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This bird has just discovered that golf balls bounce on concrete and he's absolutely loving it: (Original Post) tblue37 Mar 2024 OP
What type bird is this? Picaro Mar 2024 #1
It's a red-legged seriema, native to Brazil. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #2
Just came on to share this teach1st Mar 2024 #4
That figures. The seriema is the closest living relative of the extinct "terror birds." Ocelot II Mar 2024 #5
Gahh, glad the "terror birds" aren't still around! Wednesdays Mar 2024 #12
The term "terror bird" can apply to several groups that all post-date the KPg extinction. cab67 Mar 2024 #20
They're one of three bird groups that look like that. cab67 Mar 2024 #15
Fascinating...sounds like druidity33 Mar 2024 #17
It was for a thesis. cab67 Mar 2024 #18
I'm not sure I agree. cab67 Mar 2024 #21
Thanks Picaro Mar 2024 #8
aww barbtries Mar 2024 #13
Maybe it is, even if the purpose is to bust open or "kill" the golf ball. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #14
Is he loving it or pissed off that egg doesn't break? dem4decades Mar 2024 #3
Possibly trying to kill it. See #4. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #6
He's trying to chip in for birdie PJMcK Mar 2024 #16
Looks like he's trying to break it to me AKwannabe Mar 2024 #7
I'd like to think he learned how to play "ball" KS Toronado Mar 2024 #9
Can't break that egg open to get at the good stuff inside! LudwigPastorius Mar 2024 #10
Trying to open it. Seagulls did this at my Cape Cod home Grins Mar 2024 #11
He is a better golfer than you know who. Emile Mar 2024 #19
THANK YOU for making my day!!! Martin Eden Mar 2024 #22

Picaro

(2,440 posts)
1. What type bird is this?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:11 PM
Mar 2024

Don't recognize the bird species. Someone out there has to know...

Ocelot II

(131,252 posts)
2. It's a red-legged seriema, native to Brazil.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:20 PM
Mar 2024

And it probably thinks the golf ball is an egg and is trying to crack it open. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seriema

teach1st

(6,028 posts)
4. Just came on to share this
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:22 PM
Mar 2024

The Cute Bird Playing With a Golf Ball Is Actually Trying to Kill It
Slate

What is actually happening here is that the seriemas are trying to murder the balls. It’s possible that the serimeias, which are native to South America, mistook the balls for eggs and were merely trying to break them open, says Kenn Kaufmann, a birder and field editor for Audubon Magazine. But seremias can be more vicious than that. “A number of sources say that seriemas may kill active vertebrate prey (like reptiles or rodents) by slamming the creatures against the ground or throwing them at hard surfaces,” Kaufmann explained to me in an email. The seremias’ behavior is a step beyond most birds’ murder techniques: “Many bird species will bash their prey repeatedly against a perch or against the ground, but throwing seems more risky, since there’s a chance the animal will escape.”


https://slate.com/technology/2019/08/the-cute-birds-playing-with-golf-balls-are-actually-trying-to-kill-them.html

Wednesdays

(23,150 posts)
12. Gahh, glad the "terror birds" aren't still around!
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:04 PM
Mar 2024

When I first read your post, I was thinking they went out in the K-Pg mass extinction 66 million years ago, but after reading up on them, turns out they were still around at the dawn of humans, just 100k years ago!

cab67

(3,848 posts)
20. The term "terror bird" can apply to several groups that all post-date the KPg extinction.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 06:29 PM
Mar 2024

Phorusrhachids are primarily South American, with a brief appearance in North America and, IIRC, a record on islands off the coast of Antarctica.

In North America and Eurasia, we had gastornithids. These were basal anseriforms (related to ducks and their relatives). Isotopic evidence suggests they were mostly eating fruit, but they looked like phorusrhachids and would have been way cooler if they were predators.

There were also the mihirungs in Australasia.

Simultaneously, there were crocodyliforms that independently acquired compressed snouts, serrated teeth, and hoof-like terminal phalanges. These were literally "hoofed crocodiles."

Archosaurs were definitely among the dominant land predators during the Paleogene of the Northern Hemisphere and later in the Southern.

cab67

(3,848 posts)
15. They're one of three bird groups that look like that.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:20 PM
Mar 2024

The other two are roadrunners and African secretary birds.

Fun and useless fact - these three groups helped a student and I debunk one of the lines of reasoning behind claiming that larger and more "robust" tyrannosaurs were female. This was claimed, in part, because females are usually larger than males in birds of prey. But we showed that the degree of difference depends on feeding mode - females are substantially larger in birds that fly after other birds (e.g. goshawks, sharp-shinned hawks, some falcons), larger but not to a substantial degree in birds that subdue prey on the ground but feed in trees (e.g. most other hawks and eagles, owls), the same size as males in birds that feed on the ground (e.g. Old and New World vultures), and smaller than males in birds that hunt on the ground (e.g. secretary birds, seriemas, roadrunners).

This isn't to say larger tyrannosaurs were necessarily male, but the analogy doesn't work - tyrannosaurs weren't flying after their prey.

druidity33

(6,933 posts)
17. Fascinating...sounds like
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:38 PM
Mar 2024

there was a lot of collating data of weight and height and sex of different birds. Was this for a paper? Or a curiosity exercise?

cab67

(3,848 posts)
18. It was for a thesis.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 06:22 PM
Mar 2024

There are a couple of abstracts out there based on her work, but not an actual paper. Still, I'm proud of what my student accomplished.

Some of the data came from an earlier edition of this:

https://www.amazon.com/CRC-Handbook-Avian-Body-Masses/dp/0849342589

cab67

(3,848 posts)
21. I'm not sure I agree.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 06:32 PM
Mar 2024

Lots of birds eat eggs. They don't throw them on the ground - they just drop them.

It's possible the bird is acting out of frustration - why isn't this egg cracking open like it should if I just drop it? - but it could also be enjoying itself.

(Kenn Kaufmann is a highly respected authority, so I say this out of respect.)

AKwannabe

(6,897 posts)
7. Looks like he's trying to break it to me
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:34 PM
Mar 2024

But also making sure to get outta the way!
KornFusing!

Grins

(9,525 posts)
11. Trying to open it. Seagulls did this at my Cape Cod home
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:56 PM
Mar 2024

Find a shellfish on the beach, fly high over a driveway or parking lot - and let go! Hoping it will open.

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