
23. Sounds like he's at risk for retinal detachment
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 06:15 PM
Mar 2023

but there is nothing much they can do until it happens.

If it makes you feel any better, I've had the flashing lights and floaters for 50 years with no detachment. It's something he's going to have to be aware of, though. If he ever experiences something like a curtain being drawn across his visual field, that's a detachment, friends have had them. That's an absolute medical emergency and he needs to go to an ER fast. The sooner he can be scheduled for surgery following detachment, the better.

It sounds scary as hell, but it can be treated.

nuxvomica

(12,449 posts)
30. Yes, it sounds like migraine to me
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 07:15 PM
Mar 2023

I've had them since grade school and they can produce a variety of symptoms. While I usually have the strobing aura followed by a headache, I've also sometimes had temporary tunnel vision or brief light dimming. But I know when it's a migraine because a headache usually follows and they always occur after a period of stress in which I felt powerless but once the situation is resolved and I feel relief, I get a migraine within 24 hours. After my light-dimming episode, I was sent for coronary and carotid ultrasounds and the tech told me unofficially that I was clean as a whistle and I told her that I bet I would have a migraine the next day because I was so relieved. The following day I had the light dimming again, followed by a headache.

Marthe48

(17,042 posts)
35. My husband didn't have migraines when he was young
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 08:11 PM
Mar 2023

but he started getting silent migraines when he was older. Mostly affected his vision, no pain. I used to get them like you describe. When they were coming on, what I could see looked like shade under tree leaves-dappled, gray. And when I was young, headaches and nausea. I haven't had one like that for a long time, tG!

But even if migraines are crappy, if Siswan's brother is diagnosed with migraine, rather than some of the other problems, it might be a relief

KPN

(15,662 posts)
26. Has he been looked at by the ophthalmologist yet?
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 06:51 PM
Mar 2023

Sounds exactly like a retina tear I experienced about 9 years ago. The flashing strobe on perimeter, big floater (which I learned was actually blood in the vitrious fluid from the tear), and vision just generally seeming off or weird. My tear progressed to partial detached retina so there was a blind area in the vision of my left eye but I wasn’t aware of it until they did some tests on me because my right eye still had vision that covered that area of my overall peripheral vision — but it definitely seemed like something was weird with my vision.

Some reassurance for you: if it is a retina tear or partial detachment: it was about 99.5% fixable. It seemed scary at the time, but in retrospect, it wasn’t a really bad health issue. My sight was fine within a few weeks. Retina tears and detachments are a lot more common than I had known. The science in dealing with them is pretty well developed.

So hopefully, that’s what it is at its worst. If it just a minor tear, the fix is even easier. The key to 100% cure is follow the drs advice 100% as far as physical exertion goes. I cheated a bit with the tear and it re-tore became a partial detachment.

Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
27. His retina is fine.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 06:53 PM
Mar 2023

They also checked for a stroke but he's good there, too. He will have an MRI between midnight and 2 so hopefully he will be calling me with the findings, early tomorrow morning.

Rebl2

(13,571 posts)
28. That sounds
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 07:08 PM
Mar 2023

like vitreous gel in eye pulling away. Had the same flashing light in peripheral vision off and on. It went on for several months and the flashing was much more bothersome in the dark. Of course it happened on a Sunday. Called my eye doctor anyway and he told me don’t do anything strenuous the rest of the day and he saw me the next day. He sent me to retina specialist the same day and they diagnosed what was going on.

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