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LuckyCharms

(22,003 posts)
Wed May 29, 2024, 05:07 PM May 2024

I haven't been posting much.

I've had a lot of shit wrong with me in my life, but nothing this bad.

I've been doing a lot of physical work.

Blew my back out while gardening a few weeks ago. Every time this happens, I tell myself that this is the worst it's ever been. I've had several MRIs on my spine, and at that time, it showed various "moderate" damage to several vertebrae.

Whatever the hell this shit is, it's not "moderate".

I'm actually scared to go to the ER, because they will do a CT scan. It literally takes me close to a half an hour to get into bed at night, and I've been using a portable urinal so I don't have to re-live that torture at 300am. I don't think I could lay on a CT table without sedation.

Dug out an old bottle of Oxycodone. Taking just half a pill at a time because they don't make me feel good. I'm also eating muscle relaxants. Neither are doing much good.

Called my provider and asked her to put me on Prednisone. Started it this morning, and it's already making me puke and jump right through my own ass. It's also shooting my blood glucose into the 300's even after doubling my basal insulin dose.

Just spent the last half hour sobbing and screaming in the shower.

YAY!

No need to respond. I just wanted to type this out. I don't think I'll be able to address any responses.

I'm just hoping it goes away. It always does.

Thanks for reading.

Keep up the good fight.

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I haven't been posting much. (Original Post) LuckyCharms May 2024 OP
I'm so sorry you have so much pain! redwitch May 2024 #1
Sending Good Vibes your Way LuckyCharms! I hope you feel better soon! Nictuku May 2024 #2
Well, I am gonna respond anyway. OldBaldy1701E May 2024 #3
💙💙💙💙💙 sheshe2 May 2024 #4
LuckyCharms, I'm sorry you're in so much pain, and I'm sending healing vibes, but PLEASE either go to highplainsdem May 2024 #5
I agree! ShazzieB May 2024 #31
If it's not going away on its own, it's time to call the professionals. Dulcinea May 2024 #58
*sigh* 2naSalit May 2024 #6
Get thee to the ER !!!!!! Karadeniz May 2024 #7
I think so too nt XanaDUer2 May 2024 #9
I'm so sorry this is happening to you XanaDUer2 May 2024 #8
'Blew my back out' may be sciatica. elleng May 2024 #10
I had this Lulu KC May 2024 #46
Good. I had/have it, and posture-related exercises help; elleng May 2024 #51
Healing vibes & wishes. CrispyQ May 2024 #11
I hope it all works out. lpbk2713 May 2024 #12
Wishing you a quick and painless end to your troubles, followed by many wonderful ones! GeoWilliam750 May 2024 #13
Hope this ends fast. Duncanpup May 2024 #14
Sympathy to you. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2024 #15
Pain and reactions to meds are no joke. BoomaofBandM May 2024 #16
Please have your doc send you to the hospital, Joinfortmill May 2024 #17
I'm sorry cate94 May 2024 #18
No one deserves to be in pain. Ever. Dem2theMax May 2024 #19
OMG, Lucky! Niagara May 2024 #20
Damn. As someone who broke his spine twice, I "feel your pain." I hope you have good docs that get you Evolve Dammit May 2024 #21
Sending good vibes. Please call your doctor. Nt BootinUp May 2024 #22
I've had similar experiences Danascot May 2024 #23
So very sorry you are in pain & having adverse effects with meds diva77 May 2024 #24
Oh, God, I'm so sorry, LuckyCharms. Laffy Kat May 2024 #25
I am so sorry mgardener May 2024 #26
what does your provider feel about inversion tables TomDaisy May 2024 #27
Damn onecaliberal May 2024 #28
Sending good vibes to lucky.I've had back surgery Tribetime May 2024 #29
Hope you can be reassured by your provider to go back for treatment Marthe48 May 2024 #30
OMG... I'm so sorry AmBlue May 2024 #32
My daughter is a hospital nurse SCantiGOP May 2024 #33
Please go to the E.R. LoisB May 2024 #34
VERY gentle hugs, LC, and vibes for best possible outcome. Your DU niyad May 2024 #35
I wish you healing and relief from pain SOON! liberalla May 2024 #36
I'm praying and hoping you get through this quickly. summer_in_TX May 2024 #37
Have you ever tried inversion? Emile May 2024 #38
Stop second-guessing the medical pros and get some help! Even if you have to call an ambo. Hermit-The-Prog May 2024 #39
Holding you in my heart. You're not alone. n/t TygrBright May 2024 #40
I could feel you pain and discomfort reading that PatSeg May 2024 #41
Love and light to you moonbeam23 May 2024 #42
Sending you lots of love and healing Goddessartist May 2024 #43
I'm in the consensus - You need the ER. By ambulamce if mecessary. soldierant May 2024 #44
Most helpful instant pain killer for me womanofthehills May 2024 #54
I have back exercises that help me Marthe48 Jun 2024 #64
Sending healing vibes your way MustLoveBeagles May 2024 #45
Go to an ER. You can't manage all of this MOMFUDSKI May 2024 #47
Time to call in the Calvary! 💖 MLAA May 2024 #48
Dear LuckyCharms. Go to doctor and have it examined. They will give you a sedative for the scan. debm55 May 2024 #49
Sending good energy your way. bernieb May 2024 #50
A heating pad covered by a thick towel helps me with that. magicarpet May 2024 #52
Damn that sucks. ❤️ underpants May 2024 #53
chiropractor? pansypoo53219 May 2024 #55
We need an update when you can, Handsome! Niagara May 2024 #56
Oh, Good Luck, LC! Maybe go to ER in the morning if not better. I see this was Weds electric_blue68 May 2024 #57
Half an hour screaming and sobbing in the shower? True Dough Jun 2024 #59
UPDATE LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #60
Thank you for the update, LC! Niagara Jun 2024 #61
"You know your body better than the rest of us" True Dough Jun 2024 #66
I'm not touching this one Niagara Jun 2024 #69
Thank you for the update. Please post again after you hear from your Dr. liberalla Jun 2024 #62
I'm kind of like you womanofthehills Jun 2024 #63
Have you been seen by an Orthopedic Doctor? red dog 1 Jun 2024 #65
Wish you the Best Always... Stuart G Jun 2024 #68
Wishing you the best. BlueKota Jun 2024 #67

highplainsdem

(60,317 posts)
5. LuckyCharms, I'm sorry you're in so much pain, and I'm sending healing vibes, but PLEASE either go to
Wed May 29, 2024, 05:16 PM
May 2024

the ER or at least tell your doctor exactly how much pain you've been in, and for how long. This sounds too serious for you to keep trying to ignore it.

ShazzieB

(22,260 posts)
31. I agree!
Wed May 29, 2024, 07:53 PM
May 2024

LuckyCharms, I hope you see these replies and take the advice of highplainsdem to get medical care asap.

If a CT scan is what is needed and you can't tolerate it for sedation, the by all means, ask for sedation! (Just be sure you have someone to drive you home afterwards.)

Please rake care of yourself and get the help you need,

Dulcinea

(9,731 posts)
58. If it's not going away on its own, it's time to call the professionals.
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:02 PM
May 2024

Good luck. Hope you feel better soon.

XanaDUer2

(15,769 posts)
8. I'm so sorry this is happening to you
Wed May 29, 2024, 05:26 PM
May 2024

Its unfair. Life comes at us too hard sometimes. I hope you get relief soon.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
10. 'Blew my back out' may be sciatica.
Wed May 29, 2024, 05:34 PM
May 2024

(I'm a lawyer, NOT a doctor,' but have had sciatica.)

Sciatica can cause a range of symptoms, including:
Pain
Pain that starts in the lower back or buttock and radiates down one leg. The pain can feel dull, aching, shooting, or burning. It can also feel worse in the leg than in the back.
Sensation changes
Numbness, tingling, or loss of sensation in the leg, foot, buttocks, thigh, or pelvis.

Pressure on the sciatic nerve can cause pain and often numbness down a leg. Self-care measures might help.

Lulu KC

(8,575 posts)
46. I had this
Thu May 30, 2024, 11:22 AM
May 2024

I finally succumbed to facing it, after years of chiropractic, acupuncture, advil, tequila, etc. Got an MRI, took to chiropractor, she said, "I'd find a good surgeon." I did. Problem solved. I had heard so many fearful stories about it, but the next morning when I got out of bed the pain was gone. (New pain during recovery, of course, but quite manageable.) Now I'm back in the garden and no advil required! Tequila only for a celebration, not a lifestyle!

CrispyQ

(40,728 posts)
11. Healing vibes & wishes.
Wed May 29, 2024, 05:35 PM
May 2024


On edit: would a Mueller back brace help? It helped me immensely when I had sciatica.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,482 posts)
15. Sympathy to you.
Wed May 29, 2024, 06:33 PM
May 2024

I've had back issues for years, thanks to a lower back injury some 45 years ago. Nowhere near what you are describing.

Do get it taken care of. And maybe cut way back on gardening?

Joinfortmill

(20,224 posts)
17. Please have your doc send you to the hospital,
Wed May 29, 2024, 06:42 PM
May 2024

Or better yet have someone take you there right now. You may be doing more damage to yourself. I prayed for you. That's what old gal Catholics do.

Dem2theMax

(11,005 posts)
19. No one deserves to be in pain. Ever.
Wed May 29, 2024, 06:50 PM
May 2024

Especially so for the person who makes us laugh all the time. Sincerely hoping the pain will lessen quickly. I have a bad back, so I can relate. But as others have said, go to the ER. What you wrote sounds bad enough to require a visit.

Niagara

(11,596 posts)
20. OMG, Lucky!
Wed May 29, 2024, 06:53 PM
May 2024

I was going to hide under your kitchen table and grab one of your ankles as you were walking past. I'm so glad that I didn't do that!



Please, please, please go to the E.R. or call your provider for further evaluation and treatment.



I also believe that your at the point for daily and absolutely non-strenuous physical therapy my friend.



Anyways....here I am sending you PAWsitive healing energy and vibes!


Evolve Dammit

(21,535 posts)
21. Damn. As someone who broke his spine twice, I "feel your pain." I hope you have good docs that get you
Wed May 29, 2024, 07:03 PM
May 2024

through this. It definately takes the wind out of your sails. And prednisone always made me feel like PMS; irritable is not an adequate word. Invaluable for poison ivy though!
Take care and I hope better days are ahead.
P.S. Get the CT scan or MRI. At least you'll know what is going on and it is painless and non-invasive. Take anti-anxiety meds prior. Docs are understanding in this regard. I'm claustrophobic and you need to knock me out if I go into a tube. Where it is your back, you may not need to. I'm fine if my head is sticking out! The imaging from CT's and MRI's are invaluable.

Danascot

(5,165 posts)
23. I've had similar experiences
Wed May 29, 2024, 07:19 PM
May 2024

In my case it was a couple of herniated discs though your case could be entirely something else. I see a pain management guy who injects the area with steroids a couple times a year. They help a LOT. Surgery has been discussed but I'm not willing to endure the recovery. Besides I'm a terrible patient and my wife would murder me before I got better ... she'd be completely justified too.

Once you're feeling less trashed, you might find PT helpful. They show you exercises and you have to do them every day. Once you're in better shape, start some back exercises to build up the muscles. Strong back muscles can help take stress off your spine, discs and what have you.

diva77

(7,880 posts)
24. So very sorry you are in pain & having adverse effects with meds
Wed May 29, 2024, 07:22 PM
May 2024

It sounds like sciatica - does the pain subside when you are in certain positions? If muscle relaxants aren't working, maybe it's the nerve. Just a layperson's 2 cents. I defer to the experts!

Take care, Lucky! Sending good vibes your way!

Laffy Kat

(16,868 posts)
25. Oh, God, I'm so sorry, LuckyCharms.
Wed May 29, 2024, 07:23 PM
May 2024

Hopefully, the pred will work quickly. You sound worse than miserable.

mgardener

(2,303 posts)
26. I am so sorry
Wed May 29, 2024, 07:28 PM
May 2024

I have a bad, bad back several surgeries etc.

Now it is my shoulder.
If it had not been memorial day weekend, I would have gone to the ER.
I, too, took leftover pain meds.
I'm sure my levels of Tylenol Arthritis is measurable in my blood at this point.
Earliest Dr appt is the 11th.
I may not make it till then.

Marthe48

(22,771 posts)
30. Hope you can be reassured by your provider to go back for treatment
Wed May 29, 2024, 07:49 PM
May 2024

I had a lot of back ailments, but got treatment and therapy from an excellent doctor and PTs. It took some time, but I got over sciatica and then healed from muscle spasms without surgery.

When you get better, maybe you can get one of the large therapy balls and some sessions with PT for how to use it. I got one in '96 and used it every day for years for back muscles, then slacked off.

Please let us know how you do

AmBlue

(3,458 posts)
32. OMG... I'm so sorry
Wed May 29, 2024, 07:54 PM
May 2024

I'm very sad to hear you're dealing with this. Just want to offer some words of commiseration as well as a few suggestions as I am also at the tail end of a 3-month bout of neck and upper back pain from a bulging disc and nerve compression. When I initially went to my PCP he prescribed waaayyyy too strong a steroid for me, and I was literally sick-- trembling, nauseas, and face on fire-- from the steroid. I stopped the steroid with the PCP's blessing, then after a break my orthopedist started me up on a much lower dose that I could tolerate, which did help. Steroid can be nasty, but dosed properly it can be a godsend.

Other things I've used with some success: Curamin (turmeric supplement), infrared light therapy wrap (https://a.co/d/fJQBb9j), topical NSAIDs including Aspercreme and Voltaren, plus a good, soft ice pack and heating pad alternated. And physical therapy (of course).

In any case, here's hoping you're on the road to recovery very soon. But DO listen to all the good advice here and get to the doctor PRONTO.

SCantiGOP

(14,668 posts)
33. My daughter is a hospital nurse
Wed May 29, 2024, 08:00 PM
May 2024

She said many people are sedated for CAT scans and MRIs, many just for claustrophobia.
I hope you go and get some relief.

niyad

(129,872 posts)
35. VERY gentle hugs, LC, and vibes for best possible outcome. Your DU
Wed May 29, 2024, 08:28 PM
May 2024

family is all here for you.

liberalla

(10,872 posts)
36. I wish you healing and relief from pain SOON!
Wed May 29, 2024, 08:48 PM
May 2024

I'm so sorry you're having this problem with your back and hope you find help quickly!

summer_in_TX

(4,054 posts)
37. I'm praying and hoping you get through this quickly.
Thu May 30, 2024, 12:34 AM
May 2024

No response needed or expected. You get well.

🙏🏽

Emile

(40,855 posts)
38. Have you ever tried inversion?
Thu May 30, 2024, 05:52 AM
May 2024

I have a lot of lower back problems, sciatica pain, with a history of two back surgeries. Prednisone helps me, but I know taking steroids is not good for you. I have found using my inversion table, along with rest for a few days does more good than anything. Not a cure, but it helps.

moonbeam23

(409 posts)
42. Love and light to you
Thu May 30, 2024, 09:18 AM
May 2024

Hope they find you a painkiller that works without making you feel worse.

Goddessartist

(2,176 posts)
43. Sending you lots of love and healing
Thu May 30, 2024, 09:29 AM
May 2024

I finally gave in and got opiates for chronic pain...I would urge you to go to the emergency room, but I see that's been suggested. Hoping the pain subsides and you can get your life back.

soldierant

(9,297 posts)
44. I'm in the consensus - You need the ER. By ambulamce if mecessary.
Thu May 30, 2024, 10:54 AM
May 2024

My two go-tos for pain at home are my TENS unit and ice. I'm not opposed to pills, but no pill starts working immediately. TENS and ice do.

My TENS units are from Techcare. Yes, I have more than one; sometimes I need it before trying to get to another room. I use the smallest and cheapest of their units, and they are good enough to relieve (and over a period of an hour or two actually remove) my back pain even when it has spiked down my leg as far as the knee.

If the TENS hasn't made noticeable improvement in 5-10 minutes I go to ice. I know some people use frozen peas, but I do better with strap-ons because they stay put.

Neither is any substitute of a hospial if you need one, and it really sounds like you do.

womanofthehills

(10,725 posts)
54. Most helpful instant pain killer for me
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:03 AM
May 2024

Is powdered raspberry aspirin with caffeine. It comes in a packet you shake into your mouth - then follow up with water.

3 months ago, I went flying when the handlebars came off my dolly and I did in my back good. I had some 10 yr old oxys which helped the first week.

Stewart McGill is the most famous back injury go to guy in the US - He is famous for his “McGill 3” back muscle strengthening exercises to help with back pain. I do them everyday- takes 12 minutes. Took 3 months & my back pain is finally 95% gone but my legs are now bothering me. Powered aspirin with caffeine stops my leg pain for hours.

I feel for you -

I do these on a massage table so I don’t need to be on floor.

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Marthe48

(22,771 posts)
64. I have back exercises that help me
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 07:05 PM
Jun 2024

But I think it's a good idea to get a diagnosis and get exercises for the specific ailment. A stretch good for one ailment might be bad for something different.

MustLoveBeagles

(14,928 posts)
45. Sending healing vibes your way
Thu May 30, 2024, 11:19 AM
May 2024



I hope your reading these responses. I'll join the other posters and advise you seek medical attention asap.

I hope you feel better soon.
 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
47. Go to an ER. You can't manage all of this
Thu May 30, 2024, 11:35 AM
May 2024

on your own. Being diabetic myself I have to avoid prednisone and many other drugs. You are over your head and they will help you at a hospital. Take care

MLAA

(19,671 posts)
48. Time to call in the Calvary! 💖
Thu May 30, 2024, 12:34 PM
May 2024

I’d call an ambulance as they can transport you safely and I expect with less pain to the ER. Sending you hugs and love.

debm55

(56,595 posts)
49. Dear LuckyCharms. Go to doctor and have it examined. They will give you a sedative for the scan.
Thu May 30, 2024, 12:46 PM
May 2024

magicarpet

(18,457 posts)
52. A heating pad covered by a thick towel helps me with that.
Thu May 30, 2024, 02:24 PM
May 2024

Best not to fall asleep with a heating pad so you don't over do it. Mine is on a timer.

Good luck healing.

Pace yourself during strenuous exercise. Stretch exercise to limber up a bit before hand, like start a few days before, similar to a marathon runner, losen up tight unworked muscles. This will help avoid strain.

electric_blue68

(26,101 posts)
57. Oh, Good Luck, LC! Maybe go to ER in the morning if not better. I see this was Weds
Fri May 31, 2024, 07:43 PM
May 2024

Hopefully we'll see an update. Good Luck!

True Dough

(25,959 posts)
59. Half an hour screaming and sobbing in the shower?
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 06:29 AM
Jun 2024

You must have looked like a prune! As if things aren't bad enough.




LuckyCharms, you magnificent bastard, find some professional help. Things sound pretty awful in your world right now, but as you said, you always get better. It just might be necessary to get a medical intervention this time.

Be well!

LuckyCharms

(22,003 posts)
60. UPDATE
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 10:14 AM
Jun 2024

I'm still suffering.

Wrote my primary care yesterday, but it was late in the day, and I didn't get a response.

What usually happens is I deal with this until I can't any longer, and then I go to the ER. They usually do a CT scan, and throw pain pills at me, which I am hesitant to take...that's why I have a surplus of them at home. Then, the pain just resolves after a month or so.

I thank everyone for their kind responses. I swear that you people show more concern than my friends in real life.

Niagara

(11,596 posts)
61. Thank you for the update, LC!
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 09:00 AM
Jun 2024

I'm happy to hear that you have contacted your primary. This is the 1st step.


You know your body better than the rest of us but we like you. No, I take that back. We love you. You're one of the many that makes The Lounge a fun and inviting place to hang out.


Here's to a quick recovery for you!

True Dough

(25,959 posts)
66. "You know your body better than the rest of us"
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 07:32 PM
Jun 2024

I'm sure Lucky has receive MANY offers from others to get to know his body better than he does! Someone will win the lottery someday!



womanofthehills

(10,725 posts)
63. I'm kind of like you
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 06:34 PM
Jun 2024

All my friends were screaming for me to go to ER - but it’s an hr away & I didn’t think I could ride in car and wait forever at urgent care so I went online & read when to go to ER because it’s an emergency. With none of these symptoms it’s usually safe to wait and see your dr.

1 Numbness or pins & needles in groin or glutes
2 incontinence

3 sudden leg weakness

4 occurs with a fever



red dog 1

(32,574 posts)
65. Have you been seen by an Orthopedic Doctor?
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 07:27 PM
Jun 2024

Your primary care physician could refer you to an orthopedic doctor, who would know much more about back issues than she does.

Also, I know this might sound crazy, but have you tried medical marijuana? I've heard it can actually relieve pain in some cases.
(You should definitely check with your PCP before trying it)

Anyway, I hope you're out of pain soon.

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