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Mine: Where in the US, immediately following the end of the Civil War, was slavery still legal? No Googling
Sanity Claws
(22,413 posts)Guess because Emancipation Proclamation applied only to states in rebellion, IIRC
Sneederbunk
(17,495 posts)EYESORE 9001
(29,732 posts)but the comments following some of those articles tells me that white supremacists have way too much time on their hands.
Sneederbunk
(17,495 posts)And it is not a white supremicist book.
EYESORE 9001
(29,732 posts)I landed on a blog with several slavery-related topics and the comments were from white supremacists.
GP6971
(38,015 posts)dweller
(28,411 posts)✌🏻
applegrove
(132,217 posts)FakeNoose
(41,634 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,495 posts)unc70
(6,501 posts)NJ, for example. Slavery was still legal until the ratifications of the 13th and 14th amendments -- Dec 1865 and July 1868. The Emancipation Proclamation affected only the states in rebellion, those that had joined the confederacy.
claudette
(5,455 posts)Texas?
claudette
(5,455 posts)is Juneteenth celebrated?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth
Sneederbunk
(17,495 posts)It was not the date of emancipation.
claudette
(5,455 posts)the info at that link it doesnt say that.
June" and "nineteenth", as it is celebrated on the anniversary of June 19, 1865, when in the wake of the American Civil War, Major General Gordon Granger ordered the final enforcement of the Emancipation Proclamation in Texas
sdfernando
(6,084 posts)How about Washington D.C., since it is not a state??
Sneederbunk
(17,495 posts)Glorfindel
(10,175 posts)"Border" states where slavery was legal, but didn't secede from the union.
Sneederbunk
(17,495 posts)Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)FakeNoose
(41,634 posts)Missouri didn't join the Confederacy, even though it was a borderline state. And it was one of the last slave states to be admitted to the Union, despite the fact that only a few counties that actually had slavery. (I think it was because of tobacco crops.)
I was actually born in Saint Louis, MO and when to grade school there, so I did learn some history. Apparently I haven't forgotten all of it yet.
Sucha NastyWoman
(3,019 posts)Or was it illegal, just that black people didnt know that?
Sneederbunk
(17,495 posts)bottomofthehill
(9,390 posts)I think Texas and Delaware both has slavery after the civil was. There is an Underground Railroad tour in MD and DE that talked about slavery after the Civil War. It was pretty well documented on the tour. And TX because of the Juneteen celebration.
Historic NY
(40,037 posts)where whites are superior to the black folks. The same one that dead last in the state rankings. the Gov is Tator its not hasrd to figure it out
Sneederbunk
(17,495 posts)debm55
(60,620 posts)Elessar Zappa
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debm55
(60,620 posts)debm55
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(17,495 posts)GP6971
(38,015 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,495 posts)Yes, some Native-Americans owned black slaves. It was a factor in some tribes supporting and fighting for the Confederacy. Banning slavery on the reservations was not finalized by treaty until 1866. Interestingly, some former slaves (Buffalo Soldiers) participated in the genocide of Native-Americans. History is not for sissies.
GP6971
(38,015 posts)sdfernando
(6,084 posts)as Indian Reservations.
WhiteTara
(31,260 posts)I did not know that Native Americans had black slaves. Thanks for another fact not taught in American History.
wnylib
(26,017 posts)usually a temporary condition of servitude brought about in various ways. In some cultures, a person who was destitute would offer servitude in return for support, but eventually earned freedom again. In some cases it was the servitude of captives taken in war until they became acclimated to the language and customs of the new tribe as a tribal member. Then they were accepted as full members.
It was Christian missionaries who introduced race-based, permanent enslavement of Africans as a buy and sell trade. Some tribal members among the Cherokee opposed that slave practice. Before their removal to the West, the Cherokee people wrote a constitution for themselves. They agreed that slavery was wrong, but wealthy, land-owning Cherokee families continued to have slaves. Cherokee slaves were able to intermarry into the tribe and to even hold some offices in tribal government. If they gained their freedom and chose to stay with the tribe, they had full tribal membership. But any form of slavery is still a lack of complete freedom.
I don't remember their names now, but I read that some of the Cherokee tribal leaders said that they believed that their removal and loss of lands was a punishment by their spirit ancestors or the Creator for having allowed slavery. At the time of removal, White society gave Black slaves of the Cherokee an option to stay behind or go with the tribe. Most chose to go with the tribe since their only options were enslavement to Whites or enslavement to the Cherokee. Some chose to stay behind because they had family with White slave owners.
There are many African American of mixed ancestry with Native Americans. Some are due to enslavement among Native tribes like the Cherokee. But some mixed ancestry is due to escaped slaves going to live in tribes where they were adopted as members. That's especially true of the Seminole in Florida.
There were also many Native Americans enslaved by White colonists. In colonies and later, states, Native people captured in war were sold into slavery, often to the Caribbean sugar plantations. In the southern coastal colonies, White slave traders stirred up wars between tribes in order to gain captives to sell locally or to the Caribbean. That was why the Tuscarora tribe in the Carolinas moved north to join the Iroquois League. They were being forced into slavery wars. Tuscarora culture and language are Iroquoian so the League accepted them as their 6th tribal member.
yellowdogintexas
(23,694 posts)mother's side from Chief Joe Vann, a very wealthy landowner Cherokee in the NE Alabama/NW Georgia area. His ancestral home is near Dalton Ga and has been restored; is now a state monument.
Chief Joe Vann definitely owned slaves; well documented in state records and family lore.
There is no doubt in my mind that there were other land owning Indian tribes with slaves.
lots of good stuff if you search Google. https://gastateparks.org/ChiefVannHouse By the way, the home is in Marjorie Three Toes district
debm55
(60,620 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,328 posts)usonian
(25,325 posts)Without looking anything up, nor the answers above.
Slavery is legal in prisons.
Otta be changed.
Am I right or am I right .... uh, wrong?