More Brain Work

[Laura PourMeADrink]

PS I have guess but don't have the real answer yet

[wendyb-NC]

1. 12?

[SarasotaDem]

2. 14 ?

[Lars39]

3. 20

[MN2theMax]

4. I'm bad at math!

23?

No, wait...28

[mopinko]

5. 15

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oops

[Yavin4]

41. That's what I got. n/t

[taxi]

6. 10 six packs

[dweller]

7. xx

grrr



✌🏻

[calguy]

8. I2

Each shoe is worth 5, as is the kid, equaling 10. Each ice cream cone is worth 2, which added to 10 makes 12.

[WhiteTara]

17. shoes are worth 10

kid is worth 5 and ice cream is worth 4

I say the answer is 19

[WhiteTara]

19. oops! I saw 2 shoes in the last equation

I'm wrong. not 19

[ProfessorGAC]

37. Two Shoes 10

One shoe = 5.

[WhiteTara]

49. lazy mind tricks

I saw two shoes in the top line and translated it as two shoes in the bottom. Careless computation ... glad I'm not being graded.

[ProfessorGAC]

51. Me, Too

I did all the math right but missed that the boy in the bottom line is wearing those shoes. So, I said 23 when it should be 43.
Shame on me. The shoes are brightly colored. Not like they hid them.

[lastlib]

9. It's either 15 or 42.....

Because the answer is ALWAYS 42, or because (5x2)+5 is 15.....

[WheelWalker]

10. 48

[rsdsharp]

11. 15

[lapfog_1]

13. you actually cannot tell

because the symbol "1 shoe" and the symbol "1 cone" have no equation to determine their values...

but, assuming that "1 shoe" and "1 cone" are 1/2 the value of "2 shoes", etc.

30 / 3 = 10 so the value of "2 shoes" is 10.

20 - 10 = 10 and 10 / 2 = 5 so the value of 1 person = 5.

13 - 5 = 8 and 8 / 2 is 4 so the value of 2 cones = 4.

The last equation is

5 + 5 x 2 or 15. Multiplication always takes precedence over addition.

So the answer is 15

My eyes are not as sharp as they used to be, so I missed that the person is holding 2 cones. Assuming we add those together BEFORE doing the rest of the equation,

5+ (5+4) x 2 = 23

so I would go with 23 and state that this puzzle is not clear as to how to evaluate symbols that have no prior definition.

[Codifer]

14. I think

is 45

shoe = 10

boy is -5

cone thing = 9

10-5x9=45

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Why"cone thing" 9 ?

[Codifer]

18. cuz I thought

wrongly that 9 + 9 + (-5) = 13

My mistake was in equation #2

Boy is 5.... NOT -5

[Codifer]

16. I was wrong

Lapfrog is correct?


shoe = 10

boy = 5

cone + cone = 8

cone = 4

10 + (4 x 5) = 30


Edit to correct Lapfog not Lapfrog

Edit to add again:

I also missed the boy is holding 2 cones so:

10 + {(5 + 4 + 4) x 4} = 62

maybe

[calguy]

22. Did you notice the two cones the boy is holding in the last equation ?

[Codifer]

23. no I missed them

several times it seems

[calguy]

25. I missed them too, until a kind soul pointed it out to me.

Trust me, I'm not smart enough to have figured that on my own.

[Codifer]

27. me neither

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Look at boy again

[OLDMDDEM]

21. 12

[Codifer]

26. My final answer

Probably wrong.

62

see previous equation oft edited

[beemerphill]

28. The answer is:

19

[beemerphill]

29. I missed the two toys in his hands.

My revised answer is 27.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. Clue I heard.... It's over 30

[Ahna KneeMoose]

31. 43 Is The Correct Answer :: Thank You LPMAD

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Shoe = 5

Boy = 5

Cone = 2

5 plus 19 times 2 = 48 (Correct Answer)

OR Maybe

5 plus (19 times 2 = 38) = 43 (More Correct Answer :: As Marked-Up In Red By The Kind 'Laura PourMeADrink')

[Ahna KneeMoose]

34. I Looked And That's How I Reached Nineteen (n/t)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. Sorry! Should have said check your math?

[Ptah]

32. Ambiguous, indeterminate.

[Prairie_Seagull]

54. There is a right shoe and a left shoe. Because we can calculate the boy as 5.

Why would we have 2 variables equal to 5. The options for the shoes are 9,1 8,2, 7,3, 6,4 and the opposite. As a consequence the Rt shoe at the bottom could be 1 or 2 or 3,4,6,7,8 or 9. The only thing it cant be is 5 that variable is already used so there is a group of answers....I think.

Will there be a test?

Ask me later, Can I get a bathroom pass?

[Ptah]

55. Interesting.

The shoes in the last line are .05 the size of the original shoes.

The fries in the last line are .1 the size of the original fries.

I'll leave the math to you.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

66. +1.

[Jack the Greater]

67. Which symbol represents the larger amount?

This one: 7

Or this one:

[Ptah]

69. If you see two bags of flour, one 5 pounds, the other 25 pounds,

will they cost the same? After all, it's just two bags.

[Jack the Greater]

73. Bags of flour are actual things, symbols are not

The numeral "7" is a symbol, and it represents the same amount, or number, whether written small or large. The shoes and cones are symbols that stand for a number. The number does not change if the symbol is displayed larger or smaller..

[Ptah]

76. To represent different sizes of a bag of flour is easy:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

65. Holy cow, you're a genuine brainiac!!!!! You think

way outside the box ! Like it.

Like an average brained person, just assumed each sneaker - left or right was of equal value. But Ptah is right, sneaker on bottom is a hair bigger. Also just noticed the fish and chips cone in the final line is slanted in the wrong direction.

But, seriously doubt whoever came up with this would be thinking that much . Otherwise there'd be no generally accepted answer since you'd have variations ( size change guesses) and unknowable pieces (a different fish n chips of unknown value)

[Prairie_Seagull]

70. The exercise could be to find out that the exact answer is unknowable.

I can be criticized for overthinking shit and at times the opposite. haha Jumping to conclusions and the like.

For purposes of this exercise. I have 2 answers, 43 or unknowable. Come on I should get partial credit for the unknowable answer. Remember order of operations in the final line.

This was fun Laura, Now more coffee

[Laura PourMeADrink]

71. Ok... You get partial credit, IF you can find the kitty lol

[Prairie_Seagull]

74. Wife found it in like 3 seconds so I can not take credit. I still want my partial credit. haha

[Jack the Greater]

68. Interesting observation that a right and a left shoe might have two different values

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But if this were the case, you cannot solve the bottom equation, as a right shoe could be anything from zero to 10, zero and 10 being a possible combination. Following from this, the cone in the bottom equation is at a very different angle than any of the cones in the third equation.

To make the a single shoe, regardless of left or right, equal to 5, one pair of shoes in the first equation would have to be either two left shoes or two right shoes. In third equation, the cones would have to be distinct, not overlapping, and at the same angle, and the cone in the last equation would need to be at that same angle. This would remove any ambiguity and force the solution of the last equation.

[Jack the Greater]

36. PEMDAS

43

"boy/shoes/pomme frites" times "pomme frites" plus "shoe"

(19x2)+5

38+5=43

[ProfessorGAC]

39. Not Getting That

Where are you getting the 19. Two fries & the boy is 9, no?
We agree on order of operations.

[Jack the Greater]

43. Boy5 - two shoes10 fries4

Total 19

[ProfessorGAC]

46. Aha!

I missed that he was wearing the shoes! D'oh! I get the same answer as you.
I noticed he was holding the fries.
Maybe if the shoes were a bright color. Oh, wait!

[WhiteTara]

57. wait! What about the extra shoe?

Doesn't that add 5?

[Jack the Greater]

59. There are three shoes

PEDMAS dictates that everything on the little boy is added up first. The boy, two shoes and two fries adds up to 19. The next operation is to multiply by the fries. That is times 2. We are now at 38. The last operation is to add the shoe, which is 5, for a total of 43.

[WhiteTara]

61. thank you

[Laura PourMeADrink]

72. You are very good at explaining things!

[ProfessorGAC]

38. Try This

3 PAIRS of Shoes = 30. A Pair = 10. One Shoe = 5.
2 Empty Handed Boys plus a pair of shoes equal 20. 20 minus the shoes = 10. The boy is 5.
Four fries & an empty handed boy = 13. 13 - 5 = 8. Each fry = 2.
Order of operations says we do the multiplication first. So, a boy with 2 fries in his hands is 5 + 4 =9.
9 times the fries (2) = 18.
Add the single shoe and we get 18 + 5 = 23.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

47. What about shoes boy wearing in last line?

[ProfessorGAC]

48. Yeah, I Missed That

Another poster turned me on to that.
I just missed that.

[Yavin4]

40. 23

Each shoe = 5
Little man = 5
Cone = 2

I didn't see the cones that the kid was holding.

[Codifer]

42. You are orrect

I am so bad at this.

I did not notice the difference in the pairs.

I figured out lyrics o e shoe ND one vone.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

45. What difference in the pairs? 3 pair plus one single all the same right?

[Codifer]

50. Sorry

I wrote that last at the VA using my phone and no reading glasses.

Because I did not notice that there were pairs my shoddy math was way off and as a result the value for shoes and cones were two times what they should have been.

When this error is corrected and the equation redone, the corrected answer looks like 23.

Perhaps.

Professor Gac had the correct answer.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

63. Haha... Totally get it! You're a trouper Codifer! Thanks

for playing puzzle game. Gonna DM you next time I see one !

[Codifer]

52. Ah hell.

I missed the shoes on the boy.

Professor Gac corrected this in his post so he remains correct.

I will go with whatever answer he wound up with.

[Fla Dem]

53. 1 shoe 5, / 1 person 5 /3 bouquets 6/ Total 16

[Lars39]

56. After much angst, we got 43

Husband said him holding the cones and wearing the shoes is like parentheses

[Jack the Greater]

60. Exactly

That operation is completed before any other, then the multiplication, and then the addition. Anyway, that's how I see it.

[Prairie_Seagull]

58. Come on Laura, How long are you going to make us wait?

Do you know the answer now?

i need a xanax and some aspirin.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

64. Lol. Sorry last time I posted puzzle got blasted

For saying wrong answer. So paranoid. Supposedly the solution on this is 43. No authority that says that . Just works.

One shoe ( 10/2) = 5

+

((Guy = +5
+ Holding 2 fish n chips = +4
+ Wearing sneakers = +10)
Totals 19

x


2 ( half a fish n chip))


= (38+5) = 43

[Prairie_Seagull]

75. Thank you Laura, I had a blast. Please no calls from the DoD or NSA.

[Prairie_Seagull]

77. "Thank you ma'am may I have another",,, To soon? nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

78. You're the brainiac!:) Let's take turns. I'll play!!!

[First Speaker]

62. I get 60...

...but I'm lousy at this sort of thing...

[friend of a friend]

79. 1 shoe 5, 1 boy5,1 cone2

There is 1 shoe (5)+1 boy(5)+2 shoes(10) on boy+2 cones(4) held by boy+1 cone(2). 5+5+10+4+2=26