OMG. Just had weird conversation with anti vaxxer.

[wnylib]

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There's a clerk at a nearby convenience store that I sometimes chat with when she's not busy. Seems nice and average intelligence.

I just came home from the store. The subject of the latest vaccine came up. She said no way was she getting it and had never had any of the covid shots. I asked how many times she had covid and she said only once, and it was a mild case. Then she said that it probably was only the flu and not covid, so I asked if she tested for it. She said yes, she did the home test, so the positive result didn't really mean that she had covid because her doctor told her that the covid home test detects any virus.

I said that the covid test is designed specifically for covid in order to rule out other viruses like the flu, but she insisted that her doctor told her that covid tests do not distinguish between covid and any other virus. I said I'd get a second opinion from another doctor.

Then she said that the covid vaccines are not safe because you don't know what "they" put in the vaccines. She understood so little about DNA and RNA that I decided it was not worth trying to explain it to her. So I just said that, from my high school and college biology courses, I trust the vaccines and feel safe with them.

Then she said, "But what about the microchips that 'they' put into the vaccines? 'They' can track you wherever you go and everything you do." It was so off the wall and unexpected that I burst out laughing. She looked a bit sheepish so I said that I thought she was smarter than to believe something like that. I also said that I'd heard of people who believed that microchip nonsense but she was the first person that I'd actually heard say that face to face.

She got another customer then so the conversation ended. So much for me thinking that she had average intelligence.

Can't blame US schools for her lack of knowledge and critical reasoning. She was born in Canada and grew up there. Her father is American so she has dual citizenship but went to school in Ontario.

[TC 1]

1. How many watts do those chips put out

And

How many kilometers can they transmit

Sincerely,

Your friend

Q Bit

[Delphinus]

12. Welcome to DU!

[TC 1]

13. Ty but just getting new life and new phone sorted out

Tetrachloride

[gay texan]

16. 100 watts of RF

Will sting a bit, lol

[doc03]

2. If she has dual citizenship ask her where she gets her healthcare. If you are near

Canada I bet that is where she goes. I met a guy from Detroit that is a MAGA and is against Obamacare
calling it socialism but goes to Canada for his healthcare.

[Rebl2]

30. Good lord

What does he think Canadian healthcare system is 😖.

[liberal N proud]

3. My brother claims the Covid vaccine gave him cancer

[Voltaire2]

4. People with phones that really do track you,

and on multiple levels, worried about nonexistent ‘microchip tracking devices’ in vaccines.

[wnylib]

7. I thought about that, too. If we had not been interrupted by

a new customer, I was ready to tell her that she has more to worry about from her phone than from vaccines.

[paleotn]

14. Seriously. Unbelievable.

As Ed Tom Bell said in No Country for Old Men...."You can't make up such a thing as that. I dare you to even try."

[SCantiGOP]

24. re Tracking:

Reminds me of a social media post a while back where a guy was raising hell about a proposal for gun purchases to require that a record with photo be made of the sale.
He said that would mean that the government could then share your picture with other agencies and that was a clear violation of our right to privacy.
The first comment was, “I wonder what this guy will do when he finds out about drivers licenses.”

[Skittles]

36. they're always active and open on social media too

and they worry about "privacy"

these people are stupid beyond belief

[Shermann]

5. I recall the really early covid tests could get a false positive from common coronaviruses

I believe they have that solved; she is probably clinging to outdated information.

It isn't much good to just inject somebody with a chip, it has to be a nanobot complete with an antenna, power supply, and some kind of structural support. Those fine-gauge vaccine needles have an inside diameter of only a few tenths of a millimeter, so good luck with that!

[wnylib]

8. That's probably what she heard early on from her doctor and never

learned that the current tests are accurate.

But there is no way that I believe that she never had covid since she never was vaccinated and is opposed to masks, too. During the peak periods of the various mutation waves (original virus, delta, omicron), my county was among the highest in the state (besides NYC) in cases and hospitalizations.

[spooky3]

25. I believe the home tests have few false positives but more false

Negatives. My doctor’s ofc said they were accurate when I caught it and needed Paxlovid. They recommended that if you have symptoms, test multiple times.

[lapfog_1]

6. you should tell her ( if you bother )

that

a) They don't MAKE microchips that can be tracked from afar that would be small enough to fit through a needle in a solution.

b) Physics do not allow, at present, for a radio signal to be generated from a device that small that would reach a receiver more than a few feet away... and batteries to power ( or the technology to extract the energy from our own bodies, thus eliminating the need for batteries ).

and

c) Why bother doing this? "They" already make a device that not only can be accurately tracked, but is ACTIVELY tracking you, stays in touch with a geo location service using a literally dozens of satellites to fix your location and not only do YOU make sure it is charged all the time to respond to tracking your location, it powers a signal that communicate that location to "Them" many times every minute of the day and night. And YOU pay for this. It's right there in your pocket. And YOU are so addicted to using it you never even consider taking the battery out so it cannot do these things when "They" want to find out where you are or where you have been.

[Saoirse9]

9. We have a deadly serious mental health crisis in this country

I don't know how to help these people. Where I live I feel like I am surrounded by lunatics.

[Maraya1969]

10. My microchip lets me pack knives in my pants and go through airport security without a hitch

[momta]

20. Ooooh. I want one of those!

I had to forfeit my favorite manicure set at the airport about 20 years ago because I forgot to take it out of my purse.

[Evolve Dammit]

11. we are so fucked. Sigh.

[calimary]

15. I know how you feel, my friend.

The Stupid is WAAAAY too strong and too prevalent out there already. God help us all.

[Evolve Dammit]

23. I've witnessed 4 violent acts by TOTAL assholes in the last couple months. It's unraveling and the

GOP loves it. All un-provoked and just being violent assholes. Make that 5. One was a 20 something attacking a homeless person until I intervened. Unreal.

[calimary]

35. Well, if it's ANY consolation, DU is here.

I've found it to be a good companion when things seem more challenging than usual. It's a good group that's here.

And I like to remind myself about something DUer Skittles once said - that's seriously kept me buoyed up during glum moments: "Someone's always here." And it's the truth.

[LoisB]

27. I haven't given up on the entire human race yet but it is becoming more difficult every day.

[KJohnson]

17. Microchips? Should have told her cell phones have microchips & GPS

[paleotn]

18. Well, if anyone's tracking me....

by my cellphone or some super magic vaccine toting micro plastic chip thingies, they're so bored by this point they're contemplating suicide.

[Historic NY]

19. Maybe she thinks the vet is going to microchip her, too late she's lost.

I tell people they have to get a dial cell phone .

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/engineer-makes-cell-phone-with-rotary-dial/

]

[gristy]

31. :)

👍

[Sucha NastyWoman]

21. Telling her you thought she was smarter than that isn't helpful

And if people think you don’t respect their intelligence, they think there’s something wrong with you not them

[kwijybo]

22. Is there such a thing as a "normal" conversation with people like that?

I've not had one. Once "vaccines" or "viruses" are brought up, they dive into the deep end of the pool before they realize they can't swim.

[scarletlib]

26. Ask her if she has a cellphone. Those really track you.

[Major Nikon]

28. Many if not most anti-vaxxers are fringe nuts

Talking to them is like trying to talk to a streetcorner preacher.

[patphil]

29. Although we aren't quite there yet, we're getting close.

This chip is tiny, but not quite invisible.
Also, it's functionality is quite limited.

https://newatlas.com/electronics/worlds-smallest-single-chip-system-injectable/

[debm55]

32. My neighbor told me as a Catholic that I am going to burn in hell because vaccines contain aborted

"babies" I had all five and will get the next one on Saturday. I will need to see if my covid is gone. It was a week on Thursday.

[Aristus]

33. It's possible she just embraces the dumb shit in order to

maintain her US citizenship.

[PlutosHeart]

34. You could have helped her out

by agreeing that someone wants to put chips in her. HIs name is Musk.

[Warpy]

37. Undoubtedly she prides herself on researching all this stuff thoroughly

on Fakebook. I hope Zuckerberg enjoys being reminded of all the people his greed killed because he wouldn't alter his precious algorithm that provided a megaphone for sensationalist kooks while reducing real information to a whisper. Asshole.

If the schools needed to teach anything, it was how to tell a good source from a bad one. That might have helped a lot of otherwise sensible people out there avoid the garbage like Fakebook and try the CDC instead. It doesn't matter where people were born or went to school, they're shit at explaining this stuff and kids really need to learn it.

Had she been taught that much, there would have been no need to explain RNA or how a PCR machine works or how and why the mRNA vaccines were different and how they worked. She'd know from a primary source that the vaccine had been tested for nearly a year and was proven both safe and effective at preventing severe disease.

And she wouldn't sound like such a complete idiot.

[GP6971]

38. Locking.

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