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blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 01:15 PM Sep 2012

Why do companies do credit checks on potential new employees?

I think it's BS.

If someone owes money, they obviously need a freaking job.

Sure, do a background check, but a credit check as well????

My guy is currently employed, but is looking around. He has some "bumps in the road" on his credit....if it affects the chance that he could be hired, I am gonna be really pissed.

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Why do companies do credit checks on potential new employees? (Original Post) blueamy66 Sep 2012 OP
They're only looking for people who don't need the job. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #1
oh, okay, gotcha blueamy66 Sep 2012 #2
It depends on the job being applied for Generic Brad Sep 2012 #3
I can see if he was asking for a bank job.... blueamy66 Sep 2012 #6
It's just another flaming hoop to make applicants jump through in a tight job market Populist_Prole Sep 2012 #4
Exactly. blueamy66 Sep 2012 #5
+1 fbguy_144 Sep 2012 #29
It's not a recent development - over twenty years ago csziggy Sep 2012 #40
sometimes they say that, but don't run it MrsBrady Sep 2012 #7
Here's what you need to know about it Major Nikon Sep 2012 #8
interesting....than\k you for the info.... blueamy66 Sep 2012 #10
I was told they would run a credit check on me to work at the library LishaD35 Sep 2012 #9
but why? blueamy66 Sep 2012 #11
Yes, that was my plan, LishaD35 Sep 2012 #15
Interestingly, libraries are one of the few fields where I've been told they always run the reports. Chan790 Sep 2012 #32
Thanks for the info. LishaD35 Sep 2012 #41
I've posted this before: And what happens if someone's identity is stolen... BlueJazz Sep 2012 #12
it just seems like "you" cannot win anymore blueamy66 Sep 2012 #13
I just bought a car NV Whino Sep 2012 #14
You are kidding me, right?? blueamy66 Sep 2012 #16
Yep NV Whino Sep 2012 #17
Did you walk out? blueamy66 Sep 2012 #18
No, I bought the car NV Whino Sep 2012 #21
A friend of mine years ago AmyDeLune Sep 2012 #19
they want a credit check and your yearly income, etc...because... yawnmaster Sep 2012 #20
Yeah, we already agreed on the price NV Whino Sep 2012 #22
There's a few states pushing to make this illegal. Initech Sep 2012 #23
Good, cause it serves no purpose IMHO blueamy66 Sep 2012 #25
I completely agreed there. Initech Sep 2012 #26
Some of the reasoning used is that a person under financial stress Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #24
Well, he is being garnished....but is that wrong? blueamy66 Sep 2012 #27
Don't think that being garnished to pay child support even rings the bell. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #28
well, he's current and has been paying.... blueamy66 Sep 2012 #30
It's just one more way to keep the poor poor. harmonicon Sep 2012 #31
That's the way I see it, too Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #42
the same reason they piss test ditch diggers Kali Sep 2012 #33
true that blueamy66 Sep 2012 #34
Well, he's officially been released to work again at his current job as of today blueamy66 Sep 2012 #35
Any data is helpful when hiring and sometimes required ksoze Sep 2012 #36
but what about the "little guy/gal" who has had a tough life and is trying to turn it around? blueamy66 Sep 2012 #37
I've been following this thread in the hopes of a good outcome. Do let us know. Populist_Prole Sep 2012 #38
Thank you soooo much. blueamy66 Sep 2012 #39

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
3. It depends on the job being applied for
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:37 PM
Sep 2012

If you are hiring someone who will be responsible for managing your company's money, then it makes sense. That could be risky for the company. But for the majority of jobs out there I don't think it should be necessary.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
6. I can see if he was asking for a bank job....
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:03 PM
Sep 2012

I guess I can see your point. But like you stated, for the majority of jobs, it really isn't necessary.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
4. It's just another flaming hoop to make applicants jump through in a tight job market
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:38 PM
Sep 2012

They're picky and want you to know it.

Same reason some don't like unmarried people. Or older people. Or why they want you to take those idiotic Myers-Briggs "tests" to weed out everybody but the hand-pumping, palm pressing phonies with that winning smile.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
5. Exactly.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:01 PM
Sep 2012

He's not too old, but in his early 50s...don't know if that matters.

Some of those "tests" are 100+ questions. To manage a Taco Bell? Really?

I think he's got this job in the bag....if he does get hired, I will be in Seventh Heaven....no more traveling, great opportunity for advancement, alot of perks and exposure and a good salary.

Asking for good vibes!

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
40. It's not a recent development - over twenty years ago
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:11 PM
Sep 2012

A business my husband applied to work for wanted not only to credit check him but they wanted a financial statement both for him and for me as his spouse. I refused to let him complete the application. It was my husband's decision if he wanted to give out his own information but the company had no right to know anything about my financial status since *I* was not applying for a job!

MrsBrady

(4,187 posts)
7. sometimes they say that, but don't run it
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 05:05 PM
Sep 2012

it scares some people off.

I would just apply and not worry about it.
The company may not actually spend the money to run the report.
It costs the company money to do that.

I worked as a recruiter, and my company only ran that
stuff after someone was hired or chosen...
if they ran it at all.
I thought they ran background check and credit, etc...but they didn't.

The company might run it, but it's possible they won't.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
8. Here's what you need to know about it
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:47 PM
Sep 2012

If a company runs a credit check on an employee, that employee has a right to know if that information was used adversely against them per the Fair Credit Report Act. I don't remember if they have to give this information to you, or you have to request it. Either way it's available.

Because of this, many companies will not run credit checks on all prospective employees. The reason is because if an employer doesn't have a good reason for excluding employees based on their credit, they can run into problems with prospective employees filing civil rights complaints since minorities often have worse credit than non-minorities.

LishaD35

(40 posts)
9. I was told they would run a credit check on me to work at the library
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:01 PM
Sep 2012

in the art, music,and media department.

My credit is not that good right now, but I figured that if I said no they wouldn't consider me.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
11. but why?
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:31 PM
Sep 2012

are you gonna steal some books and sell them to pay your debts?

Makes me want to move to Alaska and tend bar in some dark, unpopulated place.....

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
32. Interestingly, libraries are one of the few fields where I've been told they always run the reports.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:40 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:11 AM - Edit history (1)

Also, many people don't know this...libraries are allowed to report excessive late fees and non-returned materials to credit-bureaus; I learned that when I lost a copy of Ulysses from the Philadelphia Free Library and took my time reporting it or paying for it because I was destitute and moving back into my parent's attic.

That ended up being a funny story, I called them irate when I saw it years after I paid them on my credit report and ended up having a long conversation about applying to their library-sciences graduate program because it's a free Masters of Library Science degree...you work in the library while going to their school for 3 years and agree to work for them for like 5 years post-graduation as a librarian. They take like 4 people a year.

The reason they run the reports at the library is actually exactly the reason you've cite though...most libraries have things like special collections, CD/DVD centers, rare book rooms, etc...people with bad credit are more likely to be people who do things because they need money like take home DVDs to make copies to sell (library copies are typically different than retail versions and are often traceable...the way the library usually determines who the pirate is is via borrowing records so untrustworthy staffers take them off-the-system to copy. If the library cannot determine who pirated the film, some jurisdictions allow them to be held liable for the fines and damages); steal computers, rare books or antiquities (from the special collections); "fix" people's lost-book records for bribes; also it's not uncommon for all staffers at a library to be a key-holder. So it might seem unfair but having bad credit is often a sign of irresponsibility...less so now than in the mid-90s when I lost Philly Free Library's copy of Ulysses.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
12. I've posted this before: And what happens if someone's identity is stolen...
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:36 PM
Sep 2012

(as a lady I know now).

Her credit is shot through no fault of her own.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
14. I just bought a car
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:53 PM
Sep 2012

For cash. (Not that I'm that rich, but I got a good insurance settlement from an accident.) Damn fool salesman wanted to run a credit check. I did let him only because I knew it would be good.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
17. Yep
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:42 PM
Sep 2012

He also asked for my yearly income. I told him it had no relevance to our transaction.

AmyDeLune

(1,846 posts)
19. A friend of mine years ago
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:07 AM
Sep 2012

bought something small and inexpensive from Radio Shack. She paid cash and the clerk asked her for ID. She refused, saying "It's CASH!"


splenning

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
20. they want a credit check and your yearly income, etc...because...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:18 AM
Sep 2012

then they know how much you have and it becomes a negotiation tool.
(unless you already negotiated a price for the car, then I have no idea why they wanted it)

Always negotiate price before filling out any of their bs forms.

Initech

(108,778 posts)
23. There's a few states pushing to make this illegal.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:41 AM
Sep 2012

I think California has been working on legislation as well as New York and a couple of other states.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
24. Some of the reasoning used is that a person under financial stress
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:54 AM
Sep 2012

might be more likely to steal from an employer.

At least, that is the rationale I heard from a couple of HR sources.


And that means more than just a couple of late payments here and there.

The stuff they want to find out is if the prospective employee has large outstanding credit balances, repossessions, garnishments, judgments, bankruptcies, that kind of thing.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
27. Well, he is being garnished....but is that wrong?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:18 AM
Sep 2012

He's got a kid. Are they gonna fault him for paying child support?

I doubt this new company will do a credit check....she just threw it out there...he told her that he pays support...

We shall see.....

My guy said that she was cute and that she liked him....he cleans up good

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
28. Don't think that being garnished to pay child support even rings the bell.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:22 AM
Sep 2012

In many states, that's how it's done from the get-go, anyway.

NOT paying child support might, however.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
30. well, he's current and has been paying....
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:31 AM
Sep 2012

so not gonna be a problem...just hope the job comes thru and these "background" checks are okay

it is tough these days.....

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
31. It's just one more way to keep the poor poor.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:55 AM
Sep 2012

That's how I see it at least. I know people give other reasons, but they don't ring true.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
42. That's the way I see it, too
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:40 PM
Sep 2012

Just another hoop for poor people to try to jump through, and when (if) you finally get a minimum wage job, you better appreciate it, dammit!

Kali

(56,829 posts)
33. the same reason they piss test ditch diggers
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:12 PM
Sep 2012

because they can

surely you don't expect to be treated with dignity and respect, do you? you should learn to LIKE being treated like a criminal for no reason.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
35. Well, he's officially been released to work again at his current job as of today
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:53 PM
Sep 2012

Yee Haw!

But if he gets an offer from the "new" job, he's taking it!

Kinda happy here in AZ.....Amy

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
36. Any data is helpful when hiring and sometimes required
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:03 PM
Sep 2012

Sorry, but hiring is something that is taken with as much seriousness by the employer as the prospective employee. Credit and criminal checks are also sometimes required for workers who may interface with schools and other areas which require this from the contractor. Every employer is looking for as much information as they can to help paint a picture of someone who they are going to make a financial commitment to. That could include looking at social media sites, etc. No one is looking to not hire someone, but to gain as much insight into the person as possible. The credit check can simply add to the overall picture of a candidate and alone is not a job killer for those whose credit is tricky. Bumps in the road credit wise should not hurt a prospective employee and his experience and personal effectiveness will trump any small credit issues.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
37. but what about the "little guy/gal" who has had a tough life and is trying to turn it around?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:14 PM
Sep 2012

are they just screwed?

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
38. I've been following this thread in the hopes of a good outcome. Do let us know.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:07 PM
Sep 2012

Work just isn't about income/money; it's about one's pride, their "heart" their need for self worth: and it damned should NOT depend on high-handed or whimsical desire to throw up brick walls in order for some jerkoff to feel he/she has the upper hand.

All the best.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
39. Thank you soooo much.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:04 PM
Sep 2012

You brough joy to my heart.

He's officially back to work, but, like I said, if he is offered the new job, he's definitely gonna take it. They seemed to really like him and if he gets to stay home and not travel....yee haw!

He does have pride....alot of it....and he has felt like crap for the last 3 months, not being able to work. He's been working since he was 14 years old. I don't think his relationship with his boss will ever be the same.

I'll keep you posted...and thanks again....

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