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A couple from my state:
Sault Ste. Marie and Mackinac
Meadowoak
(5,555 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,311 posts)We moved to what is now Silicon Valley in 1961 when I was eight. All the kids made fun of my accent, and I worked hard to lose it quickly. To this day, if I go to Baltimore, I have the accent back within 30 minutes of getting off the plane.
Dale in Laurel MD
(698 posts)Then there's Casa Grande, AZ, pronounced approximately "Cassgrand."
Not Heidi
(1,290 posts)On a freeway into Baltimore (damned if I can remember which one - 8??) someone pasted a huge HON at the end of the greeting that said "WELCOME TO BALTIMORE."
I like Baltimore - the parts I've been to, anyway. Oriole Park, the Inner Harbor, and Café Hon.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)ironflange
(7,781 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,653 posts)Silhouette of an assault rifle with caption, OreGUNian
we can do it
(12,190 posts)Walleye
(31,032 posts)we can do it
(12,190 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,655 posts)GPV
(72,381 posts)I hardly even know her
spooky3
(34,462 posts)Dave in VA
(2,038 posts)We don't drink,
We don't smoke,
we're from NAW FUCK!
Mister Ed
(5,941 posts)Melbin, Australia. ( a.k.a. "Melbourne" )
bucolic_frolic
(43,236 posts)Trenton, Newark. These are pronounced Trent'n and a bit like Nerk, same as New Yerk.
Walleye
(31,032 posts)we can do it
(12,190 posts)Eugene
(61,919 posts)like Quincy, Concord, Worcester, etc.
Woo-burn, Quin-zee, Conk-erd, Wis-ter (or Wis-tah).
Tanuki
(14,919 posts)ironflange
(7,781 posts)Out-of-towners say "Cal-gary," old-timers say "Cal-gree."
While I'm here, let me add "Toronto" vs. "Trawnna."
Lars39
(26,110 posts)Both in TN. The locals pronounce them Bon Ackwa and Buny (long u).
Tanuki
(14,919 posts)pronounced locally as Bolliver and LuhFAYut. 🙉
Lars39
(26,110 posts)sanatanadharma
(3,713 posts)Not all vowels are the same.
unc70
(6,115 posts)Bahama, Kerr Lake, Beaufort, Mebane, Pfafftown, Chinquapin
Fun watching the new hires on local news and weather tracking tornadoes on radar.
area51
(11,916 posts)Have you seen this video?
unc70
(6,115 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)hilarious videos!
MichMan
(11,950 posts)Also Lahser road in metro Detroit. Charlotte Michigan
Edited to add pronunciations
Mackinaw
Soo Saint Marie
Lasher
Char lot (like hot) with emphasis on 2nd syllable
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,356 posts)Up in Oakland County, they usually say "LAH-zer".
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,356 posts)ar-MAY-duh
MY-lun
OH-ree-un
suh-LEEN
They usually trip up newly-arrived newscasters from elsewhere.
Sedona
(3,769 posts)Pronounced "Press kit"
Duppers
(28,125 posts)I've traveled around the country a bit.
Danascot
(4,690 posts)In my neck of the woods
MichMan
(11,950 posts)There is one in Michigan too
Earl_from_PA
(110 posts)...
LakeArenal
(28,829 posts)Tetrachloride
(7,862 posts)Markesan. Mar-ke-zan
Wisconsin Rapids. Rapids
Waupun. Wau-PON
LakeArenal
(28,829 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,184 posts)LakeArenal
(28,829 posts)LakeArenal
(28,829 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,184 posts)WestMichRad
(1,331 posts)They have at least a hundred nearly unpronounceable place names! (Most of which I intentionally mispronounce, just to bug the WI residents!)
essaynnc
(801 posts)It's pronounced "Woostah" by the locals.
How about this one....Athol, MA? If you're NOT a local........!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sedona
(3,769 posts)Daw-ches-ta, Ra-vee-yah and Have-rill
MissMillie
(38,568 posts)but MA has a lot of them. There's no "r" sound in Bedford (Bedfed) or Chelmsford (Chemsfed).
And don't forget Quincy, which isn't pronounced like there's a "c" but rather a "z."
intrepidity
(7,331 posts)spooky3
(34,462 posts)Norfolk, VA
The Blue Flower
(5,443 posts)Not Hen-REEK-oh, Hen-RIKE-oh.
EYESORE 9001
(25,952 posts)It definitely doesnt rhyme with Funky Cold Medina
Its pronounced locally as Muh-DYNE-uh.
we can do it
(12,190 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)Haggard Celine
(16,847 posts)Its Bi-lux-ee, not Bi-lahx-ee. Everybody here does a kind of tee-hee when people pronounce it that way.
Cadfael
(1,299 posts)Dez Planes, El-in-noy
rurallib
(62,432 posts)"the cities" not "the Twin Cities"
Zorro
(15,745 posts)diva77
(7,649 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 26, 2023, 01:47 AM - Edit history (1)
TexasTowelie
(112,314 posts)I always pronounced it the second way in the clip. I never knew anyone that used a long "u" sound.
Bucky
(54,035 posts)"mu hay yuh"
Metaphorical
(1,604 posts)Natives call it Mi-zur-ah, not Mi-zur-ee.
bahboo
(16,349 posts)rooshaville.....
Captain Zero
(6,819 posts)I can always tell when a newbie announcer on an Indianapolis station is from California.
It's funny.
Different Drummer
(7,626 posts)I don't live there, but the town is Vidalia, GA, which is famous for its onions.
Correct pronunciation: Vy-dale-ya.
It drives me crazy that Bobby Flay willfully mispronounces it as Vuh-dal-ya. He says he knows the correct pronunciation, but just doesn't care. I think Geoffrey Zakharian also uses the incorrect pronunciation.
Bayard
(22,117 posts)Louisville, my home town.
Metaphorical
(1,604 posts)All of these were once Coastal Salish nations here in Washington State. (https://kissfm1053.com/12-towns-only-people-from-washington-can-pronounce/)
Aristus
(66,434 posts)See below!
Aristus
(66,434 posts)Nothing says Im new here like mispronouncing that name.
MissB
(15,810 posts)Grew up not too far away. Was the place for the state fair for a long time (or was it county?) Do the Puyallup.
yonder
(9,668 posts)Boy-se, not boy-Zee for Boise though one might think Bwah should work.
Cue-na, not Coo-na for Kuna, Id.
and of course, Wred-nek Phar-murs for our State Legislature.
eppur_se_muova
(36,274 posts)pronounced AY-rab
central scrutinizer
(11,653 posts)Bee-at-triss, accent on middle syllable.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)But, not by those who came from the outside to live there.
Not Heidi
(1,290 posts)Hint: it's not Hunt - ing - ton Beach. Try "Hunnington Beach."
PS Are those pronounced Soo Saint Marie and Mackinaw?
spooky3
(34,462 posts)Mahnt PEEL yur
Vur SALES
Redleg
(5,814 posts)pronounced the same way as in Indiana. Speaking of KY, I have been told that the way to properly pronounce Louisville is to put marbles or pebbles into your mouth and then say it.
spooky3
(34,462 posts)Staph
(6,252 posts)Cairo
Canaan
Hurricane
Kanawha
Kumbrabow
Onego
Philippi
Try saying
KARE-oh
Ka-NANE
HUR-ah-kun
Kuh-NAW (or sometimes Kuh-NAW-(a), with that last syllable barely pronounced)
Kum-BRAY-bow (named for the Kump, Brady, and Bowers families)
ONE-go (seriously!)
FIL-ip-pee
fargone
(111 posts)Grey
(1,581 posts)When I lived there it was O'carbor, it might still be for those of born there.
Tikki
(14,559 posts)In the Washington State it is pronounced: ME saw.
In California it is pronounced: MAY saw.
Tikki
Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)It isn't called that any more, but if you hear anyone call it that, you know they're from there.
Wolf
Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)that are mispronounced by newbies:
Manchaca, pronounced "MAN shack"
Mexia, pronounced "ma HAY uh"
Bexar, pronounced "BAY er"
Buda, pronounced "BYOO da"
Seguin, pronounced "suh GEEN"
And there are probably more I haven't mentioned.
japple
(9,834 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:01 AM - Edit history (1)
asking for my relatives from Suhgeen.
ETA: Did you know that Sabine (river) rhymes with Seguin?
Paladin
(28,267 posts)I wasn't aware that New Berlin presented any challenges.
Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)japple was probably thinking of Boerne, pronounced:
japple
(9,834 posts)pronounce Gruene "Greenie.) Our relatives always laughed when we said "New Ber-Lin" as they have always pronounced it "NewBER-lin." Of course, my granny and the other old timers called horses "harses" and it was "warsh" for wash, "wrench" for rinse.
Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)Berlin, NH is pronounced that way, too.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Also Suh GEEN.
I thought Bexar was Bay HAR.
Rhiannon12866
(205,687 posts)Danmel
(4,918 posts)Hauppauge, pronounced Hop hog
Syosset, pronounced Si ah set
Copiague pronounced Cope eygg
My son went to school in Rochester NY, which has a suburb called Chili. Pronounced Chy LIE, with a hard c.
Captain Zero
(6,819 posts)It's not a sex act you pervert !
DFW
(54,415 posts)People who are not from there always try to be so incredibly correct, they say "Bar-theh-lona" because they know that in Castilian, they pronounce the "z," as well as the "c," if before an "e" or an "i," as an English unvoiced "th."
BUT--in Barcelona, the locals do not speak "Spanish," or what is properly called "castellano," or "Castilian." In Barcelona, the local language is Català, or Catalan. Catalan does not have the "th" sound, and the locals call the city "Bar-sa-LO-na." In Catalan, the unstressed "e" is pronounced like an unstressed "a." I should mention, for accuracy, in case any Catalan speakers here are going to Valencia, that in Valencian Catalan, the unstressed "e" is still pronounced like an "e," so down there, it's "Bar-se-LO-na," and "GRA-si-yes."
In Madrid, to say "thank you," one says, "gracias," and pronounces it "grathias." In Catalan, one says gràcies, and pronounces it like they do in Latin American Spanish, i.e. with the "c" having an "s" sound instead of the "th," and the unstressed "e" sounding like an "a."
Known for being an expensive city by the standards of Spain, the Catalans say, "Barcelona és bona si la bossa sona," or, in Castilian, "Barcelona es buena si la bolsa suena." To the gringos out there, that's "Barcelona is nice if there's [money] jingling in your pocket."
You think that was bad? Tomorrow we take up Basque!
Elessar Zappa
(14,016 posts)I tried to learn some of it and gave up after a few weeks.
DFW
(54,415 posts)I stopped at that. I knew I'd never get any farther without living in Euzkadi, and I was living in Catalunya.
I can still freak out Basques with the few phrases I know, but if they are fluent, I'm lost after "I can speak a little Basque--Neuk piskat Euskera aitxutendot."
lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)They read --- Jerez - Xerex - Sherry
Some friends of mine, a gang of linguists, would gather twice a year and compare notes. One couple were focused on the Basque language and spent every summer in the Basque areas of Spain. I remember a toast... "chin chin!" Apparently common there in the late part of the last century.
When I lived in Idaho I met quite a few Basque folks, largest out of country population is in Boise... or was then. They hold a big festival every year. A truly unique language and culture.
DFW
(54,415 posts)Their big slogan is "Zazpiak Bat" which is their equivalent of "E Pluribus Unum." There are seven Basque provinces, Three in Spain and four in France. Zazpi is "seven" in Basque, and the "-ak" is a plural. "Bat" is "one." Therefore the slogan is sort symbolizing "the seven Basque provinces make up the one Euzkadi," Euzkadi being "the Basque Land" in their language. I once drove through Elko, Nevada, and saw banners with "Zazpiak Bat" everywhere. I assumed it must have been some big Basque celebration day.
I never spent much time in the Basque country, but was very well received when I was there, since my meager few words of their language, Euskera, were far more than most outsiders bother to learn.
Every now and then, I meet someone from there, and casually ask "zuec Euskera aitxutendosue (do you understand Basque)?" which usually is good enough to make them gape in amazement. There are several dialects within the language, and native speakers recognize what I'm speaking as the Bilbao dialect, which is logical since the person who taught me was from there. I have no earthly clue what the correct version would be in any of the other provinces (I am not Nicholai Hel).
**edited comment: on my first solo trip through Europe, when I was 18, on my second night, I was in København(Copenhagen), and at a speech by a Danish politcian, I met a very nice American girl named Jackie Jauregui. I said, that sounds Basque, and she beamed, saying, wow, you are the first guy I ever met who knew that!" I unfortunately never saw her again, or my life might have ended up very differently!
2naSalit
(86,688 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 4, 2023, 09:43 AM - Edit history (1)
Conversations with some of those friends, from my college days I forgot to say. One of those I still have contact with, our linguistics prof. His wife was my dearest friend for 30 years and the whole family took me in as one of their own, we are still very close.
The Nevada, Idaho, Oregon border region and beyond is big sheep country and many of the Basque are/were involved in that. They are part of the Pioneer Days celebrations in Sun Valley/Ketchum every summer too. Most of the sheep herders that I encountered out in the wilds of Idaho, when I was out chasing wolves, were either Basque or from Argentina and may have also been Basque but I couldn't speak what they were speaking so we adopted a sort of lingua franca sort of sign language.
It's some wild, open country out there.
I am sure the diaspora has grown. When I was in Pocatello, one of my neighbors was a Basque man whole had, in his earlier years had gone to Spain and said he spent time in jail for speaking Euskera in public. It's known as an Isolate since it doesn't relate back to any roots of the languages spoken in cultures anywhere near it or clearly identified in the past.
Anyway, thanks for the interesting perspective from over there! I envy your career and the travel it affords. I had dreams of speaking several languages but the closest I got was using them in musical performance instead. At least I had to learn the translations so I knew what i was performing. I used choir as my practicum for my BA.
DFW
(54,415 posts)She is a professional opera singer (mezzo), and has had to learn parts in languages like Russian and even Catalan for performances. She knows some basic German and her French is very good, but she was lost when it came to Catalan and Russian. I sometimes goad her about that. She went to Harvard, where I did not (their admissions committee did not like "uppity" students in 1969-1970), but my subsequent professional life has been one huge nonstop "liberal arts" education tour, where she has not really progressed in the last thirty years, though her level of competence in singing is pretty awesome. Still, at 67, the demand is mostly for younger singers, and she is looking at sort of an involuntary retirement by process of elimination, whereas I am at the opposite end of the spectrum. Not only do I have no competition for my post, I can't even find one person who is both qualified and wants to do it. I painted myself into the proverbial corner, jobwise.
The days where you could be punished for speaking Basque are long gone. In the beginning of the Franco dictatorship, all the schoolteachers from Catalunya and Euzkadi were sent to other regions of Spain, and teachers from those regions were sent to Catalunya and Euzkadi so that there was no danger of teachers and student speaking the same language. Teachers were then told to use corporal punishment on kids that spoke their own languages in school. This had the predictable effect of merely increasing the resistance to the Madrid government, and reinforcing the local nationalism. Even when I was living in Barcelona as a teenager, although school was in Castilian, I immediately asked every native speaker of Catalan to teach me how to speak their language because, goddam it, that's what you do as an "uppity" teenager--you rebel against authority, especially if that authority happens to be a relic fascist dictatorship led by a guy who had Hitler and Mussolini to thank for his position. Our history teacher, though he adhered to the rule of giving his classes in Castilian, was always willing to speak Catalan out of the classroom, and taught us the real history of Spain, including 20th century Spain--a risky move if you don't know if someone will turn you in.
Ever since my dad returned from Russia in 1959, and brought a few post cards with him, I was fascinated by the fact that I couldn't even pronounce the writing on them. I was all of seven years old. But I made a point even back then that I would learn as many languages as I could, so as to not be without the means to communicate with people from other countries. I never made it to the level of some of these genius academics who can converse in everything from Tibetian to Cantonese to Quechua to Hungarian, but I did make it to the point where there are very places on the continent where I live where I have no earthly clue what is going on. Germany borders on about ten other countries, and although I don't really know Czech or Polish, both are Slavic languages, and I know enough Russian to make myself understood on a rudimentary level, and can speak the others (Scandinavian, Dutch, French, Swiss Alemannic) with little to no difficulty.
I LOVE traveling, and I HATE having to ask, "do you speak English?" all the time. On the other hand, if I have to, I DO ask (Hungary, for example--Finland, too, although Swedish is an official language there, and my Swedish is very good). I cringe every time I hear an American tourist walk into some place and start speaking English without even asking if the other person understands or not. We, after all, would consider it the height of arrogance if a German were to walk into a place in Kentucky and start speaking German, not even knowing if anyone understands him or not. The French have a reputation--undeserved, by the way--of acting rudely to people who don't speak French. They don't appreciate it if people start speaking English to them without even asking them if they understand it, but how would someone in Peoria react if someone were to start speaking French to THEM without first asking if they understood it? I'm sure a Frenchman would consider his reception equally rude, and deservedly so
lastlib
(23,257 posts)Furriners pronounce it "Miz-zour-ee". Native pronunciation is "Miz-zour-uh." PROPER pronunciation is "Miz-zour-ih" (short "i" .
Missourians are horrible at geography--for a good reason. Ask a native Missourian where any of these places are:
California
Nevada (pronounced "nuh-VAY-da"
Mexico
Moscow
Versailles (don't you DARE use the French pronunciation!)
Paris
Albany
Cuba
Cabool
(I could go on....)
Bucky
(54,035 posts)It's always funny listening to the traffic report from newly arrived on-air radio announcers and there is a traffic jam on Fuqua or Kuykendahl. (fyoo - kway and kirk - en - doll)
There's a neighborhood that's being gentrified and a lot of newbies have moved on to Tuam. It's "too - am" if you're local, but "twahm or even something close to "2:00 a.m." if you're invading. 😆
But nothing tops those BP engineers I had as clients years ago who told me they were going out to a drilling site near "Gone Zayles, Texas." They literally couldn't pronounce the name Gonzalez.
Bucky
(54,035 posts)It's "Ne vaaaa da" apparently.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Fla Dem
(23,711 posts)Although Harvard is in Cambridge.
But a true Boston accent would say it like this.....
Park the car in Harvard Yard is said "Pahk the cah in Havahd Yahd."
Harker
(14,029 posts)Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
Dale in Laurel MD
(698 posts)The outsider challenge is being able to say it at all.
Harker
(14,029 posts)Shrugging and stammering don't qualify as pronouncing.
Redleg
(5,814 posts)Good lord.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)And not like the city in Egypt.
There is also Havana, Florida, pronounced as HAY-vana, not HaVAna as the Cuban city is.
Forgot Monticello, Florida - NOT pronounced like Thomas Jefferson's home. OUrs has a soft "C."
And of course, no one know how to pronounce Miccosukee, Florida, even though it is pronounced the same way it's spelled.
Locals get around trying to pronounce Estiffinulga by just calling it Stiff & Ugly.
Ursus Rex
(148 posts)It's mo-BEEL, not MO-bill, not MO-beel, and sure not mo-bul.
Chilhowie, VA is pronounced chi-LOW-ie by the people who live down the road, with the LOW sounding like the OW sound in OUCH.
tblue37
(65,457 posts)FakeNoose
(32,680 posts)If you grew up in Pittsburgh (or you know someone who did) then you've heard it correctly pronounced:
Car - NEGG - ee - with the accent on the 2nd syllable.
Everyone else including all the New Yorkers who frequent the Music Hall pronounce it:
CAR- nuh -gee - with the accent on the first syllable.
But we Pittsburghers know how to say it because Andrew Carnegie lived among us, as well as his entire family. Even though that was over 100 years ago, he was well-known as a business and community leader, and in fact he founded several organizations with his name. The town of Carnegie, PA was named after him.
As further proof, Mr. Carnegie grew up with the nickname of "Neggs" which only makes sense because the accent is on the 2nd syllable of his name.
malthaussen
(17,209 posts)I've actually had people presume to "correct" my pronunciation of the name.
-- Mal
lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)Al (like Gore) Benny
yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)besides LouAhVille..
Versailles - Versayles (I did not know it was pronounce that way in other states!)
Cairo Technically in IL but that is where IN, IL & KY join at the juncture of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers
No one has mentioned Cadiz, KY
which is pronounced Kaydeez emphasis on the Kay
malthaussen
(17,209 posts)... all pronounced "Kay-ro."
-- Mal
yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)Tikki
(14,559 posts)pronounced: Wah Nee Me
also..I have always pronounced the Simi in Simi Valley, CA: Sim Me, NOT See Me.
Tikki
Learned that one when I used to pick up bananas there.
wnylib
(21,547 posts)each one rhymes with "by."
Pittsburgh, PA is pronounced like Pitts-barg.
Redleg
(5,814 posts)Pronounced something like Her-uh-kun and sometimes Her-kun. Also Hooper Utah is pronounced with the double o sounding like the u in "put" or the u in the Yiddish word "schtupp." The "Fork" in American Fork and Spanish Fork are sometimes pronounced as "Fark." People in northern Utah often referred to Evanston Wyoming as "Evingston" and they called viaducts "viadocks."
We got us some real friggin' hicks in Utah. Now I live in Kentucky where we all speak the King's English! I sometimes tell my students that I am from Utah and speak English as a second language.
yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)In fact, I am one (now I am in Texas though)
If I really explored a map of Eastern KY I am fairly certain I would find some real doozy town names, none of which would be pronounced the way they are spelled.
What part of KY ? I am from Western KY right between Bowling Green Ky and Clarksville Tn. 6 miles from Tennessee using 3 different routes. Farm country.
Redleg
(5,814 posts)I now live in northern Kentucky, about 30 minutes from Cincinnati. I still laugh at the way people around her pronounce Versailles KY. I have been to Bowling Green and it seems like a nice town. I really like Mammoth Caves and have been there a few times since moving here. I have't really seen much of the state except for just driving through.
It's funny that although I have lived here for just over 20 years, I still think of my home town as Ogden Utah.
yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)in Ky is still 'home'.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)2nd one is San Luis Obispo. Very few locals pronounce Luis like the man's name 'Louie', but non-locals do. Locals say it like 'Lewis'. Usually shortened to 'San Luis' or s.l.o. or slow-town.
Cairycat
(1,706 posts)also a couple smaller towns in Iowa: Nevada and Tripoli
Emile
(22,840 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,205 posts)It's pronounced Muh-HAY-ah. Anna Nicole Smith lived there with her aunt when she was a teenager.