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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:14 PM Sep 2023

Winner of largest powerball in history criticized for extravagant purchases..

Some say he will be broke in 5 years..others say " enjoy". 🤔


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Edwin Castro, 31, scooped up $2.04 billion in a California lottery last year and became an overnight billionaire, adding $997.6 million to his account after coming forward to collect the lump sum payment.


He has since invested in real estate, buying two multimillion-dollar mansions in California in just one month — a $25.5 million estate in the Hollywood Hills, shortly followed by a $4 million mansion with views of the San Gabriel Mountains.

Now, Castro has splurged on his most expensive property yet, adding a $47 million mansion in Bel Air to the mix.

The new home, set on a 4700-square-metre block, has seven bedrooms and 11 bathrooms.

But financial planners have, classing the three homes — as well as a vintage Porsche 911 he’s been seen driving to and from the bank — as “terrible” purchases.

Financial advisers typically recommend that winners collect their large lottery payouts through annual payments, rather than the lump sump Castro sprung for.

Financial advisers also recommend that lottery winners or anyone else coming into a large amount of wealth consult with a financial planner, tax lawyer, or other expert to create a plan, according to Fortune.

“Don’t make any visible life changes. Don’t quit your job, don’t go out and buy a Ferrari, don’t buy a mansion,” Emily Irwin, managing director of advice and planning at Wells Fargo’s investing and wealth management division, told the publication.

“Maybe you have student loans you want to pay off, that makes sense. But try to avoid that mega-purchase.”


https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/buying/billionaire-powerball-winner-edwin-castros-terrible-buy-73-million-la-mansion/news-story/3e1598ff5ca37a9f0685143ed2a5eb46

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Winner of largest powerball in history criticized for extravagant purchases.. (Original Post) Demovictory9 Sep 2023 OP
That has to be from The Onion. ZZenith Sep 2023 #1
not to worry onethatcares Sep 2023 #14
Now that we've gotten the snark out of the way.... brooklynite Sep 2023 #15
Yeah, taking financial advice from Wells Fargo is SO sensible. ZZenith Sep 2023 #17
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA justaprogressive Sep 2023 #22
winners are harrassed to no end by family, scammers, beggars and more. their lives are hell nt msongs Sep 2023 #2
That's why you go off the grid. roamer65 Oct 2023 #27
Spend the money how he wants rpannier Sep 2023 #3
Absolutely. rubbersole Sep 2023 #9
I would not consider California real estate to be a Demobrat Sep 2023 #4
Many lottery winners are bankrupt within a few years. Ocelot II Sep 2023 #5
Set up a trust fund that'll give you $100k per year then donate the rest to charities captain queeg Sep 2023 #6
That's kind of how we'd think, but then we are old. Family first, then charities & endowments... Hekate Sep 2023 #19
I'd hate to live in a mansion jmbar2 Sep 2023 #7
This article reads like an advertisement for business. TexasTowelie Sep 2023 #8
I wonder what advice they give to their wealthy clients who are not lottery niyad Sep 2023 #10
the 'advice' doled out here is laughable stopdiggin Sep 2023 #11
I play one of the lotteries Marthe48 Sep 2023 #12
I remember one comedian saying Conjuay Oct 2023 #30
🤗 Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2023 #13
Maybe He Should Invest Deep State Witch Sep 2023 #16
Ha ha. Clarence is pretty pricey Demovictory9 Sep 2023 #18
I used to think we had the best Congress money could buy. roamer65 Oct 2023 #28
I would not take lump sum XanaDUer2 Sep 2023 #20
I'm 66 TexasBushwhacker Sep 2023 #21
Not smart. LudwigPastorius Sep 2023 #23
He won 2 billion. Left with 1 billion after taxes Demovictory9 Sep 2023 #24
Nope. $2 Billion would have been paid over 30 years TexasBushwhacker Oct 2023 #31
That works out to less than 10 percent of his winnings jmowreader Oct 2023 #25
Don't quit your job... roamer65 Oct 2023 #26
Avoid using Emily Irwin as your financial advisor/planner. Sogo Oct 2023 #29

ZZenith

(4,476 posts)
1. That has to be from The Onion.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:18 PM
Sep 2023

Wells Fargo doesn’t think a man with 997.6 MILLION DOLLARS should be buying Porsches and mansions? They should be keeping it in their Wells Fargo account, amIrite?

onethatcares

(17,010 posts)
14. not to worry
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 12:01 PM
Sep 2023

Wells Fargo will open a line of credit for him that he won't know about..........

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
15. Now that we've gotten the snark out of the way....
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 12:34 PM
Sep 2023

Wells Fargo and other banks have financial advisers who can and do offer sensible planning advice. And the lottery winner is not exhibiting that sensible behavior.

ZZenith

(4,476 posts)
17. Yeah, taking financial advice from Wells Fargo is SO sensible.
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 02:55 PM
Sep 2023


I can’t even.

If this dude holds back even just one percent of his windfall, he will still have a ten million dollar rainy day fund to finance the rest of his life, not to mention all his real estate holdings. I realize that’s chump change in your circles but for everyone else it would be more than adequate.

msongs

(74,165 posts)
2. winners are harrassed to no end by family, scammers, beggars and more. their lives are hell nt
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:18 PM
Sep 2023

rpannier

(24,955 posts)
3. Spend the money how he wants
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:20 PM
Sep 2023

Even if he loses it all, it was money he didn't have.
At least with property, he can sell that

Demobrat

(10,310 posts)
4. I would not consider California real estate to be a
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:21 PM
Sep 2023

terrible purchase at all. He’s not blowing it at Caesar’s Palace.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
6. Set up a trust fund that'll give you $100k per year then donate the rest to charities
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:29 PM
Sep 2023

Before it ruins your life.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
19. That's kind of how we'd think, but then we are old. Family first, then charities & endowments...
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 02:49 AM
Sep 2023

… especially local ones.


jmbar2

(8,166 posts)
7. I'd hate to live in a mansion
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:34 PM
Sep 2023

The expenses would be endless and it would feel like walking around a shopping mall after closing time.

TexasTowelie

(128,150 posts)
8. This article reads like an advertisement for business.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:35 PM
Sep 2023
“Don’t make any visible life changes. Don’t quit your job, don’t go out and buy a Ferrari, don’t buy a mansion,” Emily Irwin, managing director of advice and planning at Wells Fargo’s investing and wealth management division, told the publication.

It is apparent that Ms. Irwin has personal and professional motives for her unsolicited advice.

I'm in my late fifties with chronic health issues and a diminished life expectancy. There are only a few relatives or causes that I would consider leaving money to. In my situation it certainly makes more sense to take the lump sum rather than distribute the payments over multiple years. If I ever were to win a huge jackpot I would set aside money for the future, but I wouldn't hire Ms. Irwin for advice.

In addition, while Mr. Castro spending money on a vehicle may be extravagant (a few hundredths of a percent), the purchase of the property is an investment that may generate its own profit in the future. With the expenses listed above, he has put less than 8% of his windfall into real estate and still has a significant amount of money to invest so he shouldn't ever have any financial concerns for the rest of his life.

niyad

(133,988 posts)
10. I wonder what advice they give to their wealthy clients who are not lottery
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:42 PM
Sep 2023

winners.

I have a very detailed plan for what I would do if I ever won a LARGE sum of money, aan it does not include taking advice from them. Hmmmm. .I am being told that one actually has to PURHASE tickets in order to win?? Who came up with that silly rule??? And if that is the case, why do I keep getting emails and calls about wonderful prizes I have won, in contests I never entered.

stopdiggin

(15,632 posts)
11. the 'advice' doled out here is laughable
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 02:03 AM
Sep 2023

Almost insulting. This 'keep your job, don't buy a car, make a plan' might make sense if you are talking someone who suddenly bagged 1 or 200 thou. Somebody who took home close to a billion in a lump sum? And they're suppose to 'be cautious, and keep their job'? Ludicrous!

Marthe48

(23,424 posts)
12. I play one of the lotteries
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 08:02 AM
Sep 2023

I have a list of who I'd share with. Last time there was a big lottery jackpot, I had fun with math. If I won 500 million dollars and gave $100,000.00 to each person on my list, it would be super hard to spend 5 million.

Any time the jackpot gets huge, I like to think about what I'd actually do.

Conjuay

(3,105 posts)
30. I remember one comedian saying
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 06:32 PM
Oct 2023

“I wouldn’t quit my job if I won the lottery, but I’d go into work the next day with an entirely different attitude!”

Deep State Witch

(12,755 posts)
16. Maybe He Should Invest
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 01:11 PM
Sep 2023

In buying a Senator or Congressperson? I'm guessing that he might have enough to buy a Supreme Court Justice?

roamer65

(37,974 posts)
28. I used to think we had the best Congress money could buy.
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 06:59 PM
Oct 2023

But definitely after today, I think we are getting the shaft.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,283 posts)
21. I'm 66
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 02:48 PM
Sep 2023

If I had to take it for myself, I would take lump sum, but if I could have it put into a trust, then I would have it pay out over 30 years. Then I could have the trust pay me enough to be very comfortable for the rest of my life, as well as my brother and my niece. Then when I die, the control of the trust would go to my brother and niece.

LudwigPastorius

(14,988 posts)
23. Not smart.
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 11:55 PM
Sep 2023

He'll owe about 40% of that in federal taxes right off the bat.

That leaves him with $600 million, and he just spent $76 million of that on three houses, on which, he'll be paying annual property taxes.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,283 posts)
31. Nope. $2 Billion would have been paid over 30 years
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 06:35 PM
Oct 2023

He took the cash option, which is about half. Then income taxes come off that. He's a fairly young man. He should have taken the 30 year payout.

jmowreader

(53,388 posts)
25. That works out to less than 10 percent of his winnings
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 06:40 PM
Oct 2023

Take all three properties and put them on VRBO at $2000 a night, and you've got a nice fat continuing income stream. If he only keeps them occupied 250 nights per year, you're looking at $1.5 million per year in passive income.

roamer65

(37,974 posts)
26. Don't quit your job...
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 06:52 PM
Oct 2023


Fuck that bullshit.


Right now I’d invest most of it in Treasury bill-based money market funds. Live off the 5 percent interest.

Sogo

(7,300 posts)
29. Avoid using Emily Irwin as your financial advisor/planner.
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 05:20 PM
Oct 2023

She doesn't seem to have any idea how much money $997.6 million is.....

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