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What's a place that when you hear someone pronounce it, you can immediately tell if they're... (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2023 OP
Louisville, Baltimore, New Orleans. Meadowoak Mar 2023 #1
I was born in Baltimore. Mr.Bill Mar 2023 #7
Even after living there for a few years I never called it "Balmer." Dale in Laurel MD Mar 2023 #11
Welcome to Ballmer, Hon Not Heidi Mar 2023 #62
Willamette WheelWalker Mar 2023 #2
And Oregon uppityperson Mar 2023 #8
I've been there enough times to say Oregun ironflange Mar 2023 #14
New MAGAt gun humper decal central scrutinizer Mar 2023 #56
Rehoboth Beach, Lewes, Cuyahoga Falls we can do it Mar 2023 #3
I was going to say Lewes Delaware Walleye Mar 2023 #15
That's a dead giveaway.😂 we can do it Mar 2023 #61
Atlanta, correctly pronounced 'Atlanna' CurtEastPoint Mar 2023 #4
Bangor, Maine. BANG-goah GPV Mar 2023 #5
Bang her? Sedona Mar 2023 #51
Norfolk, VA spooky3 Mar 2023 #6
Yup. Eko Mar 2023 #19
Reminded me of our old high school cheer! Dave in VA Mar 2023 #52
Melbin. Mister Ed Mar 2023 #9
So many from New Joisey bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #10
Newark, Delaware, we say New Ark Walleye Mar 2023 #17
Another good one. we can do it Mar 2023 #63
Woburn, Mass. and many more Bay State town names Eugene Mar 2023 #12
Billerica, MA Tanuki Mar 2023 #100
+1 2naSalit Apr 2023 #124
Calgary ironflange Mar 2023 #13
Bon Aqua and Buena Vista Lars39 Mar 2023 #16
Also the TN towns of Bolivar and Lafayette, Tanuki Apr 2023 #128
Oh, yes! I'd forgotten about those. Lars39 Apr 2023 #129
Uruguay sanatanadharma Mar 2023 #18
A few here from North Carolina unc70 Mar 2023 #20
My parents were from North Carolina. area51 Mar 2023 #81
Had not seen this. Enjoyed it unc70 Mar 2023 #83
follow It's A Southern Thing on You Tube tons more yellowdogintexas Mar 2023 #109
Mackinac Bridge and Sault Ste Marie MichMan Mar 2023 #21
I think Lahser is pronounced "Lasher" south of Eight Mile. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2023 #97
A few more from Michigan: Armada, Milan, Orion, Saline JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2023 #98
Prescott, AZ Sedona Mar 2023 #22
or bisquit Ptah Mar 2023 #28
1st one I've missed so far. Duppers Mar 2023 #101
Watervliet, Cohoes, Valatie Danascot Mar 2023 #23
I still struggle with Watervliet MichMan Mar 2023 #39
Dubois PA Earl_from_PA Mar 2023 #24
Oregon Wisconsin. LakeArenal Mar 2023 #25
Oconomowoc o-CON-o-mo-wok Tetrachloride Mar 2023 #30
Kaukauna WI. LakeArenal Mar 2023 #33
Little Chute, Shawano, Gillet Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #49
Ooo yes Shawano. LakeArenal Mar 2023 #57
How about Lake Butte des Morts LakeArenal Mar 2023 #58
Good one Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #76
Not fair if you're from Wisconsin WestMichRad Apr 2023 #135
Worcester, MA essaynnc Mar 2023 #26
Don't forget Sedona Mar 2023 #35
More like "Wisstah" MissMillie Mar 2023 #77
Nice thread, but I wish all posters put the pronunciations nt intrepidity Mar 2023 #27
Ok--Naw' fk spooky3 Mar 2023 #38
Henrico, VA The Blue Flower Mar 2023 #29
In my region, there's a city and county named Medina EYESORE 9001 Mar 2023 #31
Ohio? How bout Ravenna? we can do it Mar 2023 #64
Quincy, MA JenniferJuniper Mar 2023 #32
Biloxi, Mississippi Haggard Celine Mar 2023 #34
Des Plaines, Illinois Cadfael Mar 2023 #36
my daughter learned quickly living in MSP Minnesota that they are called rurallib Mar 2023 #37
San Peedro Zorro Mar 2023 #40
aka San Pedro, lol. Also Los FEE-liz aka Los Feliz diva77 Mar 2023 #53
Refugio, Texas TexasTowelie Mar 2023 #41
Now do Mexia, Texas Bucky Mar 2023 #89
Missouri Metaphorical Mar 2023 #42
Russiaville, IN.... bahboo Mar 2023 #43
Carmel in Indiana is different from Carmel in California Captain Zero Mar 2023 #74
One that I can think of in my state of Georgia, Different Drummer Mar 2023 #44
Lou-a-vul, for sure Bayard Mar 2023 #45
Sequim, Issaquah, Sammamish, and of course, Puyallup Metaphorical Mar 2023 #46
YES! Aristus Mar 2023 #48
My home of Puyallup, Washington. Aristus Mar 2023 #47
I don't know how to mispronounce it! MissB Mar 2023 #80
A couple from Idaho: yonder Mar 2023 #50
Arab, AL eppur_se_muova Mar 2023 #54
Beatrice, Nebraska central scrutinizer Mar 2023 #55
"Long Island" in NY is properly pronounced "Lone Gile-land" by those who were born there. Earth-shine Mar 2023 #59
+1 2naSalit Apr 2023 #127
Huntington Beach, California Not Heidi Mar 2023 #60
Montpelier and Versailles, IN spooky3 Mar 2023 #65
We have a Versailles here in KY Redleg Mar 2023 #115
LOL! Nt spooky3 Mar 2023 #116
In West Virginia, try pronouncing.... Staph Mar 2023 #66
Lac Courte Oreilles fargone Mar 2023 #67
Oak Harbor, Washington Grey Mar 2023 #68
There is a small town in both Washington State and California named Mesa. Tikki Mar 2023 #69
Salsbry Wolf Frankula Mar 2023 #70
I lived in Texas for many years and here are a few names Trailrider1951 Mar 2023 #71
How do you pronounce New Berlin? Gruene? Just japple Mar 2023 #78
Gruene: "GREEN" Paladin Mar 2023 #82
Instead of New Berlin Trailrider1951 Mar 2023 #84
No, I knew all about Boerne. We always wondered why they didn't japple Mar 2023 #90
Interesting. I did not know that New Berlin was pronounced that way Trailrider1951 Mar 2023 #95
I'm 3rd generation Texan. I learned Mahayuh a long time ago. CTyankee Mar 2023 #88
Corinth, New York Rhiannon12866 Mar 2023 #72
On Long Island, lots of native American names Danmel Mar 2023 #73
We have French Lick in Indiana but Captain Zero Mar 2023 #75
Barcelona DFW Mar 2023 #79
Basque is a crazy language. Elessar Zappa Mar 2023 #92
I learned a few phrases of the Bilbao dialect while I was living in Spain DFW Mar 2023 #93
There are signs welcoming you to Jerez de la Frontera. lpbk2713 Mar 2023 #107
Ha! 2naSalit Apr 2023 #125
There are substantial Basque enclaves in Nevada, Idaho and Montana DFW Apr 2023 #131
Brings back memories of... 2naSalit Apr 2023 #133
You and my sister have something in common DFW Apr 2023 #134
Missouri. lastlib Mar 2023 #85
Usually it's street names in Houston Bucky Mar 2023 #86
People will straight up tell Nevadans they're pronouncing the name of their own state wrong Bucky Mar 2023 #87
Coos or Berlin New Hampshire n/t sarge43 Mar 2023 #91
Boston near Harvard Yard. Fla Dem Mar 2023 #94
... Harker Mar 2023 #96
It's actually pronounced entirely phonetically in Welsh Dale in Laurel MD Mar 2023 #102
You have a point. Harker Mar 2023 #105
I think that just remembering the name would be challenging enough Redleg Mar 2023 #117
Cairo, Georgia - locally pronounced the same way as Karo syrup is csziggy Mar 2023 #99
Mobile, AL. Ursus Rex Mar 2023 #103
Nevada. tblue37 Mar 2023 #104
Carnegie, PA - only Pittsburghers pronounce it correctly FakeNoose Mar 2023 #106
Yep, dead giveaway. malthaussen Mar 2023 #112
Albany, Georgia lpbk2713 Mar 2023 #108
a couple from Kentucky yellowdogintexas Mar 2023 #110
There are a couple of Cairos in the US... malthaussen Mar 2023 #113
yep just like the syrup. nt yellowdogintexas Apr 2023 #119
The Hueneme in Port Hueneme, CA Tikki Mar 2023 #111
Yup... 2naSalit Apr 2023 #126
Chili, NY. Each syllable has a long "i" and wnylib Mar 2023 #114
Hurricane Utah Redleg Mar 2023 #118
There are plenty of real hicks in KY too. yellowdogintexas Apr 2023 #120
I said it with tongue in cheek Redleg Apr 2023 #121
I have been in Texas since 1989 and my little town yellowdogintexas Apr 2023 #122
Few locals call SF, CA 'Frisco' for one Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2023 #123
Des Moines Cairycat Apr 2023 #130
Minnesota, it's the way they pronounce the O in Minnesota. Emile Apr 2023 #132
Mexia, TX TexasBushwhacker Apr 2023 #136

Mr.Bill

(24,311 posts)
7. I was born in Baltimore.
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 06:47 PM
Mar 2023

We moved to what is now Silicon Valley in 1961 when I was eight. All the kids made fun of my accent, and I worked hard to lose it quickly. To this day, if I go to Baltimore, I have the accent back within 30 minutes of getting off the plane.

Dale in Laurel MD

(698 posts)
11. Even after living there for a few years I never called it "Balmer."
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 06:54 PM
Mar 2023

Then there's Casa Grande, AZ, pronounced approximately "Cassgrand."

Not Heidi

(1,290 posts)
62. Welcome to Ballmer, Hon
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 10:01 PM
Mar 2023

On a freeway into Baltimore (damned if I can remember which one - 8??) someone pasted a huge HON at the end of the greeting that said "WELCOME TO BALTIMORE."

I like Baltimore - the parts I've been to, anyway. Oriole Park, the Inner Harbor, and Café Hon.

bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
10. So many from New Joisey
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 06:52 PM
Mar 2023

Trenton, Newark. These are pronounced Trent'n and a bit like Nerk, same as New Yerk.

Eugene

(61,919 posts)
12. Woburn, Mass. and many more Bay State town names
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 07:01 PM
Mar 2023

like Quincy, Concord, Worcester, etc.

Woo-burn, Quin-zee, Conk-erd, Wis-ter (or Wis-tah).

ironflange

(7,781 posts)
13. Calgary
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 07:02 PM
Mar 2023

Out-of-towners say "Cal-gary," old-timers say "Cal-gree."

While I'm here, let me add "Toronto" vs. "Trawnna."

unc70

(6,115 posts)
20. A few here from North Carolina
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 07:09 PM
Mar 2023

Bahama, Kerr Lake, Beaufort, Mebane, Pfafftown, Chinquapin

Fun watching the new hires on local news and weather tracking tornadoes on radar.

MichMan

(11,950 posts)
21. Mackinac Bridge and Sault Ste Marie
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 07:09 PM
Mar 2023

Also Lahser road in metro Detroit. Charlotte Michigan

Edited to add pronunciations

Mackinaw

Soo Saint Marie

Lasher

Char lot (like hot) with emphasis on 2nd syllable

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,356 posts)
97. I think Lahser is pronounced "Lasher" south of Eight Mile.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 03:39 PM
Mar 2023

Up in Oakland County, they usually say "LAH-zer".

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,356 posts)
98. A few more from Michigan: Armada, Milan, Orion, Saline
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 03:43 PM
Mar 2023

ar-MAY-duh
MY-lun
OH-ree-un
suh-LEEN

They usually trip up newly-arrived newscasters from elsewhere.

WestMichRad

(1,331 posts)
135. Not fair if you're from Wisconsin
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 08:14 PM
Apr 2023

They have at least a hundred nearly unpronounceable place names! (Most of which I intentionally mispronounce, just to bug the WI residents!)

essaynnc

(801 posts)
26. Worcester, MA
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 07:22 PM
Mar 2023

It's pronounced "Woostah" by the locals.

How about this one....Athol, MA? If you're NOT a local........!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MissMillie

(38,568 posts)
77. More like "Wisstah"
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:36 AM
Mar 2023

but MA has a lot of them. There's no "r" sound in Bedford (Bedfed) or Chelmsford (Chemsfed).

And don't forget Quincy, which isn't pronounced like there's a "c" but rather a "z."

EYESORE 9001

(25,952 posts)
31. In my region, there's a city and county named Medina
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 07:34 PM
Mar 2023

It definitely doesn’t rhyme with ‘Funky Cold Medina’
It’s pronounced locally as Muh-DYNE-uh.

Haggard Celine

(16,847 posts)
34. Biloxi, Mississippi
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 07:39 PM
Mar 2023

It’s Bi-lux-ee, not Bi-lahx-ee. Everybody here does a kind of tee-hee when people pronounce it that way.

rurallib

(62,432 posts)
37. my daughter learned quickly living in MSP Minnesota that they are called
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 07:49 PM
Mar 2023

"the cities" not "the Twin Cities"

TexasTowelie

(112,314 posts)
41. Refugio, Texas
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 08:01 PM
Mar 2023


I always pronounced it the second way in the clip. I never knew anyone that used a long "u" sound.

Captain Zero

(6,819 posts)
74. Carmel in Indiana is different from Carmel in California
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 07:57 AM
Mar 2023

I can always tell when a newbie announcer on an Indianapolis station is from California.
It's funny.

Different Drummer

(7,626 posts)
44. One that I can think of in my state of Georgia,
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 08:06 PM
Mar 2023

I don't live there, but the town is Vidalia, GA, which is famous for its onions.

Correct pronunciation: Vy-dale-ya.

It drives me crazy that Bobby Flay willfully mispronounces it as Vuh-dal-ya. He says he knows the correct pronunciation, but just doesn't care. I think Geoffrey Zakharian also uses the incorrect pronunciation.

MissB

(15,810 posts)
80. I don't know how to mispronounce it!
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:01 AM
Mar 2023

Grew up not too far away. Was the place for the state fair for a long time (or was it county?) Do the Puyallup.

yonder

(9,668 posts)
50. A couple from Idaho:
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 08:36 PM
Mar 2023

Boy-se, not boy-Zee for Boise though one might think Bwah should work.

Cue-na, not Coo-na for Kuna, Id.

and of course, Wred-nek Phar-murs for our State Legislature.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
59. "Long Island" in NY is properly pronounced "Lone Gile-land" by those who were born there.
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:54 PM
Mar 2023

But, not by those who came from the outside to live there.

Not Heidi

(1,290 posts)
60. Huntington Beach, California
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:56 PM
Mar 2023

Hint: it's not Hunt - ing - ton Beach. Try "Hunnington Beach."

PS Are those pronounced Soo Saint Marie and Mackinaw?

Redleg

(5,814 posts)
115. We have a Versailles here in KY
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 03:09 PM
Mar 2023

pronounced the same way as in Indiana. Speaking of KY, I have been told that the way to properly pronounce Louisville is to put marbles or pebbles into your mouth and then say it.

Staph

(6,252 posts)
66. In West Virginia, try pronouncing....
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 10:20 PM
Mar 2023

Cairo
Canaan
Hurricane
Kanawha
Kumbrabow
Onego
Philippi








Try saying
KARE-oh
Ka-NANE
HUR-ah-kun
Kuh-NAW (or sometimes Kuh-NAW-(a), with that last syllable barely pronounced)
Kum-BRAY-bow (named for the Kump, Brady, and Bowers families)
ONE-go (seriously!)
FIL-ip-pee


Grey

(1,581 posts)
68. Oak Harbor, Washington
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:05 AM
Mar 2023

When I lived there it was O'carbor, it might still be for those of born there.

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
69. There is a small town in both Washington State and California named Mesa.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:26 AM
Mar 2023

In the Washington State it is pronounced: ME saw.

In California it is pronounced: MAY saw.


Tikki

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
70. Salsbry
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:43 AM
Mar 2023

It isn't called that any more, but if you hear anyone call it that, you know they're from there.

Wolf

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
71. I lived in Texas for many years and here are a few names
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 01:09 AM
Mar 2023

that are mispronounced by newbies:

Manchaca, pronounced "MAN shack"
Mexia, pronounced "ma HAY uh"
Bexar, pronounced "BAY er"
Buda, pronounced "BYOO da"
Seguin, pronounced "suh GEEN"

And there are probably more I haven't mentioned.

japple

(9,834 posts)
78. How do you pronounce New Berlin? Gruene? Just
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:11 AM
Mar 2023

Last edited Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:01 AM - Edit history (1)

asking for my relatives from Suhgeen.

ETA: Did you know that Sabine (river) rhymes with Seguin?

japple

(9,834 posts)
90. No, I knew all about Boerne. We always wondered why they didn't
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:44 PM
Mar 2023

pronounce Gruene "Greenie.) Our relatives always laughed when we said "New Ber-Lin" as they have always pronounced it "NewBER-lin." Of course, my granny and the other old timers called horses "harses" and it was "warsh" for wash, "wrench" for rinse.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
95. Interesting. I did not know that New Berlin was pronounced that way
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 02:36 PM
Mar 2023

Berlin, NH is pronounced that way, too.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
88. I'm 3rd generation Texan. I learned Mahayuh a long time ago.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:51 AM
Mar 2023

Also Suh GEEN.

I thought Bexar was Bay HAR.

Danmel

(4,918 posts)
73. On Long Island, lots of native American names
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 07:07 AM
Mar 2023

Hauppauge, pronounced Hop hog
Syosset, pronounced Si ah set
Copiague pronounced Cope eygg

My son went to school in Rochester NY, which has a suburb called Chili. Pronounced Chy LIE, with a hard c.

DFW

(54,415 posts)
79. Barcelona
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:45 AM
Mar 2023

People who are not from there always try to be so incredibly correct, they say "Bar-theh-lona" because they know that in Castilian, they pronounce the "z," as well as the "c," if before an "e" or an "i," as an English unvoiced "th."

BUT--in Barcelona, the locals do not speak "Spanish," or what is properly called "castellano," or "Castilian." In Barcelona, the local language is Català, or Catalan. Catalan does not have the "th" sound, and the locals call the city "Bar-sa-LO-na." In Catalan, the unstressed "e" is pronounced like an unstressed "a." I should mention, for accuracy, in case any Catalan speakers here are going to Valencia, that in Valencian Catalan, the unstressed "e" is still pronounced like an "e," so down there, it's "Bar-se-LO-na," and "GRA-si-yes."

In Madrid, to say "thank you," one says, "gracias," and pronounces it "grathias." In Catalan, one says gràcies, and pronounces it like they do in Latin American Spanish, i.e. with the "c" having an "s" sound instead of the "th," and the unstressed "e" sounding like an "a."

Known for being an expensive city by the standards of Spain, the Catalans say, "Barcelona és bona si la bossa sona," or, in Castilian, "Barcelona es buena si la bolsa suena." To the gringos out there, that's "Barcelona is nice if there's [money] jingling in your pocket."

You think that was bad? Tomorrow we take up Basque!

DFW

(54,415 posts)
93. I learned a few phrases of the Bilbao dialect while I was living in Spain
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 02:14 PM
Mar 2023

I stopped at that. I knew I'd never get any farther without living in Euzkadi, and I was living in Catalunya.

I can still freak out Basques with the few phrases I know, but if they are fluent, I'm lost after "I can speak a little Basque--Neuk piskat Euskera aitxutendot."

2naSalit

(86,688 posts)
125. Ha!
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 05:18 PM
Apr 2023

Some friends of mine, a gang of linguists, would gather twice a year and compare notes. One couple were focused on the Basque language and spent every summer in the Basque areas of Spain. I remember a toast... "chin chin!" Apparently common there in the late part of the last century.

When I lived in Idaho I met quite a few Basque folks, largest out of country population is in Boise... or was then. They hold a big festival every year. A truly unique language and culture.



DFW

(54,415 posts)
131. There are substantial Basque enclaves in Nevada, Idaho and Montana
Sun Apr 2, 2023, 04:42 AM
Apr 2023

Their big slogan is "Zazpiak Bat" which is their equivalent of "E Pluribus Unum." There are seven Basque provinces, Three in Spain and four in France. Zazpi is "seven" in Basque, and the "-ak" is a plural. "Bat" is "one." Therefore the slogan is sort symbolizing "the seven Basque provinces make up the one Euzkadi," Euzkadi being "the Basque Land" in their language. I once drove through Elko, Nevada, and saw banners with "Zazpiak Bat" everywhere. I assumed it must have been some big Basque celebration day.

I never spent much time in the Basque country, but was very well received when I was there, since my meager few words of their language, Euskera, were far more than most outsiders bother to learn.

Every now and then, I meet someone from there, and casually ask "zuec Euskera aitxutendosue (do you understand Basque)?" which usually is good enough to make them gape in amazement. There are several dialects within the language, and native speakers recognize what I'm speaking as the Bilbao dialect, which is logical since the person who taught me was from there. I have no earthly clue what the correct version would be in any of the other provinces (I am not Nicholai Hel).

**edited comment: on my first solo trip through Europe, when I was 18, on my second night, I was in København(Copenhagen), and at a speech by a Danish politcian, I met a very nice American girl named Jackie Jauregui. I said, that sounds Basque, and she beamed, saying, wow, you are the first guy I ever met who knew that!" I unfortunately never saw her again, or my life might have ended up very differently!

2naSalit

(86,688 posts)
133. Brings back memories of...
Sun Apr 2, 2023, 09:01 AM
Apr 2023

Last edited Tue Apr 4, 2023, 09:43 AM - Edit history (1)

Conversations with some of those friends, from my college days I forgot to say. One of those I still have contact with, our linguistics prof. His wife was my dearest friend for 30 years and the whole family took me in as one of their own, we are still very close.

The Nevada, Idaho, Oregon border region and beyond is big sheep country and many of the Basque are/were involved in that. They are part of the Pioneer Days celebrations in Sun Valley/Ketchum every summer too. Most of the sheep herders that I encountered out in the wilds of Idaho, when I was out chasing wolves, were either Basque or from Argentina and may have also been Basque but I couldn't speak what they were speaking so we adopted a sort of lingua franca sort of sign language.

It's some wild, open country out there.

I am sure the diaspora has grown. When I was in Pocatello, one of my neighbors was a Basque man whole had, in his earlier years had gone to Spain and said he spent time in jail for speaking Euskera in public. It's known as an Isolate since it doesn't relate back to any roots of the languages spoken in cultures anywhere near it or clearly identified in the past.

Anyway, thanks for the interesting perspective from over there! I envy your career and the travel it affords. I had dreams of speaking several languages but the closest I got was using them in musical performance instead. At least I had to learn the translations so I knew what i was performing. I used choir as my practicum for my BA.

DFW

(54,415 posts)
134. You and my sister have something in common
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 07:29 AM
Apr 2023

She is a professional opera singer (mezzo), and has had to learn parts in languages like Russian and even Catalan for performances. She knows some basic German and her French is very good, but she was lost when it came to Catalan and Russian. I sometimes goad her about that. She went to Harvard, where I did not (their admissions committee did not like "uppity" students in 1969-1970), but my subsequent professional life has been one huge nonstop "liberal arts" education tour, where she has not really progressed in the last thirty years, though her level of competence in singing is pretty awesome. Still, at 67, the demand is mostly for younger singers, and she is looking at sort of an involuntary retirement by process of elimination, whereas I am at the opposite end of the spectrum. Not only do I have no competition for my post, I can't even find one person who is both qualified and wants to do it. I painted myself into the proverbial corner, jobwise.

The days where you could be punished for speaking Basque are long gone. In the beginning of the Franco dictatorship, all the schoolteachers from Catalunya and Euzkadi were sent to other regions of Spain, and teachers from those regions were sent to Catalunya and Euzkadi so that there was no danger of teachers and student speaking the same language. Teachers were then told to use corporal punishment on kids that spoke their own languages in school. This had the predictable effect of merely increasing the resistance to the Madrid government, and reinforcing the local nationalism. Even when I was living in Barcelona as a teenager, although school was in Castilian, I immediately asked every native speaker of Catalan to teach me how to speak their language because, goddam it, that's what you do as an "uppity" teenager--you rebel against authority, especially if that authority happens to be a relic fascist dictatorship led by a guy who had Hitler and Mussolini to thank for his position. Our history teacher, though he adhered to the rule of giving his classes in Castilian, was always willing to speak Catalan out of the classroom, and taught us the real history of Spain, including 20th century Spain--a risky move if you don't know if someone will turn you in.

Ever since my dad returned from Russia in 1959, and brought a few post cards with him, I was fascinated by the fact that I couldn't even pronounce the writing on them. I was all of seven years old. But I made a point even back then that I would learn as many languages as I could, so as to not be without the means to communicate with people from other countries. I never made it to the level of some of these genius academics who can converse in everything from Tibetian to Cantonese to Quechua to Hungarian, but I did make it to the point where there are very places on the continent where I live where I have no earthly clue what is going on. Germany borders on about ten other countries, and although I don't really know Czech or Polish, both are Slavic languages, and I know enough Russian to make myself understood on a rudimentary level, and can speak the others (Scandinavian, Dutch, French, Swiss Alemannic) with little to no difficulty.

I LOVE traveling, and I HATE having to ask, "do you speak English?" all the time. On the other hand, if I have to, I DO ask (Hungary, for example--Finland, too, although Swedish is an official language there, and my Swedish is very good). I cringe every time I hear an American tourist walk into some place and start speaking English without even asking if the other person understands or not. We, after all, would consider it the height of arrogance if a German were to walk into a place in Kentucky and start speaking German, not even knowing if anyone understands him or not. The French have a reputation--undeserved, by the way--of acting rudely to people who don't speak French. They don't appreciate it if people start speaking English to them without even asking them if they understand it, but how would someone in Peoria react if someone were to start speaking French to THEM without first asking if they understood it? I'm sure a Frenchman would consider his reception equally rude, and deservedly so

lastlib

(23,257 posts)
85. Missouri.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:26 AM
Mar 2023

Furriners pronounce it "Miz-zour-ee". Native pronunciation is "Miz-zour-uh." PROPER pronunciation is "Miz-zour-ih" (short "i&quot .

Missourians are horrible at geography--for a good reason. Ask a native Missourian where any of these places are:
California
Nevada (pronounced "nuh-VAY-da&quot
Mexico
Moscow
Versailles (don't you DARE use the French pronunciation!)
Paris
Albany
Cuba
Cabool

(I could go on....)

Bucky

(54,035 posts)
86. Usually it's street names in Houston
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:43 AM
Mar 2023

It's always funny listening to the traffic report from newly arrived on-air radio announcers and there is a traffic jam on Fuqua or Kuykendahl. (fyoo - kway and kirk - en - doll)

There's a neighborhood that's being gentrified and a lot of newbies have moved on to Tuam. It's "too - am" if you're local, but "twahm or even something close to "2:00 a.m." if you're invading. 😆

But nothing tops those BP engineers I had as clients years ago who told me they were going out to a drilling site near "Gone Zayles, Texas." They literally couldn't pronounce the name Gonzalez.

Bucky

(54,035 posts)
87. People will straight up tell Nevadans they're pronouncing the name of their own state wrong
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:47 AM
Mar 2023

It's "Ne vaaaa da" apparently.

Fla Dem

(23,711 posts)
94. Boston near Harvard Yard.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 02:18 PM
Mar 2023

Although Harvard is in Cambridge.

But a true Boston accent would say it like this.....

Park the car in Harvard Yard is said "Pahk the cah in Havahd Yahd."



Dale in Laurel MD

(698 posts)
102. It's actually pronounced entirely phonetically in Welsh
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 01:59 PM
Mar 2023

The outsider challenge is being able to say it at all.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
99. Cairo, Georgia - locally pronounced the same way as Karo syrup is
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 04:01 PM
Mar 2023

And not like the city in Egypt.

There is also Havana, Florida, pronounced as HAY-vana, not HaVAna as the Cuban city is.

Forgot Monticello, Florida - NOT pronounced like Thomas Jefferson's home. OUrs has a soft "C."

And of course, no one know how to pronounce Miccosukee, Florida, even though it is pronounced the same way it's spelled.

Locals get around trying to pronounce Estiffinulga by just calling it Stiff & Ugly.

Ursus Rex

(148 posts)
103. Mobile, AL.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:34 PM
Mar 2023

It's mo-BEEL, not MO-bill, not MO-beel, and sure not mo-bul.

Chilhowie, VA is pronounced chi-LOW-ie by the people who live down the road, with the LOW sounding like the OW sound in OUCH.

FakeNoose

(32,680 posts)
106. Carnegie, PA - only Pittsburghers pronounce it correctly
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:07 PM
Mar 2023

If you grew up in Pittsburgh (or you know someone who did) then you've heard it correctly pronounced:

Car - NEGG - ee - with the accent on the 2nd syllable.

Everyone else including all the New Yorkers who frequent the Music Hall pronounce it:

CAR- nuh -gee - with the accent on the first syllable.

But we Pittsburghers know how to say it because Andrew Carnegie lived among us, as well as his entire family. Even though that was over 100 years ago, he was well-known as a business and community leader, and in fact he founded several organizations with his name. The town of Carnegie, PA was named after him.

As further proof, Mr. Carnegie grew up with the nickname of "Neggs" which only makes sense because the accent is on the 2nd syllable of his name.

malthaussen

(17,209 posts)
112. Yep, dead giveaway.
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 01:42 PM
Mar 2023

I've actually had people presume to "correct" my pronunciation of the name.

-- Mal

yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
110. a couple from Kentucky
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 11:38 AM
Mar 2023

besides LouAhVille..

Versailles - Versayles (I did not know it was pronounce that way in other states!)

Cairo Technically in IL but that is where IN, IL & KY join at the juncture of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers

No one has mentioned Cadiz, KY
which is pronounced Kaydeez emphasis on the Kay

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
111. The Hueneme in Port Hueneme, CA
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 12:22 PM
Mar 2023

pronounced: Wah Nee Me
also..I have always pronounced the Simi in Simi Valley, CA: Sim Me, NOT See Me.


Tikki

wnylib

(21,547 posts)
114. Chili, NY. Each syllable has a long "i" and
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 02:18 PM
Mar 2023

each one rhymes with "by."

Pittsburgh, PA is pronounced like Pitts-barg.

Redleg

(5,814 posts)
118. Hurricane Utah
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 04:25 PM
Mar 2023

Pronounced something like Her-uh-kun and sometimes Her-kun. Also Hooper Utah is pronounced with the double o sounding like the u in "put" or the u in the Yiddish word "schtupp." The "Fork" in American Fork and Spanish Fork are sometimes pronounced as "Fark." People in northern Utah often referred to Evanston Wyoming as "Evingston" and they called viaducts "viadocks."

We got us some real friggin' hicks in Utah. Now I live in Kentucky where we all speak the King's English! I sometimes tell my students that I am from Utah and speak English as a second language.

yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
120. There are plenty of real hicks in KY too.
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 12:56 AM
Apr 2023

In fact, I am one (now I am in Texas though)
If I really explored a map of Eastern KY I am fairly certain I would find some real doozy town names, none of which would be pronounced the way they are spelled.

What part of KY ? I am from Western KY right between Bowling Green Ky and Clarksville Tn. 6 miles from Tennessee using 3 different routes. Farm country.

Redleg

(5,814 posts)
121. I said it with tongue in cheek
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 10:35 AM
Apr 2023

I now live in northern Kentucky, about 30 minutes from Cincinnati. I still laugh at the way people around her pronounce Versailles KY. I have been to Bowling Green and it seems like a nice town. I really like Mammoth Caves and have been there a few times since moving here. I have't really seen much of the state except for just driving through.

It's funny that although I have lived here for just over 20 years, I still think of my home town as Ogden Utah.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
123. Few locals call SF, CA 'Frisco' for one
Sat Apr 1, 2023, 11:23 AM
Apr 2023

2nd one is San Luis Obispo. Very few locals pronounce Luis like the man's name 'Louie', but non-locals do. Locals say it like 'Lewis'. Usually shortened to 'San Luis' or s.l.o. or slow-town.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,205 posts)
136. Mexia, TX
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 07:54 PM
Apr 2023

It's pronounced Muh-HAY-ah. Anna Nicole Smith lived there with her aunt when she was a teenager.

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