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CTyankee

(67,947 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:41 AM Mar 2024

Would you use "gift" as a verb?

Because I write about art, I notice how many times I have seen the word "gift" used as a verb in articles about donated art by rich families to museums. I wonder if this is OK for charitable gifts but not for use in other contexts.

Your thoughts?

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Would you use "gift" as a verb? (Original Post) CTyankee Mar 2024 OP
As in 'gifting' or 'gifted' calguy Mar 2024 #1
No. It's really irritating when used that way. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #2
Appears to be acceptable grammar Septua Mar 2024 #3
Yes, Gift is a Verb cbabe Mar 2024 #4
Yes, it is a bit affected. In terms of art donations, I think it elevates the donation a bit and sounds appropriately CTyankee Mar 2024 #7
That's what I love about English -- we can use nouns as verbs if we want to. fierywoman Mar 2024 #5
Very much dislike. NoRethugFriends Mar 2024 #6
what word would you use instead of grow in that context? CTyankee Mar 2024 #8
Never heard that one!! ailsagirl Mar 2024 #20
very big in the business world, which thankfully I'm retired from. NoRethugFriends Mar 2024 #23
Great news!! 👍👍 ailsagirl Apr 2024 #44
I don't but others do. I could care less. Wonder Why Mar 2024 #9
While we're at it, "could care less" suggests that you do care, Ocelot II Mar 2024 #26
You are correct! I couldn't care less. But I cared fore your reminder. Thanks. Wonder Why Mar 2024 #39
I have had to get used to a lot of jarring "acceptable changes" to grammar, spelling, pronunciation hlthe2b Mar 2024 #10
"Nucular" is older than GWB Gruenemann Apr 2024 #55
I am well aware.. But Merriam Webster only bowed to public pressure after GWB* was mocked widely... hlthe2b Apr 2024 #57
Baffled what the objection is unblock Mar 2024 #11
Not sure about that. Lots of charities use the word "give" and "giving" in their messaging, as in "charitable giving." CTyankee Mar 2024 #12
I'm not arguing against using "give". Just saying nothing's wrong with "gift" as a verb. unblock Mar 2024 #13
Good distinction. Hold that line. SarahD Mar 2024 #19
I'll leave you know. SarahD Mar 2024 #14
"He's a gifted person" shouldn't mean that he got new socks for his birthday. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2024 #15
The loss of gave and given Easterncedar Mar 2024 #16
Can we diaiogue about this? SarahD Mar 2024 #18
It's overused, IMO. I want to get away from something being "impactful, " too. What would you suggest? CTyankee Mar 2024 #31
They call me Little Miss Pedantic Language Person. SarahD Mar 2024 #17
I think saying "she is a gifted artist" is fine. Calling someone "gifted" is a nice compliment, IMO, if sincerely meant CTyankee Mar 2024 #21
No, I would not. sinkingfeeling Mar 2024 #22
i'm not comfortable using "gift" as a verb soldierant Mar 2024 #24
Don't Think I Have ProfessorGAC Mar 2024 #25
No but I'm slow, I missed the memo about it being ok to use "invite" as a noun. Croney Mar 2024 #27
Why not? Language is used by speakers and writers cachukis Mar 2024 #28
If I gift you by saying yes would you understand? randr Mar 2024 #29
Non! Mme. Defarge Mar 2024 #30
During the Valentine fund raiser on DU... PJMcK Mar 2024 #32
Nope. (nt) Paladin Mar 2024 #33
No, but it is a legitimate usage. malthaussen Mar 2024 #34
Donating art to museums involves lawyers, contracts, stipulations, rights, etc., it's not really freely 'gifted' Donkees Mar 2024 #35
Lend is all but extinct as a verb swimboy Mar 2024 #36
Never ever gave it as any thoughts till now. Now Emile Mar 2024 #37
I'm sorry... CTyankee Mar 2024 #38
Absolutely not. Not Heidi Mar 2024 #40
No, not "gift" by itself sakabatou Mar 2024 #41
It may be correct, but I'm not a fan of it being used that way. LudwigPastorius Mar 2024 #42
Oddly, I think "gift" is a noun, but "regift" is a verb. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2024 #43
Gift has a clear meaning than give, IMO. ntp AnnaLee Apr 2024 #45
Never. Paladin Apr 2024 #46
I would say it depends on the context, to be honest. OldBaldy1701E Apr 2024 #47
I've never gotten used to Mr.Bill Apr 2024 #48
CTyankee ... Upthevibe Apr 2024 #49
If you use it to describe an action, yes. Emile Apr 2024 #50
Are you a gifted child? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2024 #51
I would not use "gift" as a verb when speaking to wnylib Apr 2024 #52
Would you object to the usage as in: "He was a gifted musician"? CTyankee Apr 2024 #56
This door is alarmed Dear_Prudence Apr 2024 #58
Or, attach a note to the alarmed door sign requesting wnylib Apr 2024 #63
Per my post, it depends on whether I was speaking to wnylib Apr 2024 #62
Yikes! Dear_Prudence Apr 2024 #64
I would not Jilly_in_VA Apr 2024 #53
I wouldn't; I find it jarring. But I also wouldn't use "fellowship" as a verb, rsdsharp Apr 2024 #54
To be or not to be... Harker Apr 2024 #59
Per Merriam Webster ailsagirl Apr 2024 #60
Depends on the context. Dulcinea Apr 2024 #61

Ocelot II

(129,848 posts)
2. No. It's really irritating when used that way.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:47 AM
Mar 2024

What's wrong with "give" or "gave"? To say "He gifted a donation to the museum" is just grating. Why not use "gave," the existing verb?

Septua

(2,957 posts)
3. Appears to be acceptable grammar
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:48 AM
Mar 2024
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/gift-as-a-verb#:~:text=Gift%20as%20a%20verb%20has,an%20acceptable%20and%20efficient%20alternative.

Gift as a verb has a 400-year history of use and means “to present someone with a gift.” Some feel strongly that give is the correct word, but gift-as-a-verb is an acceptable and efficient alternative. Since the 1990s the word has surged in popularity, perhaps in part because of a well-known Seinfeld episode concerning “regifting” and “degifting.”


Nowadays, seems some people use all kinds of words in a manner not traditionally used; especially in politics, like 'woke'.

CTyankee

(67,947 posts)
7. Yes, it is a bit affected. In terms of art donations, I think it elevates the donation a bit and sounds appropriately
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:02 PM
Mar 2024

"classy" and graceful.

fierywoman

(8,549 posts)
5. That's what I love about English -- we can use nouns as verbs if we want to.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:59 AM
Mar 2024

I did something similar in Italian, in Italy, when speaking to a very progressive Italian friend -- he got very upset, barely able to spit out the words, "You can't do that!" In English we have the word, the concept of, "freedom." In Italian they only have "liberty." Enjoy your freedom to use gift as a verb -- or feel free not to.

Ocelot II

(129,848 posts)
26. While we're at it, "could care less" suggests that you do care,
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 08:14 PM
Mar 2024

because you're saying that you might possibly (could) care less than you do. Isn't the correct expression "couldn't care less," meaning you are at the rock bottom of caring so it is not possible for you to care any less?

hlthe2b

(113,297 posts)
10. I have had to get used to a lot of jarring "acceptable changes" to grammar, spelling, pronunciation
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:22 PM
Mar 2024

and newly created "words" in recent decades. Some doreally rankle me (as when Merriam Webster gave in to the Bushies* and included "NU-KU-Lar" as an alternative pronunciation for nuclear--just because GWB* and several others could not pronounce it.

So, I guess it gets filed under "pick your battles."

But in answer, "gifting" as a verb is not (for me) the most irritating noun newly accepted as a verb. Every few years another generation comes up with more examples and it falls to the rest of us to accept them--whether we want to or not. English is ever-changing. I am told the only language more rapidly changing is Japanese (I have a friend whose knowledge of her birth language stopped at age 5. Now she incites much laughter with her attempts to speak)

hlthe2b

(113,297 posts)
57. I am well aware.. But Merriam Webster only bowed to public pressure after GWB* was mocked widely...
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 03:26 PM
Apr 2024

bowing to RW pressure...

unblock

(56,103 posts)
11. Baffled what the objection is
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:22 PM
Mar 2024

"Gift" is unambiguously charity.

"Give" is not. It *can* refer to a gift, but it could imply an expectation (at least) of something in return.

For instance, here, let me give you my lawn mower, I'm moving into an apartment and won't need it any more. But if you're not using your bread maker anymore, I'd love to have fresh bread now and again.

Sure, context usually makes it clear, but why not have an unambiguous word for it?

Especially given the modern use of "regifting". Should we say regiving instead?

"Gifting" carries an implication that it's associated with an event such as a birthday, or a holiday. "Giving" does not.


CTyankee

(67,947 posts)
12. Not sure about that. Lots of charities use the word "give" and "giving" in their messaging, as in "charitable giving."
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:27 PM
Mar 2024

But of course they also say "make your charitable gift today to...."

 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
19. Good distinction. Hold that line.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:16 PM
Mar 2024

Gifting and giving are each appropriate in a particular circumstance, but I don't see them as absolute synonyms. I think you drew the line where it belongs.

Easterncedar

(5,869 posts)
16. The loss of gave and given
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:59 PM
Mar 2024

Is bothersome to me. I think when “donated” is the meaning, it’s a tad less annoying, but it’s so often just used, it seems, to avoid the irregular verb forms.

Like using “impact” as a verb to disguise your confusion between “affect” and “effect”.

CTyankee

(67,947 posts)
31. It's overused, IMO. I want to get away from something being "impactful, " too. What would you suggest?
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 01:52 AM
Mar 2024

Since I write about art, "impactful" is a word I could easily use a lot. I try to stay away from it. The late, great art critic Peter Sjeldahl for The New Yorker magazine wrote terrific art reviews. He never got past a sophomore year in college but he hated writing anything pretentiously and his reviews were terrific. I have every book of reviews he published.

 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
17. They call me Little Miss Pedantic Language Person.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:10 PM
Mar 2024

I try to keep quiet, but I sometimes correct my friends when they try to run the gauntlet or throw down the gamut. They invariably blow me off anyway. As you would expect, I am not in favor of using gift as a verb, except when speaking of birthday presents and such..

CTyankee

(67,947 posts)
21. I think saying "she is a gifted artist" is fine. Calling someone "gifted" is a nice compliment, IMO, if sincerely meant
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:12 PM
Mar 2024

soldierant

(9,305 posts)
24. i'm not comfortable using "gift" as a verb
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 06:19 PM
Mar 2024

but I do use "regift" as a verb - as in "If it doesn't work out, feel free to regift it."

cachukis

(3,772 posts)
28. Why not? Language is used by speakers and writers
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 08:30 PM
Mar 2024

long before dictionaries.
Ebonics is a much faster means of expression with those who use it.
Conversate is now in the dictionary because it's usage has been accepted by those who accept it.

PJMcK

(24,918 posts)
32. During the Valentine fund raiser on DU...
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:44 AM
Mar 2024

… I gifted you a heart for your posts.

It’s an appalling evolution, in my opinion. But there are so many misused and misunderstood words in use today that I can’t get too upset about it.

malthaussen

(18,503 posts)
34. No, but it is a legitimate usage.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:42 AM
Mar 2024

Goes back quite a few centuries. It fell out of fashion, and now it's back in fashion.

-- Mal

Donkees

(33,555 posts)
35. Donating art to museums involves lawyers, contracts, stipulations, rights, etc., it's not really freely 'gifted'
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:12 AM
Mar 2024

when there are negotiated strings attached on both sides.

LudwigPastorius

(14,411 posts)
42. It may be correct, but I'm not a fan of it being used that way.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 11:49 PM
Mar 2024

"Friend" is another one.

I'm not going to "friend" you, but I will "befriend" you.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,747 posts)
47. I would say it depends on the context, to be honest.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 11:45 AM
Apr 2024

I see it as being used as a verb when someone wants to describe how they got the donation, or whatever it being referred to. (Yeah yeah, preposition.) Saying whatever was 'gifted' means it was given to someone without reparation or favor. As in I gifted the museum my grandfather's watch because of his involvement in some historical moment. Seeing this lets others know that the watch was given to the museum without a return. Otherwise, it was 'sold' to the museum, or it was 'loaned' to the museum.

That is just my thought about it.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
52. I would not use "gift" as a verb when speaking to
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 01:51 PM
Apr 2024

a native German speaker, and would be cautious about even using it as a noun.

Dear_Prudence

(1,130 posts)
58. This door is alarmed
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 04:02 PM
Apr 2024

"He was a gifted musician" uses "gifted" as an adjective, which is fine.
"He was gifted a musician" uses "gifted" as a verb, which is acceptable grammatically, but it is certainly unethical to give people as gifts. There is formal or academic language, and "gifted" sounds nonstandard or informal to my ear. I wouldn't recommend using it in a thesis. I wouldn't recommend that a minister paraphrase, "The three kings gifted the newborn King."
I won't start a new thread, but I really hated the sign on an exit door at work that read "This door is alarmed". I was an editor for one of the departments and I really wanted to deploy my red pen.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
63. Or, attach a note to the alarmed door sign requesting
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 05:56 PM
Apr 2024

a tranquilizer for the door.

In my post #52, I was referring to the fact that, in German, the word "gift" means "poison."

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
62. Per my post, it depends on whether I was speaking to
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 05:49 PM
Apr 2024

a person whose first language is German and whether the musician was ill or dead.

In German, the word gift means "poison."

Jilly_in_VA

(14,135 posts)
53. I would not
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 02:07 PM
Apr 2024

It annoys the heck out of me, although not nearly as much as the current use of "shined" instead of "shone". That one totally burns my biscuits, and even more so the people who insist that it's correct! I also dislike the use of "impacted" as a verb and "impactful".

rsdsharp

(11,887 posts)
54. I wouldn't; I find it jarring. But I also wouldn't use "fellowship" as a verb,
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 02:16 PM
Apr 2024

and the trend of omitting “to be” drives me nuts. “It needs cleaned,” instead of “It needs to be cleaned.” When did that become a thing?

Harker

(17,595 posts)
59. To be or not to be...
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 04:03 PM
Apr 2024

I lived in Western Pennsylvania for a couple years. Many people drop "to be" there.

I rarely heard it in the preceding sixty years spent in suburban Chicago and Colorado.

ailsagirl

(24,287 posts)
60. Per Merriam Webster
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 04:29 PM
Apr 2024
Gift as a verb has a 400-year history of use and means “to present someone with a gift.” Some feel strongly that give is the correct word, but gift-as-a-verb is an acceptable and efficient alternative.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/gift-as-a-verb#:~:text=Yes%2C%20Gift%20is%20a%20Verb&text=Gift%20has%20been%20used%20to,a%20gift%22%20for%20400%20years.

Dulcinea

(9,893 posts)
61. Depends on the context.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 04:30 PM
Apr 2024

I'm in a Facebook Buy Nothing group. In that setting, people say "I'm gifting (whatever they're giving away)" or "This object has been gifted." Not other than that for me, though.

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