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sky_masterson

(589 posts)
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:02 AM Jun 2024

Angus the misdiagnosed Cancer Kitty Update.

First off, thank you all for the Previous love. I couldn't believe how many recs it got.

Okay, I take Angus to my regular vet Monday.
The vet mentioned that when she saw him last the fluid and inflammation was so bad that she couldn't hear his heart.
She could easily this time (Easier if he wasn't growling at her).
He gained his weight back 18.5 lbs He is a big boy.
I told her my saga and the Medications the cat was on and she mentioned that you aren't supposed to give cats with Fungal or Viral Infections Predisnolone as it ramps up the infection.
Holy Hell!
I googled it when I got home.
"Prednisone/prednisolone should not be used in pets that are allergic to it, or with systemic fungal infections (unless it is used to treat Addison's disease), viral infections, ulcers, tuberculosis, or Cushing's disease"
from https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/prednisoloneprednisone

But Predisnolone is what you would give a Cancer kitty. The Person who read the CAT scan diagnosed it as lung cancer.

So, with this bit of knowledge I thought back to the 3-4 weeks he spent sleeping in the Air chamber house I made him with piped in oxygen via an air concentrator, It has a door he can easily enter and leave at will. So I could tell how he was feeling by the time he spent in it.
And thought that Maybe the Steroids were killing him during that time,
and the Anti Fungal I was Giving him possibly fought back a raging infection from the steroids and saved him?
If that has any bases in reality then my asking the Emergency Vet two months ago about the Medicine to treat a possible Fungal Infection that she mentioned since he is dying anyway that he would probably be dead by now.
( All assumption and theory)
Also, one of the side effects of Predisnolone in cats is panting/rapid breathing.
So when his breath was in the high 30 range it may have been a mixture of the infection and the Steroids doing it and it returned to a normal range after his steroids wore off that made it seem miraculous.
Angus never seemed to have any cancer symptoms besides the Plural Effusion breathing thing.They never found a cancer cell, His wounds healed,no wasting away,no blood in his stool that I saw ,no lumps. So I have a hard time believing he ever had Cancer.
I am going to pay close attention to him for the next few months and make sure nothing weird is up.
He has almost certainly some lung damage from all of this, but he did feel well enough to paw me in the face to get me up at 4:30 this morning, annoying lil @$$hole whom I apparently love dearly.

Happy 4th and thanks again for the love.




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Angus the misdiagnosed Cancer Kitty Update. (Original Post) sky_masterson Jun 2024 OP
Veterinary pathologist here Dr. Shepper Jun 2024 #1
She took a biopsy of a black section of the lung sky_masterson Jun 2024 #2
What did the biopsy show? Dr. Shepper Jun 2024 #3
There was inflamation sky_masterson Jun 2024 #4
I am happy he is recovering Dr. Shepper Jun 2024 #5
What happy news! 3catwoman3 Jun 2024 #6

Dr. Shepper

(3,236 posts)
1. Veterinary pathologist here
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 11:00 AM
Jun 2024

Was there a biopsy or cytology performed? Radiologist would recommend that.

sky_masterson

(589 posts)
2. She took a biopsy of a black section of the lung
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 11:12 AM
Jun 2024

didn't come back as cancerous, did a test of his urine for Fungal infections, that was negative.
I read that Fungal Infections are hard to diagnose and the test are unreliable.

Oh, they gave him 2 months to live two months ago.


sky_masterson

(589 posts)
4. There was inflamation
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 11:24 AM
Jun 2024

His lungs were apparently pressing on a duct that lubricates the lungs and filling the membrane with fluid.
I don't know if you saw my first thread , but the CAT scan showed a Black lung and a lung with black fingers crawling up it.
The Vet who saw them thought it looked Weird. She never saw a pattern like that. It wasn't her who diagnosed it as cancer.
It was the expert who read the scan

Dr. Shepper

(3,236 posts)
5. I am happy he is recovering
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 12:24 PM
Jun 2024

Making a diagnosis takes several experts sometimes, especially in tough cases that share a similar pattern.

Sending positive energy he is back to his old self soon.

3catwoman3

(29,256 posts)
6. What happy news!
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 01:53 PM
Jun 2024

Just like Angus, human beings with fungal infections should not take steroids.

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