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I figured this would be a fun topic for anyone interested in this stuff, especially for those who want to share their findings and stuff.
Not too long ago, I learned a quite a bit about my family tree....or at least, on my mother's side. I always knew a little about them, like how my great-grandma was born to a Norwegian immigrant mother(the father I know nothing about, though) in South Dakota, and that my great-grandfather died of tuberculosis. What I didn't know, though, is that not only was my great-grandfather actually born in Paragould, Arkansas, of all places, but that branches of my family go all the way back to the Colonial era....just as my dad's did. Here's another couple of tasty tidbits for you(particularly for Westerners): I am indirectly related to the guy who gave his name to Bozeman, Montana, and one of the old Mormon pioneer families (Here's one of them: http://www.geni.com/people/Elizabeth-Taylor/6000000003240438294) .
I can certainly reliably trace my maternal ancestry all the way back to these two people:
http://records.ancestry.com/Sarah_Patrick_records.ashx?pid=16362353
http://records.ancestry.com/Yearby_Land_records.ashx?pid=18080001
Mrs. Patrick in Mecklenburg, Virginia, and Mr. Land, in, get this: South Carolina, of all places.
Do you have anything you'd like to share, or just interested in the topic? In any case, I'd be fascinated to hear from you all.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Given that it states that he was only nine at the time, this might be the same man.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)My family lines have a huge presence on Long Island in the 1600s. One of my ancestors bought 9000 acres from the first people, and that included Montauk Point and either Southampton or Easthampton (I would have to go look to see which and am too lazy).
If only, if only some of that land had passed to me; how happy I would be!
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)He was one of the first seven, but not one of those jailed by the Dutch, when the venturers squatted on Dutch land claims.
As I understand it, the venture on the east end of the island is an example of a successful implementation of plan B.
frogmarch
(12,251 posts)have been able to trace your roots so far back, and I like knowing that some of your ancestors lived in South Dakota, my old stomping grounds.
My ancestors John and Elizabeth Cogswell and their children, including my last Cogswell ancestor, then-three-year-old Sarah, emigrated from England to New England in 1635 on the ship Angel Gabriel. It was the only of the colonial ships to sink. It was destroyed in a hurricane off Pemaquid Point, Maine. Several passengers went down with the ship, but the Cogswells made it to shore and survived. They lost livestock and many of their belongings. The trunk of Johns pictured below later washed ashore.
The Cogswells settled in Massachusetts on a piece of land granted to John, now known as Cogswells Grant.
John and Elizabeth Cogswell were also ancestors of John Adams and John Quincy Adams, as well as of Diana, Princess of Wales - which is why I was offended when I wasnt invited to my cousin Prince Williams wedding. lol


grasswire
(50,130 posts)In Plymouth?
I so, so, so wish I had a fragment of belongings from any of my colonial ancestors. It is pretty cool to go to the Howland House in Plymouth and see some relics from the second generation. When I was there I picked up some leaves from some very old trees and pressed them. But I have NOTHING like that trunk. So cool!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Sadly, I don't know all that much about my Dad's family, other than that my grand-dad was born in Elmira in upstate New York, and my grandma in Nebraska; and that my grand-dad's family heritage stretches back to northern Pa. all the way back to the early 1800s.
frogmarch
(12,251 posts)are a nice memento. I don't have anything like that, because I've never visited any of the places my colonial ancestors lived. If I ever do, I will remember to pick up some leaves. I like that idea a lot.
The Cogswell trunk is on display at the Colonial Pemaquid State Historic Site in New Harbor, Maine. If youd like to read more about the trunk:
http://bangordailynews.com/2011/06/23/living/trunk-that-survived-1635-shipwreck-on-display-at-colonial-pemaquid/
The Cogswell familys house in Wiltshire, England, is still standing, and Cogswells still own and live in it. It was built by John Cogswells father, Edward, in 1591. I have photos of it, but Id love to see in person someday. I'd pick up some leaves and press them, like you did at the Howland House.
I hope you someday find belongings or other keepsakes pertaining to your ancestors. I found a family Bible from the early 1800s belonging to another of my ancestors on Ebay once, but someone else got it. I keep checking Ebay, though, in case the buyer decides to sell it. Id first found it by typing surnames of my ancestors into the Ebay search engine. Leave no stone unturned, I always say!
Good luck to you in finding ancestral keepsakes!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)One of the Bozemans, who settled in North Carolina & Georgia originally. Don't have any online records, but of memory serves, he may have been the father of this guy: http://records.ancestry.com/Matthew_Bozeman_records.ashx?pid=43161960
frogmarch
(12,251 posts)find out for sure, and also find more information about father and son. If you Google their names, you might come across a genealogy forum where the Bozeman family tree is being discussed. I've done that with some of the surnames in my tree and have hit pay dirt several times.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)One of my ancestors was Sarah Allen, who was kidnapped after the Deerfield (Mass) massacre and brought to Canada, where she married a Frenchman, had 12 or 13 kids, and lived out her life as a French Canadian woman.
Also, it appears some of my ancestors came from the St. Malo area of France, and were, quite possibly, privateers, which I suppose is a nice word for pirates.
I'm descended from Marin Boucher, who was a close associate of Samuel de Champlain, and was deeded Champlain's clothing in his will.
And one of my grandfather's uncles was killed in the Baltimore Tunnel mine explosion of 1919. My grandfather was on Utah beach on D-day and came home to work in the Hershey chocolate factory.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:33 AM - Edit history (1)
It is a beautiful, beautiful village, with a very lovely old Inn. I spent the most charming July 4th there one year; lots of interesting activities. I don't think I could ever spend the night there, though -- to me the history of the place is supremely sad.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)I live less than 40 miles away.
I was there years ago, long before I found out about Sarah Allen, and would like to go back some day to see the graves of some of the others from whom I'm descended.
It's a beautiful area. I spent several summers in Western Mass in the 90s and one of the weekly highlights was the antiques auction in S. Deerfield. Good times, good times.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)out this way again, there are a couple more great places for antiques and stuff...
Brimfield has a couple of town-wide tag sales during the summer, and South Hadley has a great giant yard sale during the Columbus day weekend, along a stretch of Route 116.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I've been to the weekend flea market there; and sold a few times there myself.
Yeah, I also used to go to the auction at Amherst, but that has moved.
mia
(8,480 posts)My earliest ancestor was a French Huguenot who arrived on Staten Island in 1662. He arrived via Holland and was a carpenter.
http://deepsouthernroots.familytreeguide.com/getperson.php?personID=I94855&tree=T1&PHPSESSID=811977a8b769840a4cae22f7adc317bf
Thanks for the thread!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Also, it seems that I have some distant relations to the guy who had that town in Montana named after him:
http://records.ancestry.com/John_Merin_Bozeman_records.ashx?pid=43158011
Going back, thru William, Amos, and Samuel, you can see his great-great-grandpa Samuel, Jr.(born 1743), who was also the father of Jacob Bozeman, Sarah Patrick's second husband, who was born in Bladen County, N.C., in 1781:
http://records.ancestry.com/Jacob_Bozeman_records.ashx?pid=43160533
So yeah, I have North Carolina connections, too, on top of the Virginian.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)She traced it back to the 17th century and curiously our "homestead" at the time was about 12 miles from where I live (in what's now the area around TMI south of Harrisburg, PA. She also found two ancestors who were full Susquehannan.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Can't remember the exact counties though. I think it was on an old genealogy research paper my mom got in '96.
Speaking of PA, my dad's family apparently has lived in northern PA for about 200 years, though I don't have any information to back it all up at the moment.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Apparently, my great-great-grandpa James was a real can-do guy: he opened his own bottling company and an outdoor theater, while living in Carmi, IL, back in the day.
Pretty cool.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I figured I'd look into the other side of the family as well. So far, this is what I've got for my grandmother's family:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/powell/messages/14499.html
Sadly, though, I haven't been able to make much progress so far......still, though, at least someone was kind enough to provide that little bit of info....maybe I'll get lucky again, who knows?
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:41 AM - Edit history (1)
It looks like I may have just been able to track down a good part of my dad's family; If my findings are correct, and I believe they probably are, I've got more stories to tell:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0007.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0006.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0005.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0004.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0003.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0002.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0001.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0011.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0010.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0009.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0008.html
Among the things I've found are :
1. I have several Revolutionary War veterans on my father's side of the family, including one who was injured while fighting for the Loyalists under John Burgoyne(anyone remember For Want of a Nail, btw?
).
2. There are several indirect ancestors of mine who emigrated to Canada after the war(Ontario in particular!), including Richard Springer, who may have built the first Methodist Church in Canada.
3. I do, in fact, have German ancestors on the paternal side of the family.
4. Amazingly, my family tree seems to have branched in some very interesting directions recently: my great aunt Eleanor seems to have married a guy the name of John Maldonado way back(could he be Hispanic, perhaps?). I also have people of Italian, East Asian, and possibly even Jewish(there's a guy named Mike Firestone mentioned. I don't know of course, but it's possible!) extraction amongst my distant relatives, and that's just my paternal grandmother's family, and the ones I was able to track down.
This just keeps getting more and more interesting by the day.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I had never realized the numbers of families who left or were forced to leave until I have been working on my Canadian lines on ancestry.com, and reading background materials.
One of my ancestors refused to sign an oath of loyalty and was at risk of being hanged for treason, summarily. His wife nailed him into a wooden crate with only a jug of milk and had him carted away and across the river, and he went on to Canada. His family followed. They became the first white settlers in a remote part of Ontario, and lived with Indians for a while. Behind, in upstate New York, they left behind much worldly wealth.
Another family member who fled with his family to Canada suffered in the first winters there. At one point, he had to leave the cabin to try to hunt some food. His wife and five children waited, and waited for his return. After ten days, the food ran out. The genealogy book says that the wife earnestly prayed that night for sustenance. In the morning, she found a rabbit, neatly killed by the cat, on the doorsill. And every morning for six days more, the same thing. Even if this story is not totally true, the telling of it is interesting.
Keep in mind that these settlers who fled to Canada sacrificed mightily to remain loyal to their convictions. Canada was not as civilized and settled as Americans were at the same time. It's a very very interesting drama on all sides.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I not only have Patriots and Loyalists in my family, but both sides from the Civil War, too, I think.
pink-o
(4,056 posts)They lived in a Shtetl in Lithuiana, until one Pogram too many persuaded them to re-assess their geographic options. I searched for the records when I visited Ellis, but our name is pretty common and the info I have is murky. Like all the 20th century immigrants, my family just wanted to assimilate and bury their old country roots.
Mom's people are from Skipton, Yorkshire and they were Landed Gentry and well-heeled politicians. My Brit Great grandfather had a promising start as a Victorian merchant, owning an Apothocary shop and dispensing all sorts of tinctures and potions. But he started consuming too much of his own product--specifically opium--lost his business, standing, and wealth, and died in Debtor's Prison. My grandfather knew he either needed to immigrate or get stuck in the coal mines, so he ran away to Canada and made a nice living working for the railroad.
So as I like to say about my ancestory: It's Charles Dickens meets "Fiddler on the Roof".
revolution breeze
(879 posts)by the Ursaline nuns following an attack on Natchez and brought her to New Orleans in 1760. She was raised by them, then married to a prominent businessman. My "Cajun" ancestors were not from Canada, but from France. My great-great-grandfather was Spanish, not French as I was led to believe and when he passed away, his 16 year old daughter was "in a family way". Because of his position in New Orleans, she was able to marry in the St. Louis Cathedral after a "respectful" time of mourning the loss of her father which was two weeks. And my great-grandmother who taught "religion" at a private girls school was a divorcee! I love finding the skeletons in others' closets
handmade34
(24,017 posts)the more interest I have... this is a fun way to share a bit of my family history...
my grandmother's brother's grandson (second cousin-- has started this brewery and has a ancestral series and it describes part of my family)
http://www.hillfarmstead.com/ancestral-series/
*****Ephraim - the most popular brew

Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)My ancestors were Quakers who came over with William Penn's people.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)you might be spamming here....but, you did give several links and that is good thing.
Why wouldn't we all be interested in our individual HISTORY....It give us a sense of being or not being with those who came before us. It's very cool.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I've just gotten started, and I've already found plenty of stuff to look over.
trof
(54,274 posts)We share a great grandfather.
A descendent of the great grandfather married my great grandfather.
In ALABAMA!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I'm not related to any of the Founders myself as far as I know, but I have been able to dig up some pretty interesting connections.
My maternal great-great-grandmother(grandpa's side), was Nancy Elizabeth (or "Lizzie"
Holderby, a scion of one of the founding families of Carmi, Ill. On top of that, as I may have stated earlier, one of my ancestors in that area was a witness to the New Madrid earthquake of 1811:
http://www.showme.net/~fkeller/quake/lib/yearbyland.htm
trof
(54,274 posts)Don't remember which one.
When we visit Monticello we get the 'special tour'.
UP stairs!
AND he gets the gate key to the cemetery.
We can go in and look at the tombstones.
Oh...and he and his family can be buried there.
WooHoo!
benld74
(10,285 posts)back in France to 1717. Other possible 'relatives' befroe that time as well. But the family 'secret' I discovered was my great-great grandfather married a woman of Spanish descent. Thereby making me 1/4 Spanish, 1/4 French and 1/2 Italian(mothers side).
The other 'secret'? My great-grandfather was married 3 times, with the family in France larger than the one here.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Look for the name, 'Margaret Oliver'-
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Donna-J-Mccourtney/GENE7-0002.html
Born in Paris, 1735. Awesome.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)Susannah North Martin, was hanged as a witch July 19, 1692.
"In 1669, William Sargent accused Susannah of witchcraft. George Martin sued Sargent for slander against Susannah and a higher court dismissed the witchcraft charges. George Martin died in 1686 and Susannah remained in Amesbury. In 1692, at the age of 71, she was accused of being a witch by several residents of Salem Village (now the Town of Danvers), which is located about 25 miles south of Amesbury. Susannah was arrested and tried for witchcraft. None of the accused were represented by council and during her trial, she defended herself defiantly. She was found guilty and hanged on July 19, 1692, along with four other women."
www.findagrave.com
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I've been able to track down some people going back to New York, if you'd like to check out the links in my post on the Springer family. I even have an ancestor from the state of Delaware, which surprised me. And I never expected to see any Canadian citizens on my dad's side of the family, I always thought they were in my mother's......
Fla Dem
(27,633 posts)My 10 times great grandfather William Towne was born in Yarmouth, England 3/15/1598. He married Joanna Blessing in 1620. She was born in 1599 in Great Yarmouth, England. They came to America and settled in Salem about 1639. They had 8 children, six born in England 2 born in Salem. Joanna was accused of witchcraft, but never convicted. Three of their daughters (Rebecca, Mary and Sarah) were accused of witchcraft and convicted. Arthur Miller's play, "The Crucible" was based on their trial. Eventually on July 19, 1692 Rebecca was hanged. Mary Esty was hanged on September 22, 1692. Sarah was not hanged. The movie, "Three Sovereigns for Sarah" tells about the travesty and suffering the three women and the Towne family had to endure. Rebecca's homestead is a historical site.
It took me about 5 years to trace everything back and get verification. Although at times it was very frustating it was also very exciting each time a new detail or clue was uncovered.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)If so, she was one of the women who was hanged with my Susannah North Martin on July 19, 1692.
Fla Dem
(27,633 posts)HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)in case you don't:
"In May, 1693, all of the remaining accused that had been arrested were released, but only after their families had paid jail and court costs. In 1709, a petition was submitted requesting reversal of the convictions of 22 indiviuals. In October, 1711, this petition was approved by the General Court and in December, the Governor authorized monetary compensation to these individuals or their heirs."
Did your Rebecca's family sign the petition and receive compensation?
My Susannah's family did not: "Susannah Martin's family did not sign this petition and she, along with others, were not included in this resolution. In 1957, an Act was passed pronouncing the innocence of "One Ann Pudeator and certain other persons." It was not until 2001 that an Act was passed amending the 1957 wording to include the names, "Ann Pudeator, Bridget Bishop, Susannah Martin, Alice Parker, Margaret Scott and Wilmot Redd.."
Merrill's "History of Amesbury and Merrimac"
"The Devil in Massachusetts" pages 105-117, 157, 170-75, 216-7
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/brief-salem.html. In the comments section was this: "I am as innocent as a child unborn." If you read the transcript at http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/ASA_NUR.HTM, you'll see (fourth full paragraph) that Rebecca Towne Nurse said those exact words during an examination before her trial. She was innocent, as it turns out, but she was deaf and couldn't hear some of the questions during trial. At the time, silence meant guilt. She was originally found not guilty but the judge ordered the jury to deliberate again and that time she was found guilty and hanged. She was 71, a mother, grandmother, great-grandmother and great-great-grandmother, pious and loving."
I just love this stuff -- I've spent nearly 40 years researching my family and Susannah North Martin is one of the most interesting stories I've found.
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)I started it with another DUer back in 2005...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1156
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)I'm so pleased to see it still going strong after seven years...
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I found him in the 1940 census and the first names of his sisters seem to match. Their mother, from what I know now, was a sister of my great-grandfather, Ralph Powell.
Fridays Child
(23,998 posts)I was able to trace back through twelve generations to a Mrs. Anne Beamsley who, along with her husband, William Beamsley, arrived at Salem, in 1630, as a member of the Winthrop Fleet. I also learned that my great great great great great grandmother's given name was Mehitable. I just love that name!
By the way, my maternal grandfather was born in Davis, Turner County, South Dakota, in 1893. I know a lot about his mother's family but I've never found any solid leads on his father. All I really know about him is that he was an itinerant railroad worker who eventually abandoned the family.
Where in South Dakota, and when, was your great grandmother born?
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Her name was Bess Train.....that's about all I know, though.
GreenPartyVoter
(73,393 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)They came here from Germany/Switzerland.
We just confirmed recently that at least one of them fought in the Revolutionary War in Pennsylvania (I saw his grave this summer for the first time). He got a chunk of land from Benjamin Franklin for his service (I've seen the deed and it has Franklin's signature on it). Many men from that side of the family went on to fight in the Civil War on the Union side (one was killed on the last day of the Siege of Richmond) and my grandfather served in the US Army in Iran during WWII and later in Korea.
My grandmother was a Rosy the Riveter during WWII in Baltimore (that's hard to believe) and her grandfather, who came here from Ireland, served in the Union Army druing the Civil War, but that's about all I can piece together about her lineage.
My other grandfather (step-grandfather, actually, don't know much about my biological father or his side of the family) was serving in Pearl Harbor when the Japanese attacked it in '41. He was part Native American and was from Arkansas, but I'm not sure of much more beyond that.
I wish I had a lot of time I could devote to researching all these strands.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Apparently, one of my great-aunts was a Rosie, too....though I forget which one.
And I think I may have had some relatives in WWI as well; I'll have to do some more research on that, too.
TuxedoKat
(3,843 posts)the 2004 election I learned by chance that I was a cousin to both George Bush and John Kerry. Kind of funny but not so common as probably half the country is as well. Would love to find a connection to Pres. Obama too and other presidents, but haven't checked into that much. Have at least one Revolutionary War ancestor and one Civil War ancestor, and traced some lines back to the 1200's.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)We share a common ancestor, Mayflower Pilgrim John Howland and his wife Elizabeth Tilley.
davsand
(13,446 posts)The story on Anton (some records call him Anthony) Halberstadt (the merc) was that he was the third son, and was in the military when the Prince leased his army out to the Brits. He was one of the 1000 or so captured at Trenton when Washington did the whole "Crossing the Delaware" maneuver. He stayed in America after the war and married a woman from NJ, and He died in 1831 in Franklin Co, IN. There's a chapter of the Sons Of the American Revolution named for him in Ft Wayne Indiana:
http://halberstadt.inssar.org/
"Our chapter is named after Anthony Halberstadt who was conscripted by the German army to come and fight in the Revolutionary War on the side of the British as a Hessian mercenary. He was captured by George Washingtons troops in the battle of Trenton . He became a teamster for a Continental Army officer. He married an English woman named Miller and after the war came by flatboat down the Ohio River to Franklin County , Indiana in 1806. There he settled and was probably the first Coroner of Franklin Co. It is believed he is buried in the graveyard of the Cedarville Baptist Church near Brookville, IN , although there is no stone. He was the Patriot Ancestor of Jim Halberstadt, one of our chapter founders."
Interesting stuff!
Laura
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Still looking into that one ancestor of mine who fought with Burgoyne. I'll post update if I can find more issues.